GM D-D-D-D locomotive

[Big_Boy_4005]

QUOTE: Originally posted by nanaimo73

Elliot, the DDA40X was not a cowl, it had walkways on the sides.
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=40895
The only UP cowls were the early E and F units and the Turbines.

Oops, I guess I never really understood the meaning of cowl. [:I]I think I get it now. I see what M636C means now. My guess is that it was an easier edit to lose the hand rails.

[nanaimo73]

Elliot, the DDA40X was not a cowl, it had walkways on the sides.
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=40895
The only UP cowls were the early E and F units and the Turbines.

[CopCarSS]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Big_Boy_4005

QUOTE: Originally posted by CopCarSS

He's playing with a picture that isn't his, too. That shot is either Don Ball Jr's or Jim Boyd's out of America's Railroads, the Second Generation. I guess copyrights don't mean much anymore.

I wouldn't worry about the copyright for a couple of reasons.

First the original photo is probably old enough for the rights to have expired, yes it could have been renewed.

Second, while the original image wasn't the property of the person who created this, the modifications have created a new image. The only problem might come if the person who altered the original tried to copyright the new image.

I see it as a harmless and clever gag, meant to fool the unwitting.

Perhaps it's just a conversation piece, in which case it's working, because we are talking about it.

I guess I don't feel the same way. If the modifier had wished to make his modifications, I think it would have been in good taste to ask permission. He may not have had shots of Centennials, because they're hard to find, but he could have easily photophopped soem 9043AC's or something ( which I've seen done, too.

Just a photographer's perspective, I guess.

Chris
Denver, CO

[Big_Boy_4005]

QUOTE: Originally posted by nanaimo73

QUOTE: Originally posted by TheAntiGates

Elliot,
Could this run on your layout ?[:D]

Dale, I don't think I could find enough straight track to even set a model like that on the rails. Maybe I could park it on the second track by the Amtrak depot.[;)]

M636C, the Centennials were cowl units. The cab seems to be borrowed directly from the FP45, which was produced at Santa Fe's request a couple years earlier. You might be thinking of the DD35's, which had "classic" cab.

[CSSHEGEWISCH]

Although this stretched Centennial in its various incarnations is obviously meant as a gag, it does bring to mind George Henderson's designs for quadruplex and quintuplex steam locomotives. They were serious designs which were outgrowths of the Triplexes but were hopelessly impractical since they would have used steam fasted than the boiler could make it.

[M636C]

QUOTE: Originally posted by adrianspeeder

QUOTE: Originally posted by Big_Boy_4005

They did actually contain a major innovation, modular electrical controls, technically making them Dash 2's.

Thats what did em in. The whole point was to cut down on complex control systems by controling two prime movers at once. But the switch to easier modular controls made that a moot point.

Adrianspeeder

Adrian,

I think I've missed the point you were trying to make here. As far as I can tell a DDA40X was electrically a pair of GP40-2s that were permanently in multiple unit - the front engine drove the front truck and the rear engine drove the rear truck as if they were two four axle units.

How did using modular controls affect the complexity of the control system? How did this feature lead to an early demise, as opposed to the practical problems of a unit more than 98 feet long that had twice the failure rate of a GP40-2 (or more relevantly for UP an SD40-2)?

On another subject, the multiple times Photo Shopped DD-DD-DD seems to have become a cowl unit somewhere in all the stretching.

M636C

[adrianspeeder]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Big_Boy_4005

They did actually contain a major innovation, modular electrical controls, technically making them Dash 2's.

Thats what did em in. The whole point was to cut down on complex control systems by controling two prime movers at once. But the switch to easier modular controls made that a moot point.

Adrianspeeder

[Anonymous]

it's a little hard on curves, but it more than makes up for it by being extra gentle on bridges

[nanaimo73]

QUOTE: Originally posted by TheAntiGates

Elliot,
Could this run on your layout ?[:D]

[Big_Boy_4005]

QUOTE: Originally posted by GP40-2

QUOTE: Originally posted by Big_Boy_4005

QUOTE: Originally posted by electro-ortcele

To use this oportunity, what is the longes non-photoshoped diesel locomotive made so far? Is it DD40X?

For a rigid frame, I'm pretty sure the DD40X was the king. I understand they didn't last long mainly due to the dual prime movers. If one broke down, the good one was stuck in the shop while it was being fixed. The D trucks didn't help either. UP figured out that 2 normal units like an SD or GP gave them better flexibility.

Actually, they were very successful. Most DD40s racked up between 2 and 3 million miles of service before they were retired.

Well they may have been used until the end of their usefull life, but if I'm not mistaken they were never reordered. They represent the last D truck models, and the end of the dual prime mover concept.

A little research revealed that 47 "Centennials" were built from 4/69 to 9/71. It's predecessor the DD35 was originally intended to be a cabless unit. 30 DD35B's were made, then 15 DD35A followed 7 months later. Some of the DD35's went to SP. All of the DDA40X's were special order by UP. They did actually contain a major innovation, modular electrical controls, technically making them Dash 2's.

What's really funny is they were considered road switchers.[:p]

[Big_Boy_4005]

QUOTE: Originally posted by TheAntiGates

This just keeps getting better and better. One more incarnation, and it will force the screen to scroll.[:p]

Yes, but can it go around a curve?

[Anonymous]

[Train Guy 3]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Lotus098

I took one look a that and said "This is as phony as a three dollar bill"

There no such thing as a three dollar bill? But I just got two of them today with Bill Clinton on them.

[Anonymous]

Someone had photoshop and a lot of time on their hands

[;)]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by adrianspeeder



Adrianspeeder

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[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by espeefoamer

QUOTE: Originally posted by trainman2244

Oh yeah! [}:)] I found this in Happyland on the Choo-Choo Mc. Railroad
[:p]

Where is the fuel tank on that [censored] loco?

I think it's solar powered.

[espeefoamer]

QUOTE: Originally posted by trainman2244

Oh yeah! [}:)] I found this in Happyland on the Choo-Choo Mc. Railroad
[:p]

Where is the fuel tank on that [censored] loco?

[adrianspeeder]

Not on yard duty.... hahahah

Adrianspeeder

[GP40-2]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Big_Boy_4005

QUOTE: Originally posted by electro-ortcele

To use this oportunity, what is the longes non-photoshoped diesel locomotive made so far? Is it DD40X?

For a rigid frame, I'm pretty sure the DD40X was the king. I understand they didn't last long mainly due to the dual prime movers. If one broke down, the good one was stuck in the shop while it was being fixed. The D trucks didn't help either. UP figured out that 2 normal units like an SD or GP gave them better flexibility.

Actually, they were very successful. Most DD40s racked up between 2 and 3 million miles of service before they were retired.

[bnsfkline]

What would the model designation be for this FAKE unit?

GWB40-2? (George W. Bush, 4,000,000 HP, -2 technology?)

[adrianspeeder]

You know it is 600 bucks? Worth it to me though.

Adrianspeeder

[Anonymous]

I gotta learn photo shop.

[Anonymous]

That's what point-and-shoot shootesrs always say because they don't control their exposure.

Many great photographs with great artistic effect can be made by putting sun in your shot.

Of course if you simply want an object to be seen clearly, then it is better to put sun behind.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by trainman2244

Oh yeah! [}:)] I found this in Happyland on the Choo-Choo Mc. Railroad
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Next time you take a picture, you really should have the sun behind you, just a suggestion. Nice shot, have you submitted to RailPictures.Net? I would think it's a winner [tup]

[Anonymous]

Oh yeah! [}:)] I found this in Happyland on the Choo-Choo Mc. Railroad
[:p]

[adrianspeeder]

Found another pic to describe this topic.



Adrianspeeder

[bnsfkline]

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[espeefoamer]

Since a UP locomotive was used in this faked photo,maybe this artist should worry about a lawsuit from the Borg[xx(]!I'd like to see this engine try to go around a curve[:o)].

[nanaimo73]

The cowl carbody appears to be made from a F40PH.