Poll posting here and Remote Control locos.

[Anonymous]

Railroads do not make decision's based on what the employee's want. They make decision's based on what the Stockholders want. There has to be a economical factor that say's remotes are better. I cannot see a railroad investing so much time and money (and all railroads are doing it) into something that show's no promise. Railroads are in business to make profit not overhead.
TIM A

[Anonymous]

Railroads do not make decision's based on what the employee's want. They make decision's based on what the Stockholders want. There has to be a economical factor that say's remotes are better. I cannot see a railroad investing so much time and money (and all railroads are doing it) into something that show's no promise. Railroads are in business to make profit not overhead.
TIM A

[cabforward]

ironhorseman,

i'm not in rr-ing, but reading the posts here, i can name a few issues about rcls..

you have read posts about rcls.. i have nothing new to add.. if earlier posts haven't helped you to understand the issue of crews vs. rcls, i can't make a difference now.. but, on the slght chance something might click, see if these indicate a good reason for a crew's discontent..

no cab operator-- loss of view from higher position..

smaller crews-- crews take more responsibility, greater stress whether using the rcl personally, or a switchman trying to be 2 places at once..

pressure from above-- mgmt. says the rcl speeds up the process.. they're writing checks crews have to cash by working faster, taking less time for safety.. besides which, crews say the rcl slows their work, so they have to work extra hard to look like they are working quicker, because that's what mgmt. wants..

seniority-- men lose positions due to fewer workers needed for crews.. they drop down to extra board, or get re-assigned to another district, or furloughed.. besides which, the stress on home life..

crewmen still working-- they have their job still, but a co-worker was downgraded or whatever, possibly due to the crewman's seniority.. maybe they knew each other, maybe on the same crew..

the future-- there aren't many crewmen who feel the r.r. is looking out for them.. if rcls run yard engines, can road rcls be far behind? initially, a road rcl would probably be used on short runs, under specific conditions.. still, the bottom line is fewer workers, more profit, happy stockholders..

certainly, there are a 100 more good reasons why crews would never support rcls, and they will add them.. for now, please tell me why the ones i gave don't seem like a big deal to you..

[cabforward]

ironhorseman,

i'm not in rr-ing, but reading the posts here, i can name a few issues about rcls..

you have read posts about rcls.. i have nothing new to add.. if earlier posts haven't helped you to understand the issue of crews vs. rcls, i can't make a difference now.. but, on the slght chance something might click, see if these indicate a good reason for a crew's discontent..

no cab operator-- loss of view from higher position..

smaller crews-- crews take more responsibility, greater stress whether using the rcl personally, or a switchman trying to be 2 places at once..

pressure from above-- mgmt. says the rcl speeds up the process.. they're writing checks crews have to cash by working faster, taking less time for safety.. besides which, crews say the rcl slows their work, so they have to work extra hard to look like they are working quicker, because that's what mgmt. wants..

seniority-- men lose positions due to fewer workers needed for crews.. they drop down to extra board, or get re-assigned to another district, or furloughed.. besides which, the stress on home life..

crewmen still working-- they have their job still, but a co-worker was downgraded or whatever, possibly due to the crewman's seniority.. maybe they knew each other, maybe on the same crew..

the future-- there aren't many crewmen who feel the r.r. is looking out for them.. if rcls run yard engines, can road rcls be far behind? initially, a road rcl would probably be used on short runs, under specific conditions.. still, the bottom line is fewer workers, more profit, happy stockholders..

certainly, there are a 100 more good reasons why crews would never support rcls, and they will add them.. for now, please tell me why the ones i gave don't seem like a big deal to you..

[Anonymous]

All of the above with safety being the biggest factor followed by they are slow as molases loading and kill jobs. I hate running them. The work takes forever to do and they slow down the pace of my shift. It feels like the day will never end. Thank goodness that I am out on the road now and only have to deal with them when my train doesn't get built due to their poor speed/reliability, or when they shoot craps at the end of the yard and clog stuff up. They are one reason why we lost some UPS z trains down in K.C. Slow, slow, slow.
Ken

[Anonymous]

All of the above with safety being the biggest factor followed by they are slow as molases loading and kill jobs. I hate running them. The work takes forever to do and they slow down the pace of my shift. It feels like the day will never end. Thank goodness that I am out on the road now and only have to deal with them when my train doesn't get built due to their poor speed/reliability, or when they shoot craps at the end of the yard and clog stuff up. They are one reason why we lost some UPS z trains down in K.C. Slow, slow, slow.
Ken

[ironhorseman]

We can post polls in most any other forum except the Trains Magazine forum. I posted a poll at the Trains.com forum and no responce. It may be because no one wants to take it, but I don't think the same audience is over there as over here.

Would anyone want to see this feature added here?

What I was trying to find out is what is the worst aspect of remote control locos in the yard. Everyone seems to have an opinion on this and I was just trying to organize the opinions to what the most common is.

Here's the question:
Whats the worst part of R/C locos?:
Difficult operating controls?
Increased injuries?
All assingments not getting done on time?
Lost jobs?
Mechanical failure?
All of the above are equally bad?
Something else?
There are no negatives?

I read the magazine article on the subject. I took these points from the article. If you want to vote you can do so at http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6352

If you think this topic has been dicussed enough already then I guess you can either ignore it or say so.

I was only wondering. I guess I still don't understand what all the big deal is.

[ironhorseman]

We can post polls in most any other forum except the Trains Magazine forum. I posted a poll at the Trains.com forum and no responce. It may be because no one wants to take it, but I don't think the same audience is over there as over here.

Would anyone want to see this feature added here?

What I was trying to find out is what is the worst aspect of remote control locos in the yard. Everyone seems to have an opinion on this and I was just trying to organize the opinions to what the most common is.

Here's the question:
Whats the worst part of R/C locos?:
Difficult operating controls?
Increased injuries?
All assingments not getting done on time?
Lost jobs?
Mechanical failure?
All of the above are equally bad?
Something else?
There are no negatives?

I read the magazine article on the subject. I took these points from the article. If you want to vote you can do so at http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6352

If you think this topic has been dicussed enough already then I guess you can either ignore it or say so.

I was only wondering. I guess I still don't understand what all the big deal is.