"little joe"

[arbfbe]

It is sort of close to the MILW Little Joes but it is not entirely accurate in the location of many of the controls. I would say it may be from a GE locomotive but not one of the MILW or CSS&SB units.

See photos in Richard Steinheimer's "Electric Way Across the Mountains" or Noel Holley's "Milwaukee Road Electrics".

[Anonymous]

And here is the actual diagram of "little joe" cab. Posted by a member of train-sim forum

http://forums.flightsim.com/ts/user_files/11981.jpg

[Anonymous]

Here is an interesting picture:

http://www.pell.portland.or.us/~efbrazil/v8_engineer.html

this is a cockpit of a similar electric locomotive as little joe, the cockpit seems to be almost the same as in typical diesel cab locomotives.
I assume this cockpit was used in all GE cab units, diesel or electric.

This must be how the cockpit of little joe looks like too

[espeefoamer]

There three Little Joes preserved[:D]. The Milwaukee unit in Deer Lodge,and CSS&SB Joes in the museum near North East PA,and at the IRM in Union IL[:)]!
The Little Joe at IRM is operable,as I recently saw a video of IRM and in one shot the Little Joe is running past the camera[8D]!

[arbfbe]

The CSS&SB crews referred to them as 800 engines and not Little Joes.

[PBenham]

The "other " Little Joe" is a few miles from its birthplace at North East PA, at a former LS&MS/NYC depot there,operated ( and very well,by the way) by the Lake Shore Chapter NRHS. They also have a former NYC U25B on display, with other "goodies". It also is a safe place to watch CSX and NS roll by without the nagging fear of being hassled. (D'oh! The Little Joe is CSS&SB 803.)

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by MichaelSol

QUOTE: Originally posted by electro-ortcele

yea I've seen that parked on, I have a whole bunch of pictures of little joe on my comp, but I am really currious as to how this thing sounded, or how the cockpit looked like

Well, it was an electric, not much sound. You felt it, you didn't hear it.

Best regards, Michael Sol

Electrics can sometimes be suprizingly loud for...umm.. for electrics.

[MichaelSol]

http://www.trainweb.org/milwaukee

[MichaelSol]

QUOTE: Originally posted by electro-ortcele

yea I've seen that parked on, I have a whole bunch of pictures of little joe on my comp, but I am really currious as to how this thing sounded, or how the cockpit looked like

Well, it was an electric, not much sound. You felt it, you didn't hear it.

Best regards, Michael Sol

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by csmith9474

I especially liked the shot of a Little Joe runnin with the Geeps.[^]

yea, that's a sight

[csmith9474]

I especially liked the shot of a Little Joe runnin with the Geeps.[^]

[Anonymous]

oh, didn't see your edit..

there are some I don't have yet, thanks for the links

[Anonymous]

thanks

yea I've seen that parked on, I have a whole bunch of pictures of little joe on my comp, but I am really currious as to how this thing sounded, or how the cockpit looked like

[csmith9474]

I thought that this was kind of interesting, if you haven't already seen it. I figured it was time to get serious.[:D]

http://www.hollenback.net/index.php/DeerLodgeLittleJoe
http://www.highironillustrations.com/railfan_specification/spec_littlejoe.html
http://www.brian894x4.com/MilwaukeeRoad.html
http://www.angelfire.com/mt/sd40/page10.html
http://www.milwest.org/miscphotos.htm

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by csmith9474

http://bonanza1.com/gallery/Joe/Untitled64

[V]

[csmith9474]

http://bonanza1.com/gallery/Joe/Untitled64

[Anonymous]

is there any media about this locomotive other than a few bad scans that are circulating the net, and a few 90's photos?

By media, I mean things like sound recordings, photos of interior etc.

[Kurn]

The CSS&SB Little Joe that was at the B&O Museum is at the Lake Shore Railway Museum in North East,Pa.It's restored quite nicely.

[csmith9474]

QUOTE: Originally posted by electro-ortcele

QUOTE: Originally posted by csmith9474

I just wouldn't have wanted to see the Reds get 'em.

what difference does it make? It's not like they could use it as weapons.
If the shipment was made, perhapse after the wall and socialism had fallen, there would be more places where you could go and see a little joe than there is today

I guess I have been told.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by csmith9474

At least the commies never got their hands on 'em.

As a revenge Russians run about 20000 copies of ALCO diesel engine in various locos ^^

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by csmith9474

I just wouldn't have wanted to see the Reds get 'em.

what difference does it make? It's not like they could use it as weapons.
If the shipment was made, perhapse after the wall and socialism had fallen, there would be more places where you could go and see a little joe than there is today

[csmith9474]

I just wouldn't have wanted to see the Reds get 'em.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by csmith9474

At least the commies never got their hands on 'em.

well, americans would have gotten money for them , it's not like russians would steal them, so it is a mutual loss

[csmith9474]

At least the commies never got their hands on 'em.

[ndbprr]

One from the South Shore is at the Illinois Railroad Museum. I remember it well having seen it switch the Gary and East Chicago area. The pantograph bearings must have been warn toward the end as it had a tendency to lean a little in the oppsite direction from movement.

[CSSHEGEWISCH]

I've seen photos on other websites that show the Paulista Little Joes were re-equipped with Faiveley (single-arm) pantographs, a most interesting arrangement.

Also with a 2-D+D-2 wheel arrangement: Baldwin Centipedes.

[arbfbe]

Three of the GE built electrics survive in the US. The MILW E-70 which was the demo unit GE 750 sent by GE to sell all 20 units to the MILW. One of the CSS&SB units is in Union, Il and another is in Baltimore. None are operative.

The wheel arrangement is 2-D+D-2, electrical terminology for a 4-8+8-4 type locomotive with two idler axles, four powered axles articulated with four powered axles and two more idler axles.

Five of the units went to the Paulista RR in Brazil and while they operated beyond the MILW and CSS&SB units I believe all of them are now retired as well.

[nanaimo73]

The Milwaukee Road (CMSP&P) Little Joes stopped running in 1974 and the Chicago, Southshore and South Bend Joes lasted until December 1980 or January 1981. No body seems to know very much about the 5 that went to Brazil.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by adrianspeeder

I like the electrics. Course I'm an electrical engineering major...

Adrianspeeder

good for you! I'm currently a student of electrical engineering too [:D]