Do any members act as moderaters?

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Murphy Siding




Um......had you considered trying to sort of limit yourself to talking about trains,since this is, after all, a train forum? I enjoy your train trivia posts. Most all of your posts that involve trains are interesting and entertaining too. However, when a post turns political,it generally turns ugly. You do have a choice to talk about trains, or fight the same fight, over and over about politics. The "he started it" defence by you, or anyone else is immature,at best. Let me clarify: there are hundreds of forums to argue poitics(or religion,or sports, or etc.....), there are fewer to talk about trains. So, let's talk trains.

Thanks

God bless you Murph!!

(lol)

[Anonymous]

Lets talk about something less political and more about trains. Like this. http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=47886

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Murphy Siding

RPRiebe: I'm not quite sure I understand the comment about *odd*. My intent was / is to get posters (in this case Lotus098) to redirect focus back to trains. My goal in this is quite selfish: I wi***o read lots of info about trains and railroads.[:)]. For better or worse, I asked him to start a different thread, because sometimes these get so off-topic that I forget what the thread was about.[B)]. How are you coming on finding info on early export diesels?

Murphy, I did not think you were odd, of course...[:p], but at other threads I find it odd, to use a happy word, that some who have not contributed, either way, suddenly butt in and want it closed--this does not apply to you.

The Locomotive International magazine I get has books on early diesels, not US, that looks to be very interesting.
You should check out their website and magazine, with todays dropping dollar it is still comparatively cheap, it covers locomotives that info on is hours of searching on the net, or only found in the odd used book or hobby shop that buys book collections.
Bob
I have not ordered the books yet, but they shipped my magazines in little over a week.

[Murphy Siding]

RPRiebe: I'm not quite sure I understand the comment about *odd*. My intent was / is to get posters (in this case Lotus098) to redirect focus back to trains. My goal in this is quite selfish: I wi***o read lots of info about trains and railroads.[:)]. For better or worse, I asked him to start a different thread, because sometimes these get so off-topic that I forget what the thread was about.[B)]. How are you coming on finding info on early export diesels?

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Murphy Siding

QUOTE: Originally posted by Lotus098

Sure thing, Murphy Siding! Now lets talk trains!

Start a thread about where you live, and what railroad operations are like there, and let this thread die.[xx(]

Ladies and gents:
I am very new to this forum,but I thought I would add my two cents (in todays money that is worth about how many mills) anyway.

Even though my late father said I have two states of mind, apathy and ***ed unreasonable, I think I can add, based on what I have seen at other forums.

If you want to see what moderated, but as loosely as possible brings, go read the Autoweek forum, you will see that todays youth as a whole are lacking in couth.
On the other hand, at road racing forums, moderating has become rather fascist, and where posting was, not as lively as this one, still quite lively, it now goes days at one of the originals where the mod. is the one who has to post a topic or thesilence is deafening.

The one thing that I find--odd--is what Murphy did in the post above this one; now Murphy has been a frequent poster on this one, but in other forums, some one will make the one's, one and only post , "contributing" to the thread, and it is to complain that the thread exists.
Some times the other posters will tell the one, if the one does not like it,do not read it, but too often the complainer will get it shut down.

To me the choice is simple, do as one mod. at Daily Sport Car does, if it is off topic, start a new thread in the proper column, or the more logical choice, if a thread annoys one,simply don't read it.

OK, the owner of my soap box is quickly approaching with a pitch fork, so I gotta run.
Bob

[Murphy Siding]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Lotus098

Sure thing, Murphy Siding! Now lets talk trains!

Start a thread about where you live, and what railroad operations are like there, and let this thread die.[xx(]

[Big_Boy_4005]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Murphy Siding

QUOTE: Originally posted by Lotus098

No, not some enjoyment out of arguing, I just can't stand it when people start saying things totally oposed to the way our country was founded[:D]. Yeah, I believe it strongly[:)].[?] So why is it my fault, the ones who latched on like a pit bull, were jeaton, and vsmith[?] At that point I just refused to back down, though I could have dropped it.[}:)] You will notice at the end who started the real name calling.[xx(]

Um......had you considered trying to sort of limit yourself to talking about trains,since this is, after all, a train forum? I enjoy your train trivia posts. Most all of your posts that involve trains are interesting and entertaining too. However, when a post turns political,it generally turns ugly. You do have a choice to talk about trains, or fight the same fight, over and over about politics. The "he started it" defence by you, or anyone else is immature,at best. Let me clarify: there are hundreds of forums to argue poitics(or religion,or sports, or etc.....), there are fewer to talk about trains. So, let's talk trains.

Thanks

Bingo Murph!!!

[Anonymous]

Sure thing, Murphy Siding! Now lets talk trains!

[Murphy Siding]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Lotus098

No, not some enjoyment out of arguing, I just can't stand it when people start saying things totally oposed to the way our country was founded[:D]. Yeah, I believe it strongly[:)].[?] So why is it my fault, the ones who latched on like a pit bull, were jeaton, and vsmith[?] At that point I just refused to back down, though I could have dropped it.[}:)] You will notice at the end who started the real name calling.[xx(]

Um......had you considered trying to sort of limit yourself to talking about trains,since this is, after all, a train forum? I enjoy your train trivia posts. Most all of your posts that involve trains are interesting and entertaining too. However, when a post turns political,it generally turns ugly. You do have a choice to talk about trains, or fight the same fight, over and over about politics. The "he started it" defence by you, or anyone else is immature,at best. Let me clarify: there are hundreds of forums to argue poitics(or religion,or sports, or etc.....), there are fewer to talk about trains. So, let's talk trains.

Thanks

[Anonymous]

No, not some enjoyment out of arguing, I just can't stand it when people start saying things totally oposed to the way our country was founded[:D]. Yeah, I believe it strongly[:)].[?] So why is it my fault, the ones who latched on like a pit bull, were jeaton, and vsmith[?] At that point I just refused to back down, though I could have dropped it.[}:)] You will notice at the end who started the real name calling.[xx(]

[Big_Boy_4005]

Well James, my understanding of what Bergie has posted in the past (like before you even joined) is, things like name calling and general fighting is not OK. Religion and politics are generally not cool, though politics on the Trains Magazine forum is better tolerated, than on the other forums, so long as it is germain to the train theme, and not just Republican vs Democrat bickering. I also have it on first hand experience that swearing is totally off limits. Isms like racism, sexism, etc are also bad.

I think part of where you get into trouble is when someone says something you don't agree with. Instead of ignoring it or respectfully disagreeing, you latch on like a pit bull, and the war of words starts. Most of the time it continues until somebody stops it. I stepped in the other night, and thought things were calmed down. I went out and mowed my lawn and went to dinner, and it started up again. That's when I turn to Bergie for a solution.

I'm not sure why you do this, but a couple of things come to mind. One possibility is you believe very strongly in things and are willing to defend your position to the death. Another is, you like getting a rise out of people, which is one of the definitions of trolling. I hope I don't need to remind you of the Dennis B incident.

Everyone here needs to remember that we are guests of our host, and our host is a company whose business is selling train related publications. They are very fair and liberal about what we can say, but there are limits.

Bottom line, have fun, but do it in a respectful manner, and nobody will bug you.

[Anonymous]

So just for clarifictaion (and to give this thread meaning) what is considered flaming. Is politic always flaming, or just when some chuckle-head starts calling you names?

[Anonymous]

I think I found the new home of popcorn: http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=3&TOPIC_ID=47790

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Big_Boy_4005

Guys, I love the popcorn smiley, but I have real mixed feelings about it's use.

On the one hand it is an indication that you don't want to get involved in an ugly topic, but you are watching.

On the other hand, each time you post to that topic, you bring it back to the top of the pile. So, while you are not directly contributing to the problem, you are indirectly perpetuating it. See the issue?

We ( I mean that it is in everyone's best interest ) want problem topics to die, quickly and quietly. If we can't do it ourselves, we turn to Bergie, and he is appreciative, and responds quickly.

The ultimate goal is that we need to learn to police ourselves. It would be much more constructive if you would simply say sonething like "Please stop, before there's more trouble", rather than egging it on with popcorn and beer.

So, what do you say? Why not step up and be a good citizen in cyber space, and not leave it up to a few people to look like the bad guys.

The popcorn smiley is funny.

Laughter is the best medicine.

And it can help to drive home to flamers how silly they're being.

Sincerely,
Daniel Parks

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by IRONROOSTER

[i]

Ah yes[:D], but with just the printed word it's sometimes hard to tell.
Enjoy
Paul

Yes, true.

but it gets funny sometimes. I've been at this for a good while, and moderate other forums that I and my friends run lock stock and barrel... we set the rules, and generally rule #1 is that there i are no rules.

Knowing each other like a book, some of the mods and i often take our difference to the next level, just for kicks we always end up being friends over it, cause we know it's all in fun.

every once in a while, a tenderfooted newbie comes along, who is shocked at the level of heat on the air, and thinks they are going to be a peace maker. It's fun to play like that.

Especially since a newbie will usually side with whichever of the 2 of us would be friendly to them first.

So, you got this new guy thinking he's being GREAT and that he's on your side, so what you do? you get yout opponent to start beating up on him first, then, you turn against the meddeler, so it's the 2 moderators beating up on the new guy, acting like he started the whole "fight"..

So, then the newbie usually starts whining about "doesn't this forum have any moderation?" Not realizing that he's been "moderated" for the past hour or so.....

Lotta fun, and teaches a valuable lesson to people who need to mind their own business, but just cant seem to get over the hump[8D]

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