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A tank car in between two locos?
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 1, 2003 12:18 AM
I was browsing the internet earlier and found this picture:
http://www.trainpix.com/BN/ACTION/7266XL.JPG
Could somebody tell me why is there a tank car in between the two locos?[?][?][?][:)]
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A tank car in between two locos?
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 1, 2003 12:18 AM
I was browsing the internet earlier and found this picture:
http://www.trainpix.com/BN/ACTION/7266XL.JPG
Could somebody tell me why is there a tank car in between the two locos?[?][?][?][:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 1, 2003 12:42 AM
Some of the runs were long and there was no place to refuel (so and I don't know if BN was the first to build diesel fuel tankers ) they carried their extra fuel with them , I have seen the tankers and they have special hookups to feed fuel to the engine fuel tanks , as fuel efficiency of the diesels increased they fell out of favor for a while, but then the railroads found they could buy large quantities of fuel at the lowest price even if it was not needed for that run so they came back in favor. I know BN and BNSF and CSX use them, there may be others but I have not seen them. I run one between my CSX locos looks good, one day when my painting ability gets better they will look more like the prototype. I have several photos of BN fuel tankers. I used Atlas beer can tankers to make mine looks better on an N scale layout, but I have seen them in O scale. Hope this answers you question.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 1, 2003 12:42 AM
Some of the runs were long and there was no place to refuel (so and I don't know if BN was the first to build diesel fuel tankers ) they carried their extra fuel with them , I have seen the tankers and they have special hookups to feed fuel to the engine fuel tanks , as fuel efficiency of the diesels increased they fell out of favor for a while, but then the railroads found they could buy large quantities of fuel at the lowest price even if it was not needed for that run so they came back in favor. I know BN and BNSF and CSX use them, there may be others but I have not seen them. I run one between my CSX locos looks good, one day when my painting ability gets better they will look more like the prototype. I have several photos of BN fuel tankers. I used Atlas beer can tankers to make mine looks better on an N scale layout, but I have seen them in O scale. Hope this answers you question.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 1, 2003 12:45 AM
extra fuel tank for the locomotives..

here's a good page about it..

http://www.mtnwestrail.com/wyoming/bnft.htm

have a good one!

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 1, 2003 12:45 AM
extra fuel tank for the locomotives..

here's a good page about it..

http://www.mtnwestrail.com/wyoming/bnft.htm

have a good one!

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 1, 2003 1:35 AM
That's what i thought it was.
Thanks guys[:)][:)][:)][:D][:D][:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 1, 2003 1:35 AM
That's what i thought it was.
Thanks guys[:)][:)][:)][:D][:D][:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 1, 2003 1:47 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Alaskaman

I was browsing the internet earlier and found this picture:
http://www.trainpix.com/BN/ACTION/7266XL.JPG
Could somebody tell me why is there a tank car in between the two locos?[?][?][?][:)]


It didn't take long to get an answer, did it? [:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 1, 2003 1:47 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Alaskaman

I was browsing the internet earlier and found this picture:
http://www.trainpix.com/BN/ACTION/7266XL.JPG
Could somebody tell me why is there a tank car in between the two locos?[?][?][?][:)]


It didn't take long to get an answer, did it? [:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 1, 2003 1:50 AM
The last engine looks like it doesn't have a cab. Is that correct or is it just me? I know BN used to run cabless units, I have seen them. [^]
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 1, 2003 1:50 AM
The last engine looks like it doesn't have a cab. Is that correct or is it just me? I know BN used to run cabless units, I have seen them. [^]
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 1, 2003 2:02 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

The last engine looks like it doesn't have a cab. Is that correct or is it just me? I know BN used to run cabless units, I have seen them. [^]

It's like you're reading my mind![:)]
It looks like a dash-9 version with conventional (is that what you call it?) cab. If you look closer, you might see some outlines, altough, i'm not sure....
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 1, 2003 2:02 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

The last engine looks like it doesn't have a cab. Is that correct or is it just me? I know BN used to run cabless units, I have seen them. [^]

It's like you're reading my mind![:)]
It looks like a dash-9 version with conventional (is that what you call it?) cab. If you look closer, you might see some outlines, altough, i'm not sure....
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 1, 2003 2:19 AM
As far as I know dash 9s have the wide cab. I might be wrong, but, those may be dash 7s or dash 8s. I have never seen a GE drone until that pic. Looks like a B-30 maybe...........Those pics look a little early to be dash 9s
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 1, 2003 2:19 AM
As far as I know dash 9s have the wide cab. I might be wrong, but, those may be dash 7s or dash 8s. I have never seen a GE drone until that pic. Looks like a B-30 maybe...........Those pics look a little early to be dash 9s
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Posted by dmoore74 on Monday, September 1, 2003 8:19 AM
BN did have some B30-7A's, the A suffix indicating a cabless unit. I think they have now disposed of all of them. Some of them have ended up on the Providence and Worcester Railroad.[8D]
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Posted by dmoore74 on Monday, September 1, 2003 8:19 AM
BN did have some B30-7A's, the A suffix indicating a cabless unit. I think they have now disposed of all of them. Some of them have ended up on the Providence and Worcester Railroad.[8D]
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Posted by edblysard on Monday, September 1, 2003 9:13 AM
Hi Jim,
dmoore74 is correct, its a B30-7A, a cabless B30.
We used to see them down here a lot, they dissappeared about 4 years ago.
BN had a pretty good sized fleet of them.
Stay Frosty,
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Posted by edblysard on Monday, September 1, 2003 9:13 AM
Hi Jim,
dmoore74 is correct, its a B30-7A, a cabless B30.
We used to see them down here a lot, they dissappeared about 4 years ago.
BN had a pretty good sized fleet of them.
Stay Frosty,
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 1, 2003 10:54 AM
The cabless engines were called calf's, and by some RR's slugs, lower cost to build and they provided extra power and which was controled by the engineer in the cab, when they are mued they are called "Cow and Calf," the loco with the cab was called a cow.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 1, 2003 10:54 AM
The cabless engines were called calf's, and by some RR's slugs, lower cost to build and they provided extra power and which was controled by the engineer in the cab, when they are mued they are called "Cow and Calf," the loco with the cab was called a cow.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 1, 2003 11:29 AM
I had heard B.N. pulled there B-30's out of service. (The cabless one's) What happend to them?? From what I understand they were still in pretty good shape.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 1, 2003 11:29 AM
I had heard B.N. pulled there B-30's out of service. (The cabless one's) What happend to them?? From what I understand they were still in pretty good shape.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 1, 2003 11:52 AM
quote]Originally posted by TARGUBRIGHT

I had heard B.N. pulled there B-30's out of service. (The cabless one's) What happend to them?? From what I understand they were still in pretty good shape.
TIM A


Most of them were returned to the leasing companies and subsequently sold and/or scrapped. As mentioned above a couple went to the P&W. I believe some others were being used as "French Fryers" being conveted to Biodiesel and used as stationary electrical generators in CA. A few were on the NYS&W for a short time as well.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 1, 2003 11:52 AM
quote]Originally posted by TARGUBRIGHT

I had heard B.N. pulled there B-30's out of service. (The cabless one's) What happend to them?? From what I understand they were still in pretty good shape.
TIM A


Most of them were returned to the leasing companies and subsequently sold and/or scrapped. As mentioned above a couple went to the P&W. I believe some others were being used as "French Fryers" being conveted to Biodiesel and used as stationary electrical generators in CA. A few were on the NYS&W for a short time as well.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 1, 2003 12:53 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by beeline

The cabless engines were called calf's, and by some RR's slugs, lower cost to build and they provided extra power and which was controled by the engineer in the cab, when they are mued they are called "Cow and Calf," the loco with the cab was called a cow.
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I may be wrong, but, I thought that Cow and Calf, and Slug and slug mother referred to hump set power. That's what we call them on our hump. Usually have 3 sets running each shift.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 1, 2003 12:53 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by beeline

The cabless engines were called calf's, and by some RR's slugs, lower cost to build and they provided extra power and which was controled by the engineer in the cab, when they are mued they are called "Cow and Calf," the loco with the cab was called a cow.
Bee Line

I may be wrong, but, I thought that Cow and Calf, and Slug and slug mother referred to hump set power. That's what we call them on our hump. Usually have 3 sets running each shift.
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Posted by zardoz on Monday, September 1, 2003 1:42 PM
Did the fuel tender supply only the locomotives adjacent to it, or could it supply the entire consist?
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Posted by zardoz on Monday, September 1, 2003 1:42 PM
Did the fuel tender supply only the locomotives adjacent to it, or could it supply the entire consist?

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