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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 2, 2003 9:41 PM
Hey mr McCarthy...

Now i could make up some names.. like Fred Bloggs or Harry John.. without putting nay thought into it.. that name is pretty stupid to me.. i doubt its your real name.

Sorry about calling your name stupid if it is your real name.. actuallyi'm not sorry in the slightest bit

Sure your name isn't Mike Hunt?

i always get a kick outta that name!

now next issue, other then my unusal type orf pet pieves.. such as flickering fluo lights, i cna't stand people with double standerds.. so what was the rule again.. i can only say on this forum that "i banged my girlfriend" between the hours of 1am through 3 am (this forum time), depending on the tragectory and the variable rotation of the earth, and weather the moon is rising over aquarius?

was that the rule..

oh and i cna't speak of religion.. or i can.. what was the exception for that one.. was it.. depending on the level water in the atlantic ocean multiplied by pie to find the square route of the mass of mars in cubic feet.. and only thne i cna talk about religion right??

well to bad buddy.. it's called "C'est-la-vie"

Ig i want to tell you..hmmm... i got to chucrh every sunday.. are you going to have me banned... My girlfriend looks great naked,... now are you going to have me banned... i gave her a massage last night.. gettin steamey... you gonna ban me now?

look your wasting your time on this forum.. see why can't you go that forum on imaloser.com and censor their material?

i mean if your gonna ban me beacuse i tell you that i worship God.. your a sick, sick individual.

If your gonna ban me beacuse i like to use the 3 letter S word (S-E-X) oh look at that.. You alowed that word to slip through the "online word censorship"

i'm just worried though, what your actual motive is.. i see somehting deep, and dark..

now i would like to quote a famous man who i do QUOTE for his supreme stupidity the phrase goes like this

"Quityerbitchin'"

Remeber that.. that comes for you my man... all from you

what did the elephant say when it saw cabforward?

Let me guess, this guy only eats peanuts too!

hahahahahahaahahhaah!
Good night Mr. Hunt!! or as we say in french "Bonne nuit!"

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Posted by edblysard on Wednesday, July 2, 2003 10:03 AM
Your right, even with all of the passive, and completly unguarded crossings, not a soul was killed. The cops didnt guard anything, they didnt even know about it till the show was over, so, adding in all of the crossings I didnt mention, guess what? No one died. And you sound upset that no one was killed. What a sick person you are, wanting people to be killed so you have something to write about on a internet forum.
Truly a wretched individule.
Hey, when are you going to get Tim his facts?
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Posted by wabash1 on Wednesday, July 2, 2003 7:59 AM
there was no reson to give a traffic count or how many crossing was protected. it was a slam on you. but if you must know the gates and lights was the only thing protecting these crossing as the railroad never notifified the public just their own track men to get out of the way.
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Posted by Mookie on Wednesday, July 2, 2003 7:24 AM
Look Sugar, no one is going to take their valuable time and read all that. Why don't you condense it for me and I will then read it!

Thanx

Jen

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Posted by JoeKoh on Wednesday, July 2, 2003 7:09 AM
hey
operation lifesaver has seminars coming up in your state.why don't you go to them get your facts straight and then we'll talk.
stay safe
joe

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Posted by Mookie on Wednesday, July 2, 2003 6:44 AM
There you are, you rascal. I thought you were out and not paying attention! Got a story just for you!

Co-worker was stopped at a red traffic light. It was triggered red because of a train at the crossing across the intersection. The east-west traffic was busy Highway 2 here in Lincoln.
There were 2-3 cars already on the north side of the grade crossing. She couldn't proceed straight - there was no room. Her tail would have been sticking out in traffic. Didn't want to turn, since she needed to cross the tracks to get to her destination. Are you following this?

Some guy behind her came up and nicely knocked on her window and told her he thought the signal was broken and wouldn't change to green, so she should just proceed on thru the red light and cross the intersection. She smiled and pointed out the fact that there was a train going across the grade crossing.

He was really startled about that, since he hadn't seen the teeny-tiny train in bright sunshine on a clear day! The sun wasn't as bright as the red glow from his face, however!

I knew you would enjoy this - she certainly did!

Jen

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 2, 2003 5:26 AM
Missouri, You lack the same kind of information in all of your postings. You are the person who called railroads "Robber Barons" and "Murders". So why do you not just bottom line it. How many times, on average per year, has the railroads been proven truely negligent in a railroad crossing death? How many people have been killed crossing railroad tracks after they stopped, looked, and listend? If you are going to make statments using words like thieves and murders, then you must be able to show proof.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 2, 2003 3:00 AM
With 10 trains a mile long going 60 mph a blind deaf person can cross safely 23 hours and 50 minutes a day. Now you didn't give the traffic count useing the passive crossings now did you, or how many crossings, or if the police had them guarded.
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Posted by dekemd on Tuesday, July 1, 2003 11:18 PM
No offense taken. Thick skin is definantly a requirement for a cop. Same as railroaders from what I've heard. I get cussed out by the people I deal with, you get cussed out by your bosses. But hey, at least your bosses don't shoot at you!

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 1, 2003 9:13 PM
WAY TO GO ED!!!!!!!!!!! I COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT BETTER. ONCE AGAIN, CONGRATS.
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Posted by edblysard on Tuesday, July 1, 2003 4:23 PM
Agreed, even with all the bad sight lines, rotted ties, no horn blowing, no one of top of the cars, no flagman with a stop sign, or any stolen, incorrectly aimed and out of date, and burned out flashing signals at all those blind crossing with tall brush, trees and weeds, and detached garages at rural crossings with only crossbucks, not a single person was murdered by the cars.
Amazing, aint it!
You would have though, before the UP forced the train to runaway,(because you know it was done on purpose) they would have called one of us, so we could be in position to shove someone into the path of the cars. Wouldnt want to break our record here at the murdeing den of theives, now would we.
Stay Frosty,
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Posted by wabash1 on Tuesday, July 1, 2003 3:27 PM
Ed
I been thinking where to put this staement and i decided here is as good as any. I have in my hand a report on the union pacific runaway. it seems this cut of cars traveled 28 miles. the train passed a detecter just before derailing and it was going 86mph. the turn out was good for 15 mph. ( now detectors can be wrong on speed one showed me going by at 99mph.) but this is still on going.

Here is my question. the police was never notified of the runaways. there was no engine horn blowing and lights shining . why was there no fatality road crossing accedent for missouri to complain about? maybe all that noise and bells and lights are the problems. maybe those lights blind these people so they are like moths to a bulb. Or maybe they stop looked listen and lived!!!!
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Posted by edblysard on Tuesday, July 1, 2003 1:33 AM
Yup, they do. Cant skin em, cant give em away.
Oh well,
Stay Frosty,
Ed

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Posted by sooblue on Monday, June 30, 2003 10:29 PM
Yup, Too bad.
Say you said >scratch a saint, find a sinnerRefering to lottery tickets?

I like "scratch a saint, smell a sinner"
refering to a scratch and sniff (kids will do that to ya)
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Posted by wabash1 on Monday, June 30, 2003 8:45 PM
This is exactly what i was talking about. and is the way i thought you was saying it at first. i am sorry for getting alittle testy sounding as i thought i was saying things right. this is the problem with typing and forums as you need to spell everything out and you are like me tell it in few words as quick as possible for time dictates what we do. glad i didnt offend you but then again if your a cop you are as thick skined as railroaders.
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Posted by dekemd on Monday, June 30, 2003 6:09 PM
Ah, I see said the blind man.

It seems we've been misunderstanding each other. I see what you are saying about the jails. In NC the jails are run by the Sheriff's Dept. in each county. Some city depts have a small holding cell for when things get real busy, but when time permits prisoners are transferred to the county jail. City depts without holding cells and company police, railroad or otherwise, take their prisoners to the county jail. Different states have different procedures for jailing prisoners. My apoligies for not being more clear on the matter.

I also need to clarify our pacts with the other states. These pacts are for pursuit situations. If a pursuit goes into one of the other states we have full police powers as long as it is a continuous pursuit. If we don't catch the guy and the pursuit is terminated, then our police powers in the other state end. If the police in the other state catches the guy after that and arrests him, then we have to go through the extradition procedures. If he is caught before the pursuit is terminated then no extradition papers are required. Sorry I didn't make the clearer yesterday. It had been a long day.

As for the effort put forth by the railroad cops, I'm sure they're are like all police agencies. You've got some really good ones, some average ones, and some really bad ones. I'm also pretty sure that their efforts in solving crimes is based on the crime itself. They probably won't put a lot of effort into a simple vandalism, trespassing or minor theft, but for something serious like equipment or track tampering, major theft, or attacks on railroad employees they'll probably work pretty hard on solving the crime. At least I hope they would.

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Posted by dekemd on Monday, June 30, 2003 5:30 PM
I have no idea. I thought it was overkill also, but it seems lots of places are going to that now. There are several agencies around the US that are now requiring a 4 yr degree. Forensics can get pretty intensive, but I can tell you from experience that it's not necessary for a patrol officer.

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Posted by wabash1 on Monday, June 30, 2003 7:05 AM
hey backforwards

Im sure you have something to turn in on me by now. and if you do its not hard for the editor to know who i am its all there when i signed on here 7 years ago.

but i would like to know before you have me kicked off this forum where you get a that handle or what it stands for or what it is.
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Posted by wabash1 on Monday, June 30, 2003 6:50 AM
and read my post i said that they can arrest for anything that someone does on or to company property but the railroad dont have a jail. where do they take them to the local police. are cops ( like all of them are system wide) to local and state police. they have the red and soforth. but their powers are limited compared to a regular cop. they are a full police force with in the company but that is it. (hense the security gaurd status.) it may have been a poor choice of words but the way things are done are the same.

As far as the packed you have with tennessee georgia and soforth ill haft to do some research ( I have a cousin on the state police force in tenn he should know he is a luitenant) but the laws of extrodition was nation wide ( this was the impression i was under) Ill ask him and see.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 30, 2003 5:34 AM
Well Mr. McCarthy you need to work more efficent. I bet if you sat down, with a little effort you can rat out all us scum. Why, just the mispelled words of mine would get me 10 years to life. I cannot imagine what the world would be like without people like you. Keep up the good work we need more narc's like you.
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Posted by cabforward on Monday, June 30, 2003 12:05 AM
doggone it, now you've gone and forced me to blow my cover!! o.k., it's joseph mccarthy, still working, still digging for scum, and god, how i love it!!

so many to report, so little time..

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Posted by Jackflash on Sunday, June 29, 2003 11:42 PM
Derrick, just a question, I dont know one way
or the other, but why would a RR cop need to
have a degree, high school yes, but college
seems like overkill. jackflash
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Posted by edblysard on Sunday, June 29, 2003 11:04 PM
But its OK when he writes it, after all, he decides what is correct and proper, and when we write things like that, it suddenly becomes vulgar and foul.
Reads like he has a set of double standards to me, the ones he demands us to use, and the one he thinks he should be allowed to use.
Of course, scratch a saint, find a sinner.
Stay Frosty,
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Posted by sooblue on Sunday, June 29, 2003 9:53 PM
I know that the language could be better and some of the thoughts could be better and even the spelling could be better.

Oh well! what ya goin to do? this forum is UNmoderated.

In an above post you sounded just like the people you are lambasting. You even cursed and cussed.
(*#^^@*#* and *#^@#* )everyone knows what you meant. I hope you have done the right thing and turned in your badge and resigned.

It reminds me of the cops who arrested the kids in the 60s for smokin marry jane and than went back to their car and lit up what they confiscated.
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Posted by dekemd on Sunday, June 29, 2003 9:32 PM
I didn't say anything about California. If you will read my post it says that a cop in North Carolina can chase someone all over the state, and into Virginia, Tennessee, and Georgia. State Troopers, Sheriff's Deputy, City police, and yes railroad police can do this. Also, if a NC State Trooper chases someone into the above mentioned states and catches them, they put them in the back of their car and bring them back, no paper work necessary. Don't believe me, look up the North Carolina laws of arrest, search, and seizure, as well as the reciprocal agreements between North Carolina and the other states. How do I know this? I'm a cop. I've had courses on Constitutional law, criminal law, motor vehicle law, civil law, drug laws, abc laws, laws of arrest, search and seizure, and a few others. I also deal with it everyday in the real world. When was your last law class?


As for the college requirements, when I last talked to a NS officer he said they required a 4 yr degree. However, this was back in '97. If you say they don't, I'll have to take your word for it.

If NS requires their officers to call the local cops when they make an arrest then that is a state or company requirement. In North Carolina it is not necessary. I have personally witnessed a CSX officer arrest a man and take him to jail. He did enlist the Sheriff's Dept in locating the individual.

A little more to the story,

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Posted by foamer4000 on Sunday, June 29, 2003 8:13 PM
To forum slime. Sounds like Kevin has you pegged. Go and report me any time you like. I will just come back as D from lipton. You are intolerant and narrow minded sir.
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Posted by foamer4000 on Sunday, June 29, 2003 8:01 PM
I enjoyed your earlier post. Learned a few things to. But with a skull that thick Cabforward will never change his narrow minded views of intolernce.
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Posted by Jackflash on Sunday, June 29, 2003 9:54 AM
Derrick, youre both right, I remember one special agent we had who was a "security guard" as you
describe, the man wasnt the professional "cop"
he probably had the power to be one, but not the
desire, hes been retired now for several years
and the carrier didnt replace him. now when a
special agent is needed one has to be sent, and it
takes 3 or 4 hours to get there, that by itself
is un-professional, they cant help if they aint there. Some of the agents I've met are pros.
but make no mistake there some Barney Fife's out
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Posted by wabash1 on Sunday, June 29, 2003 9:46 AM
i guess you really told me ...

and you are going to sit there and tell me that if a railroad cop wants to they will chase a man or woman who does a crime in north carolina and takes off and stops in california that the cop can chase them and catch them in california and arrest them and haul tham back to north carolina for prosecution. get a life a state trooper cant even chase someone to another state and arrest them and bring them back. not with out proper paper work and that takes time. so that wipes out your first statement. as far as arest procedure goes. they can arrest anyone on railroad property doing anything from tresspassing to theft vandilism and soforth but they must call local cops in to haul them in. oh and as far as the requirments go. read them closely next time it says prefered but not nessesary. I work for the ns. and the cops for the railroad are company and are also officials and can fire you for rule violations just like a train master. or roadforman. the cops are so few anymore that they very seldom leave a yard to investigate anything. that is left up to trainmasters and roadformans.

that is the rest of the story.

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