I&O tanker car derailed minor evacuation under way

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[mudchicken]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Cheviot Hill

Update: Westlake/I&O setting up claims process for those affected. Class action lawsuits are being filed. Westlake is paying for lodging for those that are evacuated. Niether company have taken blame but sounds like it's around the corner.

If the news bozo's invited themselves into the railyard at Norwood w/o an escort, hope FRA/OSHA go after the bozo's for violating 49CFR214 (They are not exempt, no matter what they think - a few $10,000 "Willful Violation" fines look like just the ticket!)

[Cheviot Hill]

Update: Westlake/I&O setting up claims process for those affected. Class action lawsuits are being filed. Westlake is paying for lodging for those that are evacuated. Niether company have taken blame but sounds like it's around the corner.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by mudchicken

Why NS? Consignee of the car has been sitting on the car for 9 months. All NS did was lease track storage space to the consignee to avoid demurage. Railroad did as expected, railcar performed as expected, car is venting because of chemical reaction caused by chemical stabilizer wearing off and heating-up the lading. Go after the consignee/ plastics company for poor product material management. [:(!][:(!][:(!]

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050829/NEWS01/308290006

The yellow press and local politicians will be too dumb to figure this out.

For those too lazy to click:

QUOTE: A rail car tanker containing 24,000 gallons of styrene started leaking styrene gas about 6 p.m. Sunday and starting leaking again this morning. The tank belongs to the Westlake Styrene Co., of Sulfur, La. Neither the rail nor the car are affiliated with Norfolk Southern rail line.

Looks like NS is off the hook, good!

Now this line I liked [^]

QUOTE: Luken said when he called the company, "they just go 'humina humina.'"

Typical over-reaction though, notice the photo of the women, like she has lost a family memebr, sheez!, it's a tank car that will probably get vented and moved.

[Cheviot Hill]

Hey Brian. You know Channel 5 (WLWT) is now reporting about other "tank cars" and what they contain. They visited a Norwood yard a I&O facility. Now the city of Norwood is concerned about those tank cars. They found one that contains a flammable substance. Wow thats scarry! Katrina who? Non stop coverage of "the terror on the tracks".

[louisnash]

You should have heard Channel 9 news the other night when this all began. The reporter was going on and on that someone needed to get answers on just why there would be that type of material in a tank car.

My, how they would be surprised if they only knew a 1/4 of what went through the city by rails.

I like the opinions of Mudchicken. Cincinnati hasn't changed. They have killing after killing in Over-the Rhine and West End and all the city is worried about is moving Fountain Square a few feet. The city is really getting out of control.

Makes it nice to to be in Northern KY.

Brian (KY)

[mudchicken]

You expected the yellow press journalists to be on the ball?

[CShaveRR]

Know what ticks me off?

Tanker car!

Some style manual somewhere says that "tanker car" is correct, so that's all you ever hear from the media--print or broadcast.

They're tank cars! Always have been, always will be. Just ask the folks at the Union Tanker Car Company!

Sorry to be so cantankerous this morning. Tank you very much.

[mudchicken]

Updates:

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050830/NEWS01/308190005

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050830/NEWS01/508300355/1056

Indiana & Ohio as well as NS or CSX moved the car, but it still looks like the shipper (Westlake) and the team track/transfer/crossdock operator (Kinder-Morgan/Queen City Terminals) fumbled on the handoff. If there was no constructive placement, RA/I&O would be ringing phones off the hook trying to find a spot for the car. Any bets that NTSB gets involved here just due to size and impact of the incident.???

Interesting.

Wonder if UniHead Ed has seen cars in Houston stored as loads for this long?

(I'd bet a hot fudge sundae that he has seen similar things...I know many stories about lost boxcars [found one of those missing for 9 years in LA at Lairport while inspecting backtracks] )

The car had not moved in 5 months? If Kinder Morgan/QCT had not leased track storage space, that's one whopper of a demurage bill.!!!

Interesting.

[Cheviot Hill]

QUOTE: Originally posted by mudchicken

QUOTE: Originally posted by Cheviot Hill

Your right and thanks for the Enquirer posting. Their looking at everbody. Who delivered it and where was it going? Their looking at legal action wherever they can find it. The I&O, NS, the other companies involved with this car are all being looked at. Bad thing about this is, with all the barge traffic being held up and the disruption of peoples lives. Some companies are going to pay a heavy price for this accident. And yes it should be the company you mentioned. Not the railroads. But knowing this city, they'll go after anybody for political capital. Just my opinion.

And just to think that once apon a time, PRR had a model humpyard at Undercliff and PRR was less than equal to some of the other railroads in town. Cshaverr lives on the the other end of the line from the late-great Cheviot Hill that I remember well a a college student running level circuits up and down that thing (Gest Street to Western Hills Shopping Center and back)[:D]

Wouldn't disagree with you, especially if the Charter-Dummycrats are still in control. Grew up diagonally across town in the 'burbs (many years ago) from where this happened and it's not like they've had witch-hunts in the Queen City before. (Remember, they did loose Jerry Springer on the country[}:)]....and yes, I do remember a certain incident paid for with a check at a certain Erlanger LampLighter Motel[V])

Yes the same people are in control. Thats why I left the city. Our mayor/cogressman, Charlie Luken son of long time mayor/congressman Tom Luken. Is heading up this witch hunt.
Ah, the old Cheviot Hill. Mountain style railroading in a midwestern city. Had a lot of fun on that line with some family and friends. Thats where it all begain for me.

[mudchicken]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Cheviot Hill

Your right and thanks for the Enquirer posting. Their looking at everbody. Who delivered it and where was it going? Their looking at legal action wherever they can find it. The I&O, NS, the other companies involved with this car are all being looked at. Bad thing about this is, with all the barge traffic being held up and the disruption of peoples lives. Some companies are going to pay a heavy price for this accident. And yes it should be the company you mentioned. Not the railroads. But knowing this city, they'll go after anybody for political capital. Just my opinion.

And just to think that once apon a time, PRR had a model humpyard at Undercliff and PRR was less than equal to some of the other railroads in town. Cshaverr lives on the the other end of the line from the late-great Cheviot Hill that I remember well a a college student running level circuits up and down that thing (Gest Street to Western Hills Shopping Center and back)[:D]

Wouldn't disagree with you, especially if the Charter-Dummycrats are still in control. Grew up diagonally across town in the 'burbs (many years ago) from where this happened and it's not like they've had witch-hunts in the Queen City before. (Remember, they did loose Jerry Springer on the country[}:)]....and yes, I do remember a certain incident paid for with a check at a certain Erlanger LampLighter Motel[V])

[ericsp]

If they would have unloaded that car in time, that styrene could have been used to make model trains, polystyrene is a common plastic in the model railroad industry.

[Cheviot Hill]

Your right and thanks for the Enquirer posting. Their looking at everbody. Who delivered it and where was it going? Their looking at legal action wherever they can find it. The I&O, NS, the other companies involved with this car are all being looked at. Bad thing about this is, with all the barge traffic being held up and the disruption of peoples lives. Some companies are going to pay a heavy price for this accident. And yes it should be the company you mentioned. Not the railroads. But knowing this city, they'll go after anybody for political capital. Just my opinion.

[mudchicken]

Why NS? Consignee of the car has been sitting on the car for 9 months. All NS did was lease track storage space to the consignee to avoid demurage. Railroad did as expected, railcar performed as expected, car is venting because of chemical reaction caused by chemical stabilizer wearing off and heating-up the lading. Go after the consignee/ plastics company for poor product material management. [:(!][:(!][:(!]

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050829/NEWS01/308290006

The yellow press and local politicians will be too dumb to figure this out.

[Cheviot Hill]

Update... The tanker car has not derailed. It is caring a chemical called Styrene which has been sitting in the siding for 9 months. The tanker car had a preserver in it that kept this from happening but lasts 60 days. They are reporting that it is on Norfolk Southern tracks. The tanker car is still leaking at this time. According to reports, the tanker was by itself and a valve on the top of the tank car has failed.They have evacuated a 1 mile radius around the sight. The officials on site are worried about a possible explosion. The tanker had 22000 gallons of Styrene in it. They have also shut down all river traffic.
Sounds like NS is going to have their hands full with law suits after this.

[Cheviot Hill]

An I&O tanker car has derailed on the eastern side of Cincinnati. Location is western edge of what used to be Undercliff Yard. So far the police have evacuated 15 homes and have issued a "shelter in place" until further notice around Lunkin Airport. Local news is reporting that they are not sure what the tanker car was carrying.