The ALCo diesel locomotive thread

[Anonymous]

Here is another question for you. Many times you see a loco with additional letters and/or numbers behind the model type. Instead of Alco RS 2 you might see RS 2u and instead of RS 3 you might see RS 3mk. Other examples of this are C425M, C425M/AC, and RS 2r. Is there a "standard" that defines what each letter stands for. I do know what some of these mean. But I figure if I don't know them all then other people might not either. So I ask not only for myself but for all who might wonder but don't know. [8D]

[Anonymous]

Here is another question for you. Many times you see a loco with additional letters and/or numbers behind the model type. Instead of Alco RS 2 you might see RS 2u and instead of RS 3 you might see RS 3mk. Other examples of this are C425M, C425M/AC, and RS 2r. Is there a "standard" that defines what each letter stands for. I do know what some of these mean. But I figure if I don't know them all then other people might not either. So I ask not only for myself but for all who might wonder but don't know. [8D]

[Anonymous]

I'm curious about a specific Alco. On http://nt1.foothill.net/rumorweb (a very excellent site that gives information on every abandoned/derelict piece of railroad equipment in the US, well worth a visit) there is a listing for a NH RS-3 that's abandoned in Walpole, Mass. There's no picture and the only informantion given is "Directly across the diamond from the station, in a gully in the woods, behind the Framington to Franklin wye." Does anyone know what engine this is specifically, it's history or why it's abandoned out in the woods? I'm intrigued by this loco.

[Anonymous]

I'm curious about a specific Alco. On http://nt1.foothill.net/rumorweb (a very excellent site that gives information on every abandoned/derelict piece of railroad equipment in the US, well worth a visit) there is a listing for a NH RS-3 that's abandoned in Walpole, Mass. There's no picture and the only informantion given is "Directly across the diamond from the station, in a gully in the woods, behind the Framington to Franklin wye." Does anyone know what engine this is specifically, it's history or why it's abandoned out in the woods? I'm intrigued by this loco.

[Anonymous]

Besides the FAs and RS-1,2,3es what Alco's did the GM &O run?
LC

[Anonymous]

Besides the FAs and RS-1,2,3es what Alco's did the GM &O run?
LC

[theonejp]

Wait a minute railpac!
I have seen pictures of the NTS&W 430's on the a web site but have not seen them in person. I have either seen in person or on the same web site a picture of a unit in red paint not NYS&W yellow and black. Were they also suqie-q units?

[theonejp]

Wait a minute railpac!
I have seen pictures of the NTS&W 430's on the a web site but have not seen them in person. I have either seen in person or on the same web site a picture of a unit in red paint not NYS&W yellow and black. Were they also suqie-q units?

[foamer4000]

What about the C-630 & C-628?

[foamer4000]

What about the C-630 & C-628?

[Anonymous]

jhhtrainsplanes-

r or R - Rebuilt
u - upgraded
mk- rebuilt by Morrison-Knudson
C425M/AC- rebuilt by M/K-then upgraded with alternating current technology.

limitedclear-

I believe the GM&O also rostered DL-109's.

buckeye2-

Are you refering to the space shuttle crawler? I saw that special on Monster Machines on Discovery Channel. Awesome rig![8D]

[Anonymous]

jhhtrainsplanes-

r or R - Rebuilt
u - upgraded
mk- rebuilt by Morrison-Knudson
C425M/AC- rebuilt by M/K-then upgraded with alternating current technology.

limitedclear-

I believe the GM&O also rostered DL-109's.

buckeye2-

Are you refering to the space shuttle crawler? I saw that special on Monster Machines on Discovery Channel. Awesome rig![8D]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Limitedclear

Besides the FAs and RS-1,2,3es what Alco's did the GM &O run?
LC

Hi LC, how's Hobo Joe. [:D]

Don't forget ACF built Alco powered GM & N's Rebels.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Limitedclear

Besides the FAs and RS-1,2,3es what Alco's did the GM &O run?
LC

Hi LC, how's Hobo Joe. [:D]

Don't forget ACF built Alco powered GM & N's Rebels.

[AltonFan]

QUOTE: Besides the FAs and RS-1,2,3es what Alco's did the GM &O run?
LC

I believe GM&O also had a few S-1 and/or S-2 switchers, although they preferred RS-1s for switching. IIRC, except for the DL-109, all passenger power was EMD. Also, when the GM&O finally acquired EMD road switchers, they rode on AAR trucks from traded ALCo units.

I'll have to check the roster when i get home.

[AltonFan]

QUOTE: Besides the FAs and RS-1,2,3es what Alco's did the GM &O run?
LC

I believe GM&O also had a few S-1 and/or S-2 switchers, although they preferred RS-1s for switching. IIRC, except for the DL-109, all passenger power was EMD. Also, when the GM&O finally acquired EMD road switchers, they rode on AAR trucks from traded ALCo units.

I'll have to check the roster when i get home.

[Anonymous]

Hello everybody,
sorry I haven't been keeping up, I haven't had access to a computer for several days, and after this, several more. [:(] Unfortunately I do not have the time to answer any questions right now, so if anyone could kinda fill in for a while, that would be great! [:D] Hope to answer some more questions soon [;)].

[Anonymous]

Hello everybody,
sorry I haven't been keeping up, I haven't had access to a computer for several days, and after this, several more. [:(] Unfortunately I do not have the time to answer any questions right now, so if anyone could kinda fill in for a while, that would be great! [:D] Hope to answer some more questions soon [;)].

[Grinandbearit]

ALCO PAs
Two of the 4 (originally Santa FE , then D&H) from Mexico were purchased, one by the Smithsonian and the other by Doyle McCormack ( of 4449 fame). Apparently Doyle even has a pair of trucks similar to the originals for his. They came from an Erie built.

[Grinandbearit]

ALCO PAs
Two of the 4 (originally Santa FE , then D&H) from Mexico were purchased, one by the Smithsonian and the other by Doyle McCormack ( of 4449 fame). Apparently Doyle even has a pair of trucks similar to the originals for his. They came from an Erie built.

[AltonFan]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Limitedclear
Besides the FAs and RS-1,2,3es what Alco's did the GM &O run?
LC

According to a roster originally published in Railroad Magazine, and published in Wayner's book compiling these rosters, the GM&O owned no RS-3s.

QUOTE: I said this:
IIRC, except for the DL-109, all passenger power was EMD.

According to this roster, GM&O also owned some PA-1s and PA-2s. I stand corrected.

The roster made no mention of the DL-109, but other sources indicate that GM&O did once have one.

[AltonFan]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Limitedclear
Besides the FAs and RS-1,2,3es what Alco's did the GM &O run?
LC

According to a roster originally published in Railroad Magazine, and published in Wayner's book compiling these rosters, the GM&O owned no RS-3s.

QUOTE: I said this:
IIRC, except for the DL-109, all passenger power was EMD.

According to this roster, GM&O also owned some PA-1s and PA-2s. I stand corrected.

The roster made no mention of the DL-109, but other sources indicate that GM&O did once have one.

[theonejp]

To Railpac
Sorry for doubting you; you were correct!
After looking the rochester NY railfan page I saw that LA&L had two 430's from M&E already on the roster. I must have seen one on the way through to Lakeville to go for some maintenance.
According to that page one of the two is now working on the WNYP, a LA&L offshoot.

[theonejp]

To Railpac
Sorry for doubting you; you were correct!
After looking the rochester NY railfan page I saw that LA&L had two 430's from M&E already on the roster. I must have seen one on the way through to Lakeville to go for some maintenance.
According to that page one of the two is now working on the WNYP, a LA&L offshoot.

[Anonymous]

Well folks, I'm back, so let the questions fly!! [;)]

[Anonymous]

Well folks, I'm back, so let the questions fly!! [;)]

[Anonymous]

Common, I know somebody's got some questions!

[Anonymous]

Common, I know somebody's got some questions!

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by railpac

Common, I know somebody's got some questions!

Why do Alcos leak more fluids than EMDs?

LC

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by railpac

Common, I know somebody's got some questions!

Why do Alcos leak more fluids than EMDs?

LC