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QUOTE: Originally posted by ValleyX Well, Gates, it's kind of like the whistle posts, those walkways have been essentially the same since the switcher-type locomotives were first built, nigh onto fifty years now. Sometimes, you do what you have to do to get across the road. I have personally known two individuals that did fall off, one landed in a snowbank and I'm not sure what the other landed in but both lived to tell the tale and both railroaded again. Waltersrails, getting other engines isn't always an option and you don't get to make that decision, anyway.
QUOTE: Originally posted by waltersrails i would get more engines.
QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes There is not a fixed railing however, there is a chain. It is not tight (can't be, must allow for slack going around curves) but it is better than nothing.
QUOTE: Originally posted by TheAntiGates QUOTE: Originally posted by csxengineer98 thats why they put handrails on the cat walks... csx engineer When moving from one locomotive to the next, what is the proper prescribed 'safe' proceedure? I'm not sure if it was osha in general, or cal-osha since california protective laws are more stringent, but just in example, the PROPER means to move from one STATIONARY platform to another (as was impressed upon me during my last job out there) would require a safety lanyand be clamped onto one platform while you step to the other (since there is no protective rail spaning between the two.
QUOTE: Originally posted by csxengineer98 thats why they put handrails on the cat walks... csx engineer
QUOTE: Originally posted by TheAntiGates QUOTE: Originally posted by csxengineer98 thats why they put handrails on the cat walks... csx engineer Which makes perfect sense. OSHA, however, doesn't always make sense. When moving from one locomotive to the next, what is the proper prescribed 'safe' proceedure? I'm not sure if it was osha in general, or cal-osha since california protective laws are more stringent, but just in example, the PROPER means to move from one STATIONARY platform to another (as was impressed upon me during my last job out there) would require a safety lanyand be clamped onto one platform while you step to the other (since there is no protective rail spaning between the two. Clearly, this would be absurd, so I was half wondering if the RR's required a full stop. I guess they are not as safety/liabiliy paranoid as I had come to suspect?
Originally posted by TheAntiGates I suppose that if a conductor was blown off such a train, the RR would find a way to cite the employee for improper proceedure? Of Course............. Virlon Reply Edit csxengineer98 Member sinceOctober 2002 From: US 2,358 posts Posted by csxengineer98 on Monday, November 21, 2005 7:09 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by TheAntiGates QUOTE: Originally posted by rvos1979 Usually you can keep the train moving, I have taken a 40 mph walk back to restart units, it's not fun, but it's legal. Randy That was part of my curiousity...thanks. With the ever increasing focus on safety by the RR's, I was wondering if they required the train to be stopped. I suppose that if a conductor was blown off such a train, the RR would find a way to cite the employee for improper proceedure? thats why they put handrails on the cat walks... csx engineer "I AM the higher source" Keep the wheels on steel Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 21, 2005 12:02 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by rvos1979 Usually you can keep the train moving, I have taken a 40 mph walk back to restart units, it's not fun, but it's legal. Randy That was part of my curiousity...thanks. With the ever increasing focus on safety by the RR's, I was wondering if they required the train to be stopped. I suppose that if a conductor was blown off such a train, the RR would find a way to cite the employee for improper proceedure? Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 20, 2005 9:24 PM This has been a very interesting thread I have learned a lot... Thanks Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 20, 2005 9:18 PM Put her in the shop Reply Edit csxengineer98 Member sinceOctober 2002 From: US 2,358 posts Posted by csxengineer98 on Sunday, November 20, 2005 8:46 PM well..all depends on why it went down..if it is something that the conductor knows how to reset.. alot of times they will go back and find the issue.. reset it..and fire the unit up agin... but if its something that the conductor dosnt have a clue about.. yes..sometimes you do have to stop the train and find out what the problem is... if you have to stop for any reason..you tell the dispatcher what the problem is and that you have to stop..that way he can make a plan on what to do as far as running other trains... also it has a lot to do with the kind of train (tonnage) and the type of terriroty (hills or flat lands) will determan how critical it is for you to stop and get the unit started agin... if the unit realy isnt needed for power (the other units in your train can pull it without any real issues)... and its not put the unit at risk that it will freeze... you just keep going and at the first place you get held at..you go back and take a look... but it dose help to send someone back to atleast isolate the unit to shut that annoying alarm bell off..even if it cant be or donst need to be started right away... csx engineer "I AM the higher source" Keep the wheels on steel Reply rvos1979 Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Burlington, WI 1,418 posts Posted by rvos1979 on Sunday, November 20, 2005 8:20 PM Conductor usually goes back to restart the unit, unless conductor has an engineers card, and engineer wants to restart it. Usually you can keep the train moving, I have taken a 40 mph walk back to restart units, it's not fun, but it's legal. The only time I wouldn't restart the unit is if the crankcase pressure button popped, for obvious reasons. In the wintertime, you want to keep them running as much as possible to prevent freezing. Usually that means isolating the unit. As a side note, I have had an M.U. cable go bad enroute, then you have to stop the train or, in my case, let the hill stop you. Thankfully, I had a spare cable that day. Randy Randy Vos "Ever have one of those days where you couldn't hit the ground with your hat??" - Waylon Jennings "May the Lord take a liking to you and blow you up, real good" - SCTV Reply coborn35 Member sinceJanuary 2005 From: Duluth,Minnesota,USA 4,015 posts Posted by coborn35 on Sunday, November 20, 2005 7:54 PM Depending on the situation, you would not even have to restart I believe. If you have too, then the conductor would do it, and the train would keep moving throughout. Though if it failed in the first place, it may very well not start up again. Mechanical Department "No no that's fine shove that 20 pound set all around the yard... those shoes aren't hell and a half to change..." The Missabe Road: Safety First Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts When loco's fail Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 20, 2005 7:47 PM This is actually a safety question. Hypothetical situation, you are out on the rails rinning between 2 cities. A 4 engine consist, and engine #3 fails. Who goes back to restart it? Engineer? Conductor? do you stop the train during the process or do you keep the train moving throughout ? Reply Edit Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. 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QUOTE: Originally posted by TheAntiGates QUOTE: Originally posted by rvos1979 Usually you can keep the train moving, I have taken a 40 mph walk back to restart units, it's not fun, but it's legal. Randy That was part of my curiousity...thanks. With the ever increasing focus on safety by the RR's, I was wondering if they required the train to be stopped. I suppose that if a conductor was blown off such a train, the RR would find a way to cite the employee for improper proceedure?
QUOTE: Originally posted by rvos1979 Usually you can keep the train moving, I have taken a 40 mph walk back to restart units, it's not fun, but it's legal. Randy
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