QUOTE: Originally posted by UnionPacificRR6737
Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub
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QUOTE: Originally posted by cerneyhome I grew up loving both the Burlington and the Santa Fe. I had two uncles, one an engineer and the other a conductor on the Burlington. As a kid when we would visit Brookfield, Mo I'd get to see them at work -- great memories! And, then to get to Brookfield my family would ride the Santa Fe from Oklahoma City to Marceline, Mo (8 miles from Brookfield). So both were important to me. I think each had a special role that has been lost to a certain extent in merger. I especially miss the Texas Chief, and the Kansas City Zephyr. But, if two had to merge, they were the right ones in my book.
QUOTE: Originally posted by MP173 In 1968 I wrote the Santa Fe Railroad in Chicago requesting some information on the railroad. Imagine my delight a week or so later when a thick (I mean THICK) envelope is in our mailbox with timetables, a map, brief history, route description, and a packet of freight car specs. The envelope was at least two inches thick...I still have it and all contents. I wrote several railroads...most replied with timetables, the Santa Fe sent me enough to dream about. ed
QUOTE: Originally posted by espeefoamer Yes,I miss the Santa Fe! Although there are still plenty of Blue/yellow units around,they are sub lettered BNSF on the cab.( BOO HISS).And the red/silver warrbonnets are looking ragged.We need the ATSF back!
Originally posted by spbed Yes if you look up the BNSF system map you can see that. I am going to the bay area later this month & my intention is to check out the Richmond/Oakland area as well as the UPRR overland Donner Pass route thru Davis, Sacramento, Roseville, Truckee, Floriston, Reno. If I have time I will try to get to Stockton also[:o)] Reply Edit Tim Burton Member sinceApril 2005 From: Phoenix, AZ 81 posts Posted by Tim Burton on Monday, January 9, 2006 9:52 PM I miss it. Best Western RR, but we all know the PRR was the torch....errrrr....Standard. http://www.federalist.com Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 9, 2006 9:43 PM I grew up loving both the Burlington and the Santa Fe. I had two uncles, one an engineer and the other a conductor on the Burlington. As a kid when we would visit Brookfield, Mo I'd get to see them at work -- great memories! And, then to get to Brookfield my family would ride the Santa Fe from Oklahoma City to Marceline, Mo (8 miles from Brookfield). So both were important to me. I think each had a special role that has been lost to a certain extent in merger. I especially miss the Texas Chief, and the Kansas City Zephyr. But, if two had to merge, they were the right ones in my book. Reply Edit MP173 Member sinceMay 2004 From: Valparaiso, In 5,918 posts Posted by MP173 on Monday, January 9, 2006 9:34 PM In 1968 I wrote the Santa Fe Railroad in Chicago requesting some information on the railroad. Imagine my delight a week or so later when a thick (I mean THICK) envelope is in our mailbox with timetables, a map, brief history, route description, and a packet of freight car specs. The envelope was at least two inches thick...I still have it and all contents. I wrote several railroads...most replied with timetables, the Santa Fe sent me enough to dream about. ed Reply espeefoamer Member sinceNovember 2003 From: West Coast 4,122 posts Posted by espeefoamer on Monday, January 9, 2006 6:56 PM Yes,I miss the Santa Fe! Although there are still plenty of Blue/yellow units around,they are sub lettered BNSF on the cab.( BOO HISS).And the red/silver warrbonnets are looking ragged.We need the ATSF back! Ride Amtrak. Cats Rule, Dogs Drool. Reply chad thomas Member sinceJanuary 2005 From: Ely, Nv. 6,312 posts Posted by chad thomas on Monday, January 9, 2006 10:31 AM How could one not miss Santa Fe's interesting consists like this Reply mudchicken Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Denver / La Junta 10,790 posts Posted by mudchicken on Monday, January 9, 2006 8:25 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by Murphy Siding Can anybody tell me about where SF used CF-7's? Where they used out on the road? They were used everywhere, especially on branchlines and yards. With a normally aspirated 567, it was rare to see them above 4000 feet. Did see a late 1980's Q-Train go thru La Junta pulled by 3 CF-7's including Class Unit 2649 (Wagon Top, First Unit built to CF-7 spec.s)....Those rascals roar at 75+MPH. Mudchicken Nothing is worth taking the risk of losing a life over. Come home tonight in the same condition that you left home this morning in. Safety begins with ME.... cinscocom-west Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Monday, January 9, 2006 8:03 AM Yes if you look up the BNSF system map you can see that. I am going to the bay area later this month & my intention is to check out the Richmond/Oakland area as well as the UPRR overland Donner Pass route thru Davis, Sacramento, Roseville, Truckee, Floriston, Reno. If I have time I will try to get to Stockton also[:o)] QUOTE: Originally posted by UnionPacificRR6737 [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 9, 2006 3:59 AM Anyways has the ATSF ever gone through San Antonio by trackage rights from the other railroad companies? Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 2, 2006 10:00 PM I was surprised that the Santa Fe went by Berkeley, California cause I thought that Southern Pacific was the only railroad company that went there. I' ve a lot of good memories of the former Santa Fe line thru Berkeley,Ca.(The Oakland Branch?). In the 70's it was generally on borrowed time. The Locomotive Engineer was a man by the name of Art Pipes. Ian G.Narita
QUOTE: Originally posted by Murphy Siding Can anybody tell me about where SF used CF-7's? Where they used out on the road?
QUOTE: Originally posted by UnionPacificRR6737 [
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QUOTE: Originally posted by jkubajakiii I know I do. The Red Warbonnet paint job is the most beautiful I have ever scene. To bad the BNSF has no intentions to continue using it.
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QUOTE: Originally posted by cpbloom I miss the Santa Fe as much as I miss Conrail. [:(] and I miss Conrail a lot
Originally posted by trainman2244 Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 29, 2005 1:13 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed Your welcome I have ATSF zippo lighters & mugs & if I decide to get rid of them I will happy to ring you up as you sound like you would appreciate them. [:o)] Originally posted by UnionPacificRR6737 Ill buy them all for 50$ [:I] Reply Edit David_Telesha Member sinceNovember 2005 From: NYNH&H Norwich & Worcester MP21.7 774 posts Posted by David_Telesha on Thursday, December 29, 2005 9:18 AM QUOTE: Don't nock the AT&SF just because of the atitude of some of its fans. Of course I miss the Santa Fe! The Super Chief was arguably the USA's very best streamliner! You just contradicted yourself. Point made. David Telesha New Haven Railroad - www.NHRHTA.org Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:58 AM Hi from this side of the pond, I miss the old SF and one of the main reasons I came over to the States was to watch it, but I realise that the railroad was hurting financially and a lot of the major work could never have been done if the SF had never mergered with another RR. I must admit I would have happy to have seen it merge with Conrail before the split, kept the Red and Silver Warbonnet and been a true continental RR http://julian-sprott.fotopic.net Reply Edit daveklepper Member sinceJune 2002 20,029 posts Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:36 AM Don't nock the AT&SF just because of the atitude of some of its fans. Of course I miss the Santa Fe! The Super Chief was arguably the USA's very best streamliner! Even if the CZ had better scenery more domes and was thus more fun to ride. The Super Chief was kept in top shape right up to Amtrak and so was the El Cap. Whenever the AT&SF ran passsenger trains it ran them properly, even branch line locals were clean and had courteous crew people. It was one sharp operation in every respect, about as perfectly run a railroad as ever existed. And it certainly wasn't behind in innovating with truck-trailer on flatcar and containers and mechanical refrigerator cars and more. It air-conditioned coaches on long-distance trains long before most other railroads, certainly long before the PRR and NYC. Fred Harvery service in the dining cars. Very early CTC. When I was a kid in a New York grade school before WWII, we got our education about railroads from material suplied by the AT&SF, free to any school that wanted it. My mouth watered at pictures of a clean Pacific next to an E-3 A&B lashup. Admittedly its 4-8-4's weren't as pretty as the Daylights or the N&W J's, but they were still good looking engines, and very good perfomers. Its Hudsons had to take a place behind the Lackawanna's and the NKP's on looks, but they were as good as the much praised J's of the NYC, in my opinion, and again very good performers, as fast as any steam locomotive in the USA. Only one thing bothered me. The side-fishbelly underframes on some of the air-conditioned long distance remodeled coaches. Were these originally steel-framed wood cars that got replacement steel or steel covering the wood siding? (Mind you, I probably haven't seen one of these cars for about 50 years, so I am speaking from a very faded memory on this question.) Reply daveklepper Member sinceJune 2002 20,029 posts Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:33 AM Don't nock the AT&SF just because of the atitude of some of its fans. Of course I miss the Santa Fe! The Super Chief was arguably the USA's very best streamliner! Even if the CZ had better scenery more domes and was thus more fun to ride. The Super Chief was kept in top shape right up to Amtrak and so was the El Cap. Whenever the AT&SF ran passsenger trains it ran them properly, even branch line locals were clean and had courteous crew people. It was one sharp operation in every respect, about as perfectly run a railroad as ever existed. And it certainly wasn't behind in innovating with truck-trailer on flatcar and containers and mechanical refrigerator cars and more. It air-conditioned coaches on long-distance trains long before most other railroads, certainly long before the PRR and NYC. Fred Harvery service in the dining cars. Very early CTC. When I was a kid in a New York grade school before WWII, we got our education about railroads from material suplied by the AT&SF, free to any school that wanted it. My mouth watered at pictures of a clean Pacific next to an E-3 A&B lashup. Admittedly its 4-8-4's weren't as pretty as the Daylights or the N&W J's, but they were still good looking engines, and very good perfomers. Its Hudsons had to take a place behind the Lackawanna's and the NKP's on looks, but they were as good as the much praised J's of the NYC, in my opinion, and again very good performers, as fast as any steam locomotive in the USA. Only one thing bothered me. The side-fishbelly underframes on some of the air-conditioned long distance remodeled coaches. Were these originally steel-framed wood cars that got replacement steel or steel covering the wood siding? (Mind you, I probably haven't seen one of these cars for about 50 years, so I am speaking from a very faded memory on this question.) Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:15 AM Your welcome I have ATSF zippo lighters & mugs & if I decide to get rid of them I will happy to ring you up as you sound like you would appreciate them. [:o)] Originally posted by UnionPacificRR6737 Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply 123 Join our Community! 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QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed Your welcome I have ATSF zippo lighters & mugs & if I decide to get rid of them I will happy to ring you up as you sound like you would appreciate them. [:o)] Originally posted by UnionPacificRR6737 Ill buy them all for 50$ [:I] Reply Edit David_Telesha Member sinceNovember 2005 From: NYNH&H Norwich & Worcester MP21.7 774 posts Posted by David_Telesha on Thursday, December 29, 2005 9:18 AM QUOTE: Don't nock the AT&SF just because of the atitude of some of its fans. Of course I miss the Santa Fe! The Super Chief was arguably the USA's very best streamliner! You just contradicted yourself. Point made. David Telesha New Haven Railroad - www.NHRHTA.org Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:58 AM Hi from this side of the pond, I miss the old SF and one of the main reasons I came over to the States was to watch it, but I realise that the railroad was hurting financially and a lot of the major work could never have been done if the SF had never mergered with another RR. I must admit I would have happy to have seen it merge with Conrail before the split, kept the Red and Silver Warbonnet and been a true continental RR http://julian-sprott.fotopic.net Reply Edit daveklepper Member sinceJune 2002 20,029 posts Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:36 AM Don't nock the AT&SF just because of the atitude of some of its fans. Of course I miss the Santa Fe! The Super Chief was arguably the USA's very best streamliner! Even if the CZ had better scenery more domes and was thus more fun to ride. The Super Chief was kept in top shape right up to Amtrak and so was the El Cap. Whenever the AT&SF ran passsenger trains it ran them properly, even branch line locals were clean and had courteous crew people. It was one sharp operation in every respect, about as perfectly run a railroad as ever existed. And it certainly wasn't behind in innovating with truck-trailer on flatcar and containers and mechanical refrigerator cars and more. It air-conditioned coaches on long-distance trains long before most other railroads, certainly long before the PRR and NYC. Fred Harvery service in the dining cars. Very early CTC. When I was a kid in a New York grade school before WWII, we got our education about railroads from material suplied by the AT&SF, free to any school that wanted it. My mouth watered at pictures of a clean Pacific next to an E-3 A&B lashup. Admittedly its 4-8-4's weren't as pretty as the Daylights or the N&W J's, but they were still good looking engines, and very good perfomers. Its Hudsons had to take a place behind the Lackawanna's and the NKP's on looks, but they were as good as the much praised J's of the NYC, in my opinion, and again very good performers, as fast as any steam locomotive in the USA. Only one thing bothered me. The side-fishbelly underframes on some of the air-conditioned long distance remodeled coaches. Were these originally steel-framed wood cars that got replacement steel or steel covering the wood siding? (Mind you, I probably haven't seen one of these cars for about 50 years, so I am speaking from a very faded memory on this question.) Reply daveklepper Member sinceJune 2002 20,029 posts Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:33 AM Don't nock the AT&SF just because of the atitude of some of its fans. Of course I miss the Santa Fe! The Super Chief was arguably the USA's very best streamliner! Even if the CZ had better scenery more domes and was thus more fun to ride. The Super Chief was kept in top shape right up to Amtrak and so was the El Cap. Whenever the AT&SF ran passsenger trains it ran them properly, even branch line locals were clean and had courteous crew people. It was one sharp operation in every respect, about as perfectly run a railroad as ever existed. And it certainly wasn't behind in innovating with truck-trailer on flatcar and containers and mechanical refrigerator cars and more. It air-conditioned coaches on long-distance trains long before most other railroads, certainly long before the PRR and NYC. Fred Harvery service in the dining cars. Very early CTC. When I was a kid in a New York grade school before WWII, we got our education about railroads from material suplied by the AT&SF, free to any school that wanted it. My mouth watered at pictures of a clean Pacific next to an E-3 A&B lashup. Admittedly its 4-8-4's weren't as pretty as the Daylights or the N&W J's, but they were still good looking engines, and very good perfomers. Its Hudsons had to take a place behind the Lackawanna's and the NKP's on looks, but they were as good as the much praised J's of the NYC, in my opinion, and again very good performers, as fast as any steam locomotive in the USA. Only one thing bothered me. The side-fishbelly underframes on some of the air-conditioned long distance remodeled coaches. Were these originally steel-framed wood cars that got replacement steel or steel covering the wood siding? (Mind you, I probably haven't seen one of these cars for about 50 years, so I am speaking from a very faded memory on this question.) Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:15 AM Your welcome I have ATSF zippo lighters & mugs & if I decide to get rid of them I will happy to ring you up as you sound like you would appreciate them. [:o)] Originally posted by UnionPacificRR6737 Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply 123 Join our Community! 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Originally posted by UnionPacificRR6737
QUOTE: Don't nock the AT&SF just because of the atitude of some of its fans. Of course I miss the Santa Fe! The Super Chief was arguably the USA's very best streamliner!
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