Safety funds vs. train miles traveled

[BRAKIE]

Missy,Tell your lies to somebody that doesn't know better..Drunk Drives kill more people then Railroads..Come into the real world and you will see the real truth of the slaughter by drunk drivers.You nuts..Unleaned and don't know your head from your behind.

[Anonymous]

Jeff, you are absolutely correct... English with a french acccent.. i tried hard to correct all the spelling mistakes before i clicked post...

Joe- I don't see the corilation between rotten tracks and a trsspasser. The guy is lucky he's not dead. He was trespassing. end of story

And J
Tet one year old made the most sense out of missouris post.. missouri just puts one gigantic run on sentance.. that really makes no sense at all...

Missour may have dollars but he doesn't have any SENSE!!

hahahahaha

Detour killer whatever kev.

[JoeKoh]

it was on the train newswire a reliable source.
unlike you one i trust. appparently you didn't take physics in high school.I don't have time to draw you a picture.but in this case i think youd be happy that no one was hurt or killed seeing that is what you post all the time because railroad people according to you are murderers etc. when they have a chance they do stop but most of the time the decisions made by others they only have a split second and trains can't stop on a dime.i hope this finally gets in your head that stop look listen and live does work.
until another time go back to mamma.
clown
joe

[wabash1]

forgive me people on this forum but i think its time for the M@M twins to get the view point they deserve. (or need) i will turn the key board over to my 1 year old grand daughter she was eating oreos and mand ms earlier i think she is ready its a one time thing so i told her the question to answer here is her reply


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that from the youngest unihead out here.(maybe).

[wabash1]

this statement is so out of place its hard to give you a answer but ill try (if i can make sense of it) rotten tracks have nothing to do with braking. when a train serails its not in braking anyways. its in power the rails spread under the weight or when going around the curve who said a treaspasser had anything to do with it. Learn about railroading and the forces on the rail and how trainhandling is done then come back and have a decent discussion.

[Anonymous]

Hey Missouri your posts aren't an ad for super spelling either. Besides, Kevin was typing in English with a French accent. If his first language is French (and please correct me if I am wrong Kevin) then he does a much better job communicating his point in Engli***han you do.

Jeff

[Anonymous]

I seen that. how rotten was the track where it couldn't take a train locking up it's brakes at maybe 10 miles a hour causeing it to derail? Looked like there was a crossing there to me so it wasn't a so-called trespasser and was the trespasser just used for a excuse for the rotton tracks?

[wabash1]

to everyone here please dont confuse misouri please . dont confuse him with the facts while his mind is made up.

[eolafan]

Oh Missouri, you evidently haven't been listening to everybody.....GO AWAY, NOW!!!!!!!!!

[JoeKoh]

hey clown
did you read the trains newswires?There is a story about how a csx crew slammed their train to a stop derailing 16 cars because a tresspasser was on the tracks wearing headfones.where do you get off calling these people murderers etc.?like i've said in another post the most important number is 1. Thats you clown. if you dont stop look and listen you will die.its as simple as that.So go back home to maama coward.
joe

[Anonymous]

He shows more intelligents than you. Ed was right, if anyone proves they are smarter then you, you insult them.
Did you get that data I asked for? Until you do please go away.
ILLINIOS

[Anonymous]

Is that in Cadadian gooble lettering or what? Tell me what causes tail ring there brainstein?

[Anonymous]

I have a confession to make

when i nmkow theres a crossing comming up, i "drive" my train off the tracks and break down the gate and slam into the first car waiting.. then i drive my train back onto the tracks and pretend nothing happened..

now missouris point, which i'm not sure was... but gate watch 24/7 eh... how about "professional study" eh? i've done a 8 hour watch once.. and the gates never failed when i watched.. not once!

sucker..

what else is there...

what do you mena can't say 0? i belive i did.. ZERO times they failed, no i can't say zero cars tried to pass... i wish i could.. but with numb-chucks like you, i'll never be able too! nor will any study

or i could alter my data like you!

CN side Triggered the lights.. around 30 secondes... Cp train triggered them in around 25 secondes...

HOW would they be a sight obstruction of some idiot jsut styed put at the gates?? they won't go up.. there are no trees, there is no sight obstruction.. the gates won't go up if one train is still going throuhg the crossing.. d'uh

AND to add insult to injury.. let's say you drive your train around the gates because you think your superman. you get hit./. you die...

your family can't hire a lawyer to sue anyone..

your dead...

you can't sue th railraod...

based on whitness statements. the conductors are IMMEDIATELY let go (also based on a police investigation..)

The case is closed...


AND THE CHERRY ON THE TOP..

not only are you dead, YOUR PARENTS or someone in your family COULD and most liekly WOULD get sued by the RR compnay for damages sustained on their Locomotives, cars, the clean up (if there is one) Engineers Disabilities, (yes you would have to pay that or your family would if you act dumb) so that really sucks.. your parents lost you.. they can't sue anyone about it.. and then they get sued 2000 dollar dmages...

Holy.. that really sucks!

moral of the story.. don't go aorund gates... it's a 300$ fine THE FIRST TIME if you get caught by police, second time you can loose your liscence for 3-5 years...

OUCH that really bites!

moral of the story again...
don't go around gates!

Killin' Machine Kev.

[wabash1]

Ed calm down . gosh you know we been called worse by better. besides this is just another notch in our belts of people we know that ask us a question or make a statement and before we can aswer change the subject. as for me im going to board my engine and i guess murder someone . why let those statistic go to waste later

killer wabash

[edblysard]

What you dont understand is railroads dont kill anybody, I have yet to see a crew swerve their train in order to hit anyone. What I have seen is crews go out of their way, above and beyond their duty to prevent people from getting hurt of killed.
What we would like for you to do is state, in one paragraph, what exactly your gripe is. So far, all we have seen is a bunch of losely stated insults, followed by heavly edited and incomplete statistics in a mumbo-jumbo,
mish-mash of gibberish and foolish statements.
Other than calling us murders, killers, thiefs and liars, you have yet to state your point in a coherent and complete sentence.
And, as pointed out by so many, you have yet to offer anything even faintly resembleing a solution to the grade crossing safety issue, although several of us have done so.
The fact that, like most cowards, you hide behind a made up name, and do nothing more than insult others from hiding is proof enough that you are a coward, and have no real issue, and are not concerned in the least with grade crossing safety, but instead, are here only to pick a fight. Which, once you have made one of your stupid accusations, when anyone challanges it, and offers a more intelligent response than any you could understand, you run away,
again just like a little kid, and start over with another stupid, inane, incomplete and assinine statement.
Instead of continuing to prove to us what a ignorant idiot your are with the garbage you post, try to form a posting where you state your gripe in clear, intelligent language, minus the insulting "your all killers" crap.
Although I am betting my friend was right when he profiled you, your are nothing but a coward at heart, and you do this only to get attention,
because this is most likley the only way you can get anyone to pay any attention to you at all.
We are waiting for the next installment of the
"How stupid is missouri show". We like to laugh at you, and your conspiracy theories.
Your a funny, ignorant little coward, sorta like the Don Knox of this forum, and we can allways count on you to provide a laugh with your nonsense.
If you can't form a intelligent response, then stay with the stupid ones, we need a joke now and then.
The Unihead Ed

[Anonymous]

You were asked to prove that point. So far you have not. Just sounds like more of your babble.
ILLINIOS

[Anonymous]

You are starting to wander off again. The responce that you just gave KEV sounds like babble to me.Lets try to to get you back on track. On account that you are the one that is negetive toward railroads, can you provide a count on how many times the railroad was proven to be negligent at a rail crossing? It should not be hard for an inteligent man like you to find. You claim the railroads are at fault in all the crossing accidents, well then prove it.
Can we also stick to the subject at hand? Please don't wonder off again and start babbling, it is rather annoying to us.
ILLINIOS

[wabash1]

what do you not understand that we dont care. i dont care could care less. and i pretty much speak for everyone on here. the part you dont understand is that the crossing deaths are not caused by the railroad its not caused by the engineer the signal maintainer or anyone else on the railroad. the fact remains that the driver at the wreck in the stupidity he shows is at fault. you get in my way i will hit you and kill you. the highway has a much higher death toll than the railroad. in 27years ive seen 15 fatal accidents on the railroad. i think this was a great record. i know of several accidents one the guy hit the 32nd car in the train. and almost got killed. he was very bad shape for some time. the truth be known is the fault lie with the driver of the car not the railroad. and all your ranting and raving wont change any ones mind here. if you want to make a differance then go to schools and do like operation life saver does and promote saftey. other wise keep your opinion to yourself.as i have disproved you so many times ans the numbers you keep posting i never read as with most statostics they aint worth the time. Oh yes one more thing if they pull in front of me ill be more than happy to hit them and if they are lucky ill kill them then they wont suffer so long.

[Anonymous]

What do you not understand that the railroads kill 5 times more people a year than are killed in a lot of states---for the whole state all drivers--for a whole year?

[Anonymous]

I can send you some scrap poles and cable to make median barriers out of. Or safety cones are pretty cheap ---just screw them to the street---pvc pipe sticking up every couple of feet works as median barriers. Whoop couldn't say -0- the could you. Now the question is what is the time from the first flashing light and the train gets there? Should be like 40 seconds for a quad track crossing. Is there 2nd, 3rd, 4th track occupied equipment installed at the crossing? How about are two trains allowed in the crossing area at the same time where one becomes the sight obstruction? How about occupied crossing equipment with lasors shooting across at diagonal angles to tell the train crew two miles before they get there that a gas truck is stalled on the crossing. Is the approach deiced before the trains move across. And the big question is how the heqq do you know if the gates failed or not? You on gate watch 24/7. EH!

[csxns]

Kev you live in a great country wi***he USA was like Canada.

[BRAKIE]

If you really want to be a crusader go after the drunk drivers and reckless and sleepy truckers..They kill MORE people then the railroads in the REAL WORLD and BUT YOU SEEM TO LIVE IN FANTASY WORLD WHERE TRAINS ONLY KILL PEOPLE..

[Anonymous]

Heres some of MY own Statistics...

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Crossing location : Baie D'urfe, Quebec.
Number of tracks at corssing: 4
Number of trains during a one Week study: 1, 167
Types of Trains included: Passanger and freight
Day with the Most Train Volume: Tuesday

Tracks are owned by CN and CP (2 of each)

Amount of Gates at the crossing: 2
Amount of times they failed to come on: 0
Amount of traffic that went around these gates in their lowered state: 109
30 of them were semi close calls, 11 of them were really close calls, and 1 was almost hit.

Amount of responsibility the railraod has: 0%
Amount of Responsibility the Faulty drivers have: 100%

**************

So whats the deal on that eh?.. you gonna balme the Railroad for their stupidity.. good luck.. you realize In Quebec if 2 or more people whitness a train accident in Quebec.. And both whitnesses testify that the Car went around the lowered gates, the Conductor and the Engineer are immediately let go.. and the investigation goes no further...

case closed.

Why should they or I be held responsible for your stupid driving skills... simple.. they aren't in Quebec..

trust me if your a driver in Quebec, it sucks if you get hit by a train..

A) you can't sue anyone.. stupid lawsuits are not and never will be allowed in Canada...

B) Your case is closed if people cathc your stupidity.. No questions asked...

So wow.. no suing you got it idiot.. you can't sue jack all...

Even if you spill hot cofee on yourself.. you can deffinately not sue anyone for that.. those kind of cases are NOT tolerated..

Remeber "A dumb driver makes a good crossing go bad"

i bet missouri, you go out looking for lawsuits too.. you wouldn't be able in canada.. your not allowed to waste the Courts times with Frivilovities, and people like you.. so buck up... its Mostly stupid drivers... I would ahve thought i lawyer would have known that

guess your too dense...

Detour Kev.

[Anonymous]

Ok, then go back till you find a year were all the case's are settled, you seem to have time on your hands. All I am asking for, is how many times the railroad has been proven negligent in a crossing accident? Can you show me one case in 2002 were the railroad was totally at fault? You use the name Missouri (The show me state) Show me one case were the driver Stopped, Looked and Listen, then proceeded and got hit by a train.
If you are trying to make a point about something, you don't seem to be doing a very good job. All you have proven to me so far is that railroad crossing death's are going down.
ILLINIOS

[edblysard]

How would you know, unless you were one of the people on the court house steps, with your hand out?
The Unihead Ed

[Jackflash]

This is BS I've been in 5 cases in court and the
railroad won all 5 cases. jackflash

[louisnash]

Joe
Spoken so true!

Brian (KY)

[Anonymous]

The railroads fault won't come out for the 2002 collisions until the court cases come out in 2004-2005. The railroads always lose or settle on the court house steps because they know they are gonna lose.

[Anonymous]

You have not answered my questions. How many of the deaths in 2002 were actually faulted toward the railroad? You seem to have alot of time on your hands looking up statistic's, look that one up. Or are you afraid as to what you might find?
Also, your highway death figures are presented in a deceaving manner. The way you present them, you show that you are safer driving in a car on the highway, then crossing railroad tracks. Anyone with commonsence would tell you, that is a false claim. In fact, you stand a higher risk getting killed by a drunk driver on the highway then at a rail crossing. (YOUR numbers show that.)
I think before you respond again, you should recrunch the numbers. I am sure you will find that the rail industy has a very good safty record.
ILLINIOS