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Sterling1
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Posted by Sterling1 on Sunday, December 25, 2005 9:27 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by trainboyH16-44

Wow, I see I'm not the only one to notice!
They did a newer cab, and put it on the ACes and M-2s, as well as some later SD70s and 90s. I think it was a horrible mistake, those cabs are soooo ugly!


Ok first of all, why would you hate a design if you haven't even actually gotten to appreciate it, eh?

Say if you're the railfan, wouldn't you appreciate a design that's been carefully crafted to help employees running the locomotive?

I mean granted this unit ain't some E-unit ( I like E-units) or an F59PHI ( like those too), but this is a freight unit that was designed for freight, designed with employee safety in mind ... don't ya think that eventually these units may become slug moms in the future?

If you're the conductor or the engineer, won't you like a viewing space to see your crew member?

AND yes I do like the SD70ACe for what it is ...

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 23, 2005 7:20 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by coborn35

I bet the ACe nose helps the older crewmembers because they dont have to bend down as far....



I believe that is one of the reasons for the design, but the main reasons were for the ergonomics in the cab and for the view of crewmembers riding on the front steps. Anotherwords, for comfort and safety.
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Posted by coborn35 on Thursday, December 22, 2005 11:11 PM
I bet the ACe nose helps the older crewmembers because they dont have to bend down as far....

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 22, 2005 9:56 PM
i feel special...i've never been quoted so many times. and beauty is in the eye of the beerholder [;)]
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Posted by Randy Stahl on Thursday, December 22, 2005 7:41 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by oltmannd

QUOTE: Originally posted by farmer03

man those ACe's are ugly


I think EMD hire LEGO to do the styling[:)]
By that you must mean the staff of six year olds in the R&D dept.... I agree.

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Posted by oltmannd on Thursday, December 22, 2005 7:17 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by farmer03

man those ACe's are ugly


I think EMD hire LEGO to do the styling[:)]

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Posted by csxengineer98 on Thursday, December 22, 2005 3:23 AM
they have a look that only the designer can love...
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 21, 2005 11:49 PM
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. SD70ACEs are beutiful in my opinion.
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Posted by fuzzybroken on Wednesday, December 21, 2005 11:11 PM
Straying a bit off the specifics of the topic, I had someone swear to me that he saw new SD90MAC-H's come through Butler on the UP in April or May of this year. I was pretty sure that there weren't any new 90's being made, but he was sure that they were big MACs. The newest SD70ACes sure do look like those 90MACs though!
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Posted by AlcoRS11Nut on Wednesday, December 21, 2005 7:44 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by farmer03

man those ACe's are ugly



ugly...but sweet looking
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 21, 2005 7:39 PM
Hog nose!!!
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Posted by miniwyo on Saturday, December 10, 2005 8:38 PM
Its a good change from the normal ones.

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Posted by DrummingTrainfan on Saturday, December 10, 2005 8:34 PM
Those noses certainly are...different. Why are those there like that anyway? Is it so the crew can get in and out without havint to duck (as far)?
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Posted by tmcc man on Saturday, December 10, 2005 7:13 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by farmer03

man those ACe's are ugly


I happen to like them. They are good looking, in my opinion.
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Posted by UPTRAIN on Saturday, December 10, 2005 7:10 PM
I like them because they are still trains. The SD70ACe cabs are more similar to the last SD90MAC's. The SD70M's had a less weird modified version of the standard cab that looked similar to the SD90's cab. Then they went back to the modified SD90 style cab for the SD70ACe/SD70M-2's.

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Posted by oskar on Saturday, December 10, 2005 5:28 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by farmer03

man those ACe's are ugly



I like the noses they look cool.




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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 10, 2005 1:44 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by trainboyH16-44

Wow, I see I'm not the only one to notice!
They did a newer cab, and put it on the ACes and M-2s, as well as some later SD70s and 90s. I think it was a horrible mistake, those cabs are soooo ugly!


Actually some 90MAC's had that version but none of the SD70M's have that cab. Some UP's and NS's have a in-between version.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=127368
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=127088

as compared to the version on some 90MAC's and the ACe's and M-2's
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=99058
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=126534
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 10, 2005 12:24 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by trainboyH16-44

Wow, I see I'm not the only one to notice!
They did a newer cab, and put it on the ACes and M-2s, as well as some later SD70s and 90s. I think it was a horrible mistake, those cabs are soooo ugly!


I like em!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They do look freaky though.
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Posted by trainboyH16-44 on Saturday, December 10, 2005 12:23 PM
Wow, I see I'm not the only one to notice!
They did a newer cab, and put it on the ACes and M-2s, as well as some later SD70s and 90s. I think it was a horrible mistake, those cabs are soooo ugly!

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 10, 2005 12:11 PM
Originally posted by coborn35

I was wondering why does CSX's SD70ACe's have two different noses, or is the picture incorrect?

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=127564

Thats no ACE, thats a MAC!!!![:p]
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 10, 2005 11:33 AM
man those ACe's are ugly
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 10, 2005 11:25 AM
nanaimo is right. 4817 is incorrectly classified as an ACe on Railpictures.
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Posted by nanaimo73 on Saturday, December 10, 2005 11:22 AM
4817 is a SD70MAC
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=181318
The SD70ACes start at 4831
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/locoList.aspx?id=CSX&Page=20
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SD70ACe nose question
Posted by coborn35 on Saturday, December 10, 2005 11:08 AM
I was wondering why does CSX's SD70ACe's have two different noses, or is the picture incorrect?

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=127564

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=123941

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