SFbrkmn wrote:I'll take night work over day work anytime. You can see block signals much, much better, no form B's to mess with and during summer, the weather is pleasant
rogruth wrote:Could it be so material is available to on-line businesses when they open in the morning? Or to make connections with other railroads?
futuremodal wrote: gabe wrote: (If you know the reference in the subject line, I like you) If it's Manfred Mann's version, that's okay, but if it's that overrated formerly gap-toothed wanna-be political *activist* being referenced, forget about it! It seems to me that a lot of regional railroads have a preference for running at night. I just learned that one of the reasons I never catch a train on the TPW is they run most of their freights at night. The Iowa Interstate runs at night. And, Ed just informed me that the CFE tends to run at night. Why do they do this? Also, why do they paint their engines?It seems to me that night running could increase the chance of accidents.Gabe Used to be the local regional ran at night when owned by the Class I's, but when it went Shortline, they started running daytime. None of the other shortlines I know of run at night. The only real regional in these parts is MRL, and I believe they run their own trains during the day to allow BNSF to run it's run-throughs at night.
gabe wrote: (If you know the reference in the subject line, I like you)
(If you know the reference in the subject line, I like you)
If it's Manfred Mann's version, that's okay, but if it's that overrated formerly gap-toothed wanna-be political *activist* being referenced, forget about it!
It seems to me that a lot of regional railroads have a preference for running at night. I just learned that one of the reasons I never catch a train on the TPW is they run most of their freights at night. The Iowa Interstate runs at night. And, Ed just informed me that the CFE tends to run at night. Why do they do this? Also, why do they paint their engines?It seems to me that night running could increase the chance of accidents.Gabe
Used to be the local regional ran at night when owned by the Class I's, but when it went Shortline, they started running daytime. None of the other shortlines I know of run at night. The only real regional in these parts is MRL, and I believe they run their own trains during the day to allow BNSF to run it's run-throughs at night.
Actully....... one shortline runs at night where i live. The Rochester Southern railroad runs in the afternoon until 12am-1:50am.
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CSSHEGEWISCH wrote: zardoz wrote: rvos1979 wrote: Last I heard, Metra wouldn't let them run during the day because of track space, but rumblings of expansion of the Fox Lake-Rondout line could change that. WSOR was also thinking of trying a different way into Chicago, via Beloit, Rockford, Davis Jct, and the Metra Milwaukee west line. I wonder why the WSOR does not seek trackage rights on the UP from Janesville to Chicago? Even if the trackage rights fees were reasonable, WSOR would still have to work around Metra Northwest Line suburban trains once they reached Harvard.
zardoz wrote: rvos1979 wrote: Last I heard, Metra wouldn't let them run during the day because of track space, but rumblings of expansion of the Fox Lake-Rondout line could change that. WSOR was also thinking of trying a different way into Chicago, via Beloit, Rockford, Davis Jct, and the Metra Milwaukee west line. I wonder why the WSOR does not seek trackage rights on the UP from Janesville to Chicago?
rvos1979 wrote: Last I heard, Metra wouldn't let them run during the day because of track space, but rumblings of expansion of the Fox Lake-Rondout line could change that. WSOR was also thinking of trying a different way into Chicago, via Beloit, Rockford, Davis Jct, and the Metra Milwaukee west line.
Last I heard, Metra wouldn't let them run during the day because of track space, but rumblings of expansion of the Fox Lake-Rondout line could change that. WSOR was also thinking of trying a different way into Chicago, via Beloit, Rockford, Davis Jct, and the Metra Milwaukee west line.
I wonder why the WSOR does not seek trackage rights on the UP from Janesville to Chicago?
Even if the trackage rights fees were reasonable, WSOR would still have to work around Metra Northwest Line suburban trains once they reached Harvard.
There is also the little deal with the CNW ATS/ATC, WSOR would have to either equip it's engines with ATS/ATC or have an ex-CNW unit leading.
I don't think Metra would have too many problems on the UP line, it is two and three tracks from Harvard south.
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Actually, I was wondering about this very same question w/ particular reference to regional RR's like Boston and Maine in the NE. I visited ME once for about a week, and in all the time I was there, I never even saw a hint of a daytime freight (it was around Brunswick, near that Naval Iron Works complex nr Bath, which made it even more puzzling to me). Although jsoderq is probably right about the amt of traffic being lower (hence the potential for fewer accidents), I'd guess that graveyard RRing might have more exposure to more serious kinds of accidents, such as extreme drunkenness, or groggy drivers on the virge of falling asleep. Especially given the general tendency of RR yards to not be in very safe neighborhoods, could there also be more security issues if more people working at night were to face potentially dangerous situations? The two RR's I was especially curious about on this question were the Boston and Maine (especially w/in very large cities) and the Florida East Coast. I haven't seen a whole lot of FEC pictures, and was just curious if this happened to be b/c most of the RR's movements took place during hours that it was difficult to photograph....
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I remember when we went to Monroe Wis, down the line to Freeport Ill and East on the CCP. Can't do that anymore .
We run alot of our trains at night simply because thats when the customer needs the stuff to move . As was stated before , the train schedules are customized for the needs of the shippers . Most shippers want the cars picked up at the close of buisness and have cars spotted for the crew in the morning .
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nanaimo73 wrote:WSOR had to run at night into Chicago to avoid commuter trains. The Providence and Worcester runs on the NEC with Amtrak, probably mostly at night.
When I worked for the WSOR, we could only fit into the windows Metra had between 10pm and 3am, thus, the yard crew in Janesville didn't get the train until about 7am, and outbound trains didn't start until 2pm. Madison was about the same, but Horicon had a night yard job and the outbound trains started in the morning.
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It would also depend where you are on a regional's system. Iowa Interstate doesn't just run at night. There are spots where traffic is busier in the daylight, other spots it will be after dark.
Jeff
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