I can almost guarantee that the GP7s and GP9s would still be around. The WC rebuilt those things also, along with chopping the noses on the ex AC ones. The 1501-1506 blcok had some very nice engines, the crews loved them. Much better than CNs...
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Soo 6604 wrote: RRFoose wrote:Right before CN bought WC, they had leased some CR SD80MACs. Was WC testing and planning on buying new power, or were these just temporary leases? As much as they loved the 45's, new power would eventually have to show up (look at MRL) - although SD40-2's and second-hand SD50/60's may have been the next step.They were testing DP power up on the ore lines in Michigan, kinda nice to see Conrail Blue mixed in with the WC MaroonPaul
RRFoose wrote:Right before CN bought WC, they had leased some CR SD80MACs. Was WC testing and planning on buying new power, or were these just temporary leases? As much as they loved the 45's, new power would eventually have to show up (look at MRL) - although SD40-2's and second-hand SD50/60's may have been the next step.
They were testing DP power up on the ore lines in Michigan, kinda nice to see Conrail Blue mixed in with the WC Maroon
Paul
If they wanted distributed power, wouldn't that mean they'd have to buy new locos with the technology in them though?
I'm the sure the 45's would still be around - but they're getting fewer and farther between to keep buying up. They may have very well been rebuilt to fake SD40-2's in due time.
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the Soo & WC will be lived on forever ,
even though the soo wasnt around in my time but i think cp isnt that stupid as CN is, look on the CP all the old soo locomotives & i always see soo cars too. i have to get pics of the soo & cp locomotives yet, now CN they took the WC name out of every thing, cars, locomotives etc. if you go around stevens point u only see 1 or 2 signs for bo tresspassing that sat wc on it otherwise it all says CN now. even in my town CN put signs up, their is this bridge that goes over the river & the wc let people fish off of it since they only came through twice a week & now cn put a sign up & it says no tresspassing, vilolators will be prossecuted. the wheel thats at the shops in fdl they covered up the WC name on it w/ something else & the signs on the shops & all that say CN now. the yard tower awning still says WC but the sign on the buildign says CN. i think if the wc was still its own railroad it would be alot different. & if wc bought the soo when cp tried selling it they would be a big railroad a yard in the twin cities & then if they did buy the line CN would of never came in but wc wanted to pay off the debt from buying the lake states which is reasonable not to get into anymore debt. ya CN took out alot of the old wc lines too like past shawano the line dont exist anymore, the line from saukville to kiel was sold to WSOR but WSOR is a good line & partnered w/ the wc so they could run from horicon to janesville. does CN still do the milwaukee trun at duplainville? i cant find that out yet?
Lord Atmo wrote:any examples of what they did? all i see is them buying out WC to get a clear route to Chicago and scrapping SD45s because it's power they dont need.I HATE THEM!
I hate them too. CN stinks. Look at there web site at the Wisconsin Central Story. They said they wanted to partner with them. And CN would do the same thing as WC did. Noooooo way. WC use to switch out here every day. CN only does it once or twice a week.
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Andrew Falconer wrote: In the Trains Newswire there is an article and a photo of the fully restored Soo Line Wide-Vision Caboose #1. The photo also features the fully restored SOO GP30 #700. The people at the Lake Superior Railway Museum have done excellent work. Andrew
In the Trains Newswire there is an article and a photo of the fully restored Soo Line Wide-Vision Caboose #1. The photo also features the fully restored SOO GP30 #700. The people at the Lake Superior Railway Museum have done excellent work.
Also, would you mind sending me the article and photo so I can post it in our shop?
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Really? We made it into there? AWESOME!! Our curator has been working on the caboose for months, and I will be riding it next Friday. We took out our FP7, first one ever owned by SOO, our GP30, which saw service on WC, and our caboose over to Superior using a CP crew. If anyone is ever interested, come down and ask for Max, as I would be happy to give you a tour of them, as well as some of our other equipment. ( I am hardly there during winter, so come during the summer)
Also WC related, ( and I am working here tomorow) The LSRM owns the former WC Engineer training simulator, which CN donated. It features the cab of WC SD45 #7528 and you can run the Neenah Subdivision, Minneapolis Subdivision, and two Delaware and Hudson routes. It was an actual video shot on the line in the 1970's.
Here is a shot of the cab, and from the window you can see the large projector screen:
Lord Atmo wrote:i love how you automatically assume i own a scanner. they cost some hundred dollars that i dont have. so i go by luck. thanks for the advice, guys, but i'm metting up with my friend chris (gluefinger on these forums) and he's gonna take me to where the best fanning spots are.BUTLER!
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The CNW connection at Grand Ave. in Waukesha is gone. Carroll College put up tennis courts where the tracks went. I remember one time when the CNW had 20-some cars to interchage with the WC. They get permission, and pulled out onto the WC main. They cleared the switch, and the WC SW1500 tied on, and dragged the string north towards the yard. WC 2006 was on the Burlington job a week or two ago, and WC 6004 has been on the Spur 105 rock job.Sit at Duplainville, might even see the WSOR go by.On the scanner, make sure you program in the EOT frequency. The little chirps will let you know if a train is close, even if nobody is talking on the radio.
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Lord Atmo wrote:i'm heading out to Milwaukee this weekend and the interstate goes alongside a CP main for quite a while. so i hope to see a lot of SOO there. then i also go alongside a UP main. it's a very nice ride. lots of trains.i know i kid myself, but i hope to see WC too. i'm sorry for the stupid question, but did WC ever have track in or near Milwaukee?
You've got a decent chance of seeing both the WC and the UP in the Milwaukee area. Occasionally a SOO locomotive will end up on a CP train, and there are usually at least two or three SOO units hanging around Muskego yard in Milwaukee, just east of Miller Park (where the Brewers play baseball). The WC also puts in the occasional appearance on the track between Chicago and Fon du Lac that Zardo mentioned. The best spot to see both of these at once is Duplainville, if you can convince the parents to spend at least an hour or two here, you are bound to see a train or two. And if you are really lucky, you might catch the occasional SOO or WC units (especially on locals).
On the UP you aren't going to catch a whole lot. Just a few mainifest trains, and the roadrailer along with the occasional local. Not much there though, but if you have a scanner and listen for traffic you might catch something.
Noah
My Lord,
The only track the recent incarnation of the WC had was through Waukesha (just west of Milwaukee). The CN operates a transfer into the Milwaukee CP yard, accessing it from Duplainville.
btw, what UP line do you know of that has "lots" of trains. The busiest UP line in Wisconsin is the Milwaukee sub from Proviso to Bain (and busy is definitely a relative term here).
Many, many moons ago the CNW used the former Madison sub from Belton to Waukesha as a connection for freight destined for the Soo (WC). I believe (but am not quite sure) that the connection is no longer in place.
The water towers on CN lines in the U.S.A. are kept with the original road logos based on what I have seen in Battle Creek, MI. There the former GT building logos are all replaced with CN now, that is most likely because it was easier. The Water Tower change at Stevens Point could be considered to be too difficult. It also could be considered a way to keep people from getting too mad at the CN management.
The Milwaukee Road freight cars all went to the Soo Line. Not too many were painted with the SOO markings in the 1985-1992 time period. Some of the MILW Boxcars were in such good shape that repainting them was not required. Now the MILW Auto Racks on Trailer Train Flats were repainted in 1988 as a part of regular maintenance. The SOO Auto Racks got a distinct Bright Red color scheme that was rarely used on other freight cars. The few bright red SOO Boxcars were CP Rail Repaints after 1992.
Andrew Falconer wrote: Stevens Point, Wisconsin was orginally owned by the Wisconsin Central, then Soo Line, then back to the Wisconsin Central. Stevens Point was a important car building and locomotive repair shop. There is still a Steam Locomotive on display. Joel Hodgson was born in Stevens Point, Wisconsin. Then he moved to Minneapolis, Minnesota to create Mystery Science Theater 3000, the heart of the Soo Line. I like the Soo Line and Mystery Science Theater 3000, but I did not know that there was much of connection to be squeezed out. Andrew
Stevens Point, Wisconsin was orginally owned by the Wisconsin Central, then Soo Line, then back to the Wisconsin Central. Stevens Point was a important car building and locomotive repair shop. There is still a Steam Locomotive on display.
Joel Hodgson was born in Stevens Point, Wisconsin. Then he moved to Minneapolis, Minnesota to create Mystery Science Theater 3000, the heart of the Soo Line.
I like the Soo Line and Mystery Science Theater 3000, but I did not know that there was much of connection to be squeezed out.
It is hard to say which is better - trains or MST3K. Both are great hobbies, but I laugh a whole lot more at MST3K.
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