BN Executive Paint Scheme

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BN Executive Paint Scheme
Posted by Lyon_Wonder on Saturday, February 04, 2006 1:17 AM
In the early 1990s Burlington Northern Introduced their Executive
paint scheme that first showed on rebuilt F-9 BN1 and BN2 engines, and later adapted as the standard paint job for their brand new SD70MACs. If the proposed merger with Santa Fe in the Mid-1990s failed to see the light of day and remained its own railroad, would BN have
incorporated the Executive paint into other wide cab models they might
have acquired, such as GE C44-9Ws and non-AC EMDs such as SD70Ms or SD75s, or reverted to regular cascade green? I'm asking because I heard that BN specifically choose the Executive paint job to
distingui***heir AC-traction SD70MAC's from the rest of their
conventional DC fleet.



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Posted by tigerstripe on Saturday, February 04, 2006 3:55 AM
I think that the Greinstien green would have been applied to the SD70MAC's only.
For one BN was not a big fan of GE and would not have went with the C44-9W and stayed with the SD70, the last new orders for GE's were the C30-7 (1985) and the LMX B39-8's. I believe the GE idea came from Santa Fe, And since BN has a bad habit of only buying new units for the Powder River coal service I think the only new power would have been the SD70MAC's. All other trains get power bumped off the Powder River, SD60's, SD40-2's, C30-7's, the Oakway SD60's.. And now that Greinstien works for Delta Air Lines his "executive" paint scheme is also gone. Everything is either the regular green or the whiteface...thats just the way i see it...except maybe the new SD70ace which get's the Tigerstripe scheme.
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Posted by anb740 on Saturday, February 04, 2006 3:55 AM
This was my understanding as well. BN prided themselves on their "MAC" fleet, and were stingy as h*** about letting them wander off on another railroad. (I didn't see my first executive 70MAC on CSX until after the merger!) I guess we can all ponder the "what if" scenario.....I would personally like to have seen what the scheme would've looked like on a Dash 9 or AC44!

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 04, 2006 8:30 AM
I just wi***he BN would had left them(SD70Mac)in the Executive Scheme and not the H2 Scheme. The Exeutive Scheme looks so good on those SD70MAC's. Allan.
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Posted by waltersrails on Saturday, February 04, 2006 5:38 PM
I wish BN was still around every once in a while i get lucking and see one through here

I have in one of my train videos im going to release later in the year.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 04, 2006 7:42 PM
I wish BN was still around and I wisht the Paint was still being used.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 7:06 PM
i really like the executive MAC's. i don't like H2 MAC's very well. BN would not have bought GE's if they didn't merge w/ SF. After BN had bad luck w/ a fleet of U- boats (they were sent back to GE when the lease was up) they stayed EMD. But when they merged w/ SF they must have seen how good the C44-9's were as they now have over 1,700 DASH 9's! They have 700-800 SD70MACs.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 7:45 PM
i am actually quite fond of the Bn executive scheme i thought it was pretty classy and looked a heck of a lot better than those green ones.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 10, 2006 11:54 AM
from the KATO website
QUOTE: Even after the BN+ATSF=BNSF merger, the SD70MAC continued to be painted in the classy "Executive" scheme. BNSF #9837, manufactured in March, 1997, was the final new locomotive to be painted in the BN Executive scheme.
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Posted by bushhog8fan on Saturday, February 11, 2006 7:56 AM
does bnsf still have the e-and f units and are they still green & cream?
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Posted by eolafan on Saturday, February 11, 2006 9:45 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by bushhog8fan

does bnsf still have the e-and f units and are they still green & cream?


BN numbers 1-2-3 are at the Illinois Railway Museum at Union, IL and I believe are still owned by BNSF but on long term lease (like 99 years) to the museum for a $1 fee or something like that...essentially a donation by BNSF. The Railroad has the right to take them out on the road when they like for special events. The company I work for has a factory in Union so I get to see these units from the street that runs by the museum once in a while and the last time I saw them they looked rather dirty with some rust streaks running down the sides of their green and cream paint jobs...pretty sad but the IRM does not have the facilities to keep them inside all the time. There is also an E9 in BN Metra cascade green and white that I believe IRM uses for parts there.
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Posted by bushhog8fan on Saturday, February 11, 2006 2:03 PM
thanks for the info eolafan.
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Posted by espeefoamer on Saturday, February 11, 2006 3:13 PM
The executive scheme still exists.Occasionally an SD70 will wander from coal service and come through the L.A. area.I really like the executive scheme[:)].
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Posted by stmtrolleyguy on Monday, February 13, 2006 8:16 PM
I really the way that paint scheme looks. It's interesting to look at that scheme compared to many other common schemes today. For on thing, it is in some ways a little less fla***han some modern schemes (orange is definately brighter than green), but I think that this scheme displays more of a classy air to it. It almost seems like a return to the older days, of early 1st generation F and GP units when paint schemes sort of exploded from steam locomotive black to bright and vibrant colors. The BN executive scheme is definately darker, but it really adds that touch of class to the locomotive.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 11:47 PM
still the best lookin paint job out there. it even looks good dirty too
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 10:57 AM
Santa Fe went almost all GE before the merger only getting a small sample of the SD75. So seeing BN GE's would be very unlikely. The question is would they have bought and of the DC version or would they have waited until the ACe came out?
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 09, 2006 1:43 PM
BN knew that the GEs were nothing but a pile of junk. They are cheaply built and don't last as long as the GM does. Look at how many SD40-2 , SD60 Oakways and all kind of GP units that are still running. How many C30-7 do you still see around? I don't unsterand why the BNSF is still using B23 and B30-7 they are nothing but a steaming pile of crap. BN knew better than to buy anymoe GE and would have continued to buy 70Macs and now the new 70Aces all painted in the Cream and Green.

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