The ALCo diesel locomotive thread

[espeefoamer]

QUOTE: Originally posted by AltonFan

QUOTE: Originally posted by Limitedclear
Besides the FAs and RS-1,2,3es what Alco's did the GM &O run?
LC

According to a roster originally published in Railroad Magazine, and published in Wayner's book compiling these rosters, the GM&O owned no RS-3s.

QUOTE: I said this:
IIRC, except for the DL-109, all passenger power was EMD.

According to this roster, GM&O also owned some PA-1s and PA-2s. I stand corrected.

The roster made no mention of the DL-109, but other sources indicate that GM&O did once have one.

One of the GM&O PAs was the unit that pulled the original Freedom Train in 1947.There was a plaque on the side stating this. I saw the plaque at the Casey Jones museum in 1967.

[Anonymous]

What ever happend to KEVINS ALCO QUESTION???

HMMM???

[Anonymous]

What ever happend to KEVINS ALCO QUESTION???

HMMM???

[Anonymous]

MLW's M-640 (a one of a kind loco) was rated at 4000 horse power, this brute was powered with an 18cyl. 251F. Unfortunately, on the first run the 18-251F failed on the road. A crankshaft failure I believe. Just imagine what railroading today would be like today if the M-640 had been very sucessful, MLW/Bombardier might still be a viable player in the modern locomotive market.

[Anonymous]

MLW's M-640 (a one of a kind loco) was rated at 4000 horse power, this brute was powered with an 18cyl. 251F. Unfortunately, on the first run the 18-251F failed on the road. A crankshaft failure I believe. Just imagine what railroading today would be like today if the M-640 had been very sucessful, MLW/Bombardier might still be a viable player in the modern locomotive market.

[Anonymous]

I was wondering where CPR's M640 ran 4744 what a powerful engine what was the horsepower on that thing

[Anonymous]

I was wondering where CPR's M640 ran 4744 what a powerful engine what was the horsepower on that thing

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by baberuth73

Check out the latest issue of The Railroad Press magazine for a listing of active Alco units. The entire issue is dedicated to Alco plus every issue has an Alco news column.

Sounds like a "must have" to me. [;)]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by baberuth73

Check out the latest issue of The Railroad Press magazine for a listing of active Alco units. The entire issue is dedicated to Alco plus every issue has an Alco news column.

Sounds like a "must have" to me. [;)]

[Anonymous]

Check out the latest issue of The Railroad Press magazine for a listing of active Alco units. The entire issue is dedicated to Alco plus every issue has an Alco news column.

[Anonymous]

Check out the latest issue of The Railroad Press magazine for a listing of active Alco units. The entire issue is dedicated to Alco plus every issue has an Alco news column.

[M636C]

OK, Mark, I was just showing off! I hadn't seen either of those operator's trains out on the road, but the ARG GM class are more recent in my area. There were the usual other trains, and it was a good day! We don't often hear 251s or 567Cs on the main line, and I think I was better off with the Alcos, because they may not last as long as the EMDs, even though their fuel efficiency will be better.

Peter

[M636C]

OK, Mark, I was just showing off! I hadn't seen either of those operator's trains out on the road, but the ARG GM class are more recent in my area. There were the usual other trains, and it was a good day! We don't often hear 251s or 567Cs on the main line, and I think I was better off with the Alcos, because they may not last as long as the EMDs, even though their fuel efficiency will be better.

Peter

[Anonymous]

Peter! That's like asking, "Am I better off with the 16-oz. New York Strip or the 16 oz. rock lobster tail.?"

[Anonymous]

Peter! That's like asking, "Am I better off with the 16-oz. New York Strip or the 16 oz. rock lobster tail.?"

[M636C]

On Saturday, I drove 60 miles to watch a grain train expected to be hauled by two Clyde/EMD A16Cs (Basically F9s with SD9 trucks). It didn't appear, but instead I saw a container train hauled by two Goodwin/Alcos, DL-500C 4472 (A cab unit like a C-C FPA-4, but with a flat cab at the back - which was leading) and DL-500G JL-405 (a double end boxcab). Both of these have 12-251C engines, and I caught them on a 1.5% grade. 4472 had been last painted in the early 1980s, and although it was clean, the paint was fairly sad.

So, guys, was I better off having seen Alcos rather than EMDs?

Peter

[M636C]

On Saturday, I drove 60 miles to watch a grain train expected to be hauled by two Clyde/EMD A16Cs (Basically F9s with SD9 trucks). It didn't appear, but instead I saw a container train hauled by two Goodwin/Alcos, DL-500C 4472 (A cab unit like a C-C FPA-4, but with a flat cab at the back - which was leading) and DL-500G JL-405 (a double end boxcab). Both of these have 12-251C engines, and I caught them on a 1.5% grade. 4472 had been last painted in the early 1980s, and although it was clean, the paint was fairly sad.

So, guys, was I better off having seen Alcos rather than EMDs?

Peter

[AlcoRS11Nut]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by AlcoRS11Nut

Does anyone know where someone can get a list of all operating ALCo's are? (My life gole is to see at least 1 model type in existance)

Pentrex has a 3 series tape set called, "Those Incredible Alcos". They have tried to show one of every type of Alco ever made. Some Alco locos were produced in such few numbers that none are still around. The set is worth while and can be purchased through the Pentrex.com site.


Also, as I told Dougal, you can email Andy I. He sorta keeps up on this type of stuff. He is also a trains.com forum member. Just scroll up and find his email addy and his website is also listed.

Thanks jhhtrainsplanes

I saw the the video's, but I don't know when they were filmed so I thought the railroads might have made some changes to their rosters, and the ALCo's might be gone.[V] I'll try to email Andy I. sometime.

[AlcoRS11Nut]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by AlcoRS11Nut

Does anyone know where someone can get a list of all operating ALCo's are? (My life gole is to see at least 1 model type in existance)

Pentrex has a 3 series tape set called, "Those Incredible Alcos". They have tried to show one of every type of Alco ever made. Some Alco locos were produced in such few numbers that none are still around. The set is worth while and can be purchased through the Pentrex.com site.


Also, as I told Dougal, you can email Andy I. He sorta keeps up on this type of stuff. He is also a trains.com forum member. Just scroll up and find his email addy and his website is also listed.

Thanks jhhtrainsplanes

I saw the the video's, but I don't know when they were filmed so I thought the railroads might have made some changes to their rosters, and the ALCo's might be gone.[V] I'll try to email Andy I. sometime.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by AlcoRS11Nut

Does anyone know where someone can get a list of all operating ALCo's are? (My life gole is to see at least 1 model type in existance)

Pentrex has a 3 series tape set called, "Those Incredible Alcos". They have tried to show one of every type of Alco ever made. Some Alco locos were produced in such few numbers that none are still around. The set is worth while and can be purchased through the Pentrex.com site.


Also, as I told Dougal, you can email Andy I. He sorta keeps up on this type of stuff. He is also a trains.com forum member. Just scroll up and find his email addy and his website is also listed.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by AlcoRS11Nut

Does anyone know where someone can get a list of all operating ALCo's are? (My life gole is to see at least 1 model type in existance)

Pentrex has a 3 series tape set called, "Those Incredible Alcos". They have tried to show one of every type of Alco ever made. Some Alco locos were produced in such few numbers that none are still around. The set is worth while and can be purchased through the Pentrex.com site.


Also, as I told Dougal, you can email Andy I. He sorta keeps up on this type of stuff. He is also a trains.com forum member. Just scroll up and find his email addy and his website is also listed.

[AlcoRS11Nut]

Does anyone know where someone can get a list of all operating ALCo's are? (My life gole is to see at least 1 model type in existance)

[AlcoRS11Nut]

Does anyone know where someone can get a list of all operating ALCo's are? (My life gole is to see at least 1 model type in existance)

[Anonymous]

OK ALCO fans, answer this, Truthfully...

QUOTE: taken from the EMD vs. GE thread

OK So i'll stop saying ALCO in a bad way...

What was their best locomotive? and what was their worst locomotive...?.

Where did the PA fall in?

[Anonymous]

OK ALCO fans, answer this, Truthfully...

QUOTE: taken from the EMD vs. GE thread

OK So i'll stop saying ALCO in a bad way...

What was their best locomotive? and what was their worst locomotive...?.

Where did the PA fall in?

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Limitedclear

Oh and one more, why does GVT collect so damn many Alcos?

LC

They get the job done. [}:)]

L C, do you hate Alcos? It seems like you dog them out, not as much as Kevin though.

NS had Alcos in heavy haul service. But you probally know this. They did the job and NS liked them. I don't know your age, or if you ran Alcos. You did ask, "Why they leaked so much fluid?" So I have an idea you have been around some. If you have ran them, please give us your honest opinion of them? Did they pull the train as well as other locos of the same time frame? Did they ride as well as the other locos? Did they receive regular required maintaince? How did they stack up against other locos? Please give us your honest opinion. [;)]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Limitedclear

Oh and one more, why does GVT collect so damn many Alcos?

LC

They get the job done. [}:)]

L C, do you hate Alcos? It seems like you dog them out, not as much as Kevin though.

NS had Alcos in heavy haul service. But you probally know this. They did the job and NS liked them. I don't know your age, or if you ran Alcos. You did ask, "Why they leaked so much fluid?" So I have an idea you have been around some. If you have ran them, please give us your honest opinion of them? Did they pull the train as well as other locos of the same time frame? Did they ride as well as the other locos? Did they receive regular required maintaince? How did they stack up against other locos? Please give us your honest opinion. [;)]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by CSSHEGEWISCH

Andy Inserra is currently a college student who has wasted much of his youth creating and maintaining his website: http://www.tamr.org/Andy_Inserra/

It would appear that India and Australia are Alco heaven. The locomotives may be smaller than what Americans are used to, but 251 engines, side-mounted radiators with shutters, and tri-mount trucks are good enough for me.

I heard of him from the TAMR that's how I even regonized the name. He also has an ALCO column in a magazine I get.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by CSSHEGEWISCH

Andy Inserra is currently a college student who has wasted much of his youth creating and maintaining his website: http://www.tamr.org/Andy_Inserra/

It would appear that India and Australia are Alco heaven. The locomotives may be smaller than what Americans are used to, but 251 engines, side-mounted radiators with shutters, and tri-mount trucks are good enough for me.

I heard of him from the TAMR that's how I even regonized the name. He also has an ALCO column in a magazine I get.

[Anonymous]

I havea Question.. and its a good one

why is everyone answeing questions using the single word "because"...?