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Posted by henry6 on Sunday, April 5, 2009 4:25 PM

 

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    Sometimes, I swear, I read too quickly through something, and miss the main gist of what it's all about.  You ever have that happen to you?

 

Often they are written that way!

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Posted by SFbrkmn on Sunday, April 5, 2009 3:26 PM

Press releases concerning rr information are certainly hyped with spin and  added details which don't apply  simply  to create attention. The in house rr employee releases fall  into this quite well. One area which the rrs have improved on is restricited information. It used to be that if a crew was involved in a grade crossing accident, the names of the crew members would be made public. I believe this now is outlawed and for the better. BNSF has a policy of not releasing names of crewmembers and all crews now carry what is called collision cards which have a rr contact for the media. Some workers have been harrassed and even received death threats all because their name was made public through a news release.

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Posted by Poppa_Zit on Wednesday, April 1, 2009 11:16 PM

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Sometimes, I swear, I read too quickly through something, and miss the main gist of what it's all about.  You ever have that happen to you?

Shoot. I boxed for six years in Golden Gloves, getting my pumpkin punched. Now I live in a constant fog.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Wednesday, April 1, 2009 5:35 PM

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Keep in mind that Newswire is a media outlet. We all know how the media likes to create attention. Just because it was reported does not mean the facts are for real.

The Newswire also contains information put out by public relations firms working for their clients. Meaning press releases. Meaning hype (hyperbole) and extreme embellishment of facts. I'd say a majority of stories on the Newswire have their base in press releases. PR firms are not considered media; rather, they court the media to get free exposure for their clients's products and services.

    Sometimes, I swear, I read too quickly through something, and miss the main gist of what it's all about.  You ever have that happen to you?

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Posted by Poppa_Zit on Wednesday, April 1, 2009 4:13 PM

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Keep in mind that Newswire is a media outlet. We all know how the media likes to create attention. Just because it was reported does not mean the facts are for real.

The Newswire also contains information put out by public relations firms working for their clients. Meaning press releases. Meaning hype (hyperbole) and extreme embellishment of facts. I'd say a majority of stories on the Newswire have their base in press releases. PR firms are not considered media; rather, they court the media to get free exposure for their clients's products and services.

BTW, I saw that story on yesterday's Newswire too. It was right before the story about UP going green with 100 percent electric locomotives. In fact, they've already started installing the middle rail west of the yard where Carl works. I'm sure he'll chime in here with more details.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Wednesday, April 1, 2009 3:30 PM

SFbrkmn

Keep in mind that Newswire is a media outlet. We all know how the media likes to create attention. Just because it was reported does not mean the facts are for real. 

  Yes,  I had considered that there was a possibility that this isn't real.Wink

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Posted by SFbrkmn on Wednesday, April 1, 2009 2:52 PM

Keep in mind that Newswire is a media outlet. We all know how the media likes to create attention. Just because it was reported does not mean the facts are for real. 

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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Wednesday, April 1, 2009 9:34 AM

Was already tried - in 1999 by Rob Krebs (BNSF) and Paul Tellier (CN) - both gone now.  STB imposed an 18-month moratorium to study major mergers - after unsuccessful appeals to courts to lift moratorium, merger application was withdrawn.  Principal issue was how to fit that long name on the side of all freight cars, esp. flats. - remains unresolved to this day.  Sigh

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Posted by SchemerBob on Wednesday, April 1, 2009 9:13 AM

Good grief Murph, you had me fooled for a while there, and this is a thread from three years ago! Laugh

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Wednesday, April 1, 2009 7:41 AM

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A good name might be burlington northern sante fe canadian national!

  With the current state of the world economy,  I don't forsee that happening anytime soon.  Besides, I doubt the regulators would allow it.

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Posted by sanvtoman on Sunday, April 2, 2006 5:32 PM
A good name might be burlington northern sante fe canadian national!
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Posted by lonewoof on Sunday, April 2, 2006 4:48 PM
Well, it's probably going to change to "B-NS-F" ,black and white, after the merger, anyhow.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Sunday, April 2, 2006 11:41 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jeaton

QUOTE: Originally posted by Murphy Siding

It was in yesterday's newswire, March 31st, 2009


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It was on yesterday's newswire.

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Posted by jeaton on Sunday, April 2, 2006 10:50 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Murphy Siding

It was in yesterday's newswire, April 1st, 2006


You're hallucinating. Better get a refill on your meds.[}:)][}:)][:D][:D][:D]

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Posted by MichaelSol on Sunday, April 2, 2006 10:36 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by GN-Rick

Ya gotta love marketers and consultants. It was their ilk that convinced the
Great Northern Railway to abandon their all-time classic color scheme
in favor of a blue/gray/white mess. Only shows the idiocy hasn't left yet.

Raises the interesting image of a couple of guys with John Budd cornered in his office while they "convince him" against his better judgment to change the colors.

This idea that the consultants are so shrewd and manipulative and the railroad management so passive on important issues is just baloney.

Usually the company makes a decision. Then they hire the consultants. These people aren't just hanging around convincing railroad companies to do things.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Sunday, April 2, 2006 8:58 AM
It was in yesterday's newswire, April 1st, 2006

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Posted by jeaton on Sunday, April 2, 2006 8:49 AM
And then there is another old saying: "You can fool some of the people all of the time and all the people some of the time, but you can't fool all the people all the time."

Happy day after April 1st.

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Posted by eolafan on Sunday, April 2, 2006 8:42 AM
There is an old saying that applied here, and it goes something like..."THOSE WHO CAN DO, THOSE WHO CAN'T CONSULT".
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 2, 2006 7:12 AM
Why can't just leave enough alone?
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Posted by Zwingle on Sunday, April 2, 2006 7:08 AM
QUOTE:
it has always been Burlington Northern Santa Fe post-merger.


"BNSF Railway" has been the railroad's official name for over a year. BNSF Railway is owned by the "Burlington Northern Santa Fe Corp." which has kept the same name post-merger.
http://www.bnsf.com/employees/communications/railway/pdf/200501.pdf
http://www.rrb.gov/blaw/bcd/name_change.asp
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Posted by blhanel on Saturday, April 1, 2006 9:54 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by miniwyo

I cant find it in the NewsWire, Link it if ya would pls.


I don't see it there either. Methinks Murph is taking advantage of the calendar.[:D]
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Posted by Murphy Siding on Saturday, April 1, 2006 9:27 PM
Honest truth: I'm not smart enough to link things. It took me 6 months, and a lot of coaching, to figure out how to quote someone else's post.[sigh]

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Posted by coborn35 on Saturday, April 1, 2006 9:26 PM
Yes please.

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Posted by miniwyo on Saturday, April 1, 2006 9:12 PM
I cant find it in the NewsWire, Link it if ya would pls.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Saturday, April 1, 2006 8:52 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by BNSFrailfan

Rumor!

Rumor? It's on the newswire.[%-)]

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 1, 2006 6:58 PM
Rumor!
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Posted by Murphy Siding on Saturday, April 1, 2006 4:37 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by GN-Rick

Ya gotta love marketers and consultants. It was their ilk that convinced the
Great Northern Railway to abandon their all-time classic color scheme
in favor of a blue/gray/white mess. Only shows the idiocy hasn't left yet.

I agree 100%. The funny thing is, here all they'd have to do is touch up the paint on the locomotives used locally. Most are still *somewhat* Cascade green-under all the grime.[;)]

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Saturday, April 1, 2006 4:34 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by nanaimo73

Well done, Murph !

Isn't that the way you interpret it?

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Posted by silicon212 on Saturday, April 1, 2006 4:30 PM
IIRC it has always been Burlington Northern Santa Fe post-merger. BNSF fits better on the long hoods than the full name.

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