Do you want to save locomotives?

[bnsf4737]

BNSF-SDF45's, SDF40-2's are being scrapped by Kansas metal recyclers.

B30-7AB's 52 have been scrapped by Schmotzer Steel in Portland Oregon.

Cartier- Almost all alcos and mlw are heading for scrapped by a contracter in Port Cartier.

Please notify me if and railroad is going to retire/scrapped there locomotives.

People all of the organization (including mine) want to save these locomotives. Whoever's out there, do you believe in preserving locomotives? Or are you the devil and want to destroy them? let me hear your comments and see what we can do.

-another question are there and B30-7AB's alived? All I know is one was sold to Right Cooperative Association in Wright City, KS.

-Thanks

[dknelson]

Well we can't save everything. What is important is for museums like the Illinois Railroad Museum in Union Illinois to make it known to a friendly railroad that it has an interest. They seem to have a good working relationship with a few generous railroads some of which have executives who understand that they do have equipment of exceptional mechanical interest. But the way to keep the railroad friendly is to limit the requests to truly historic stuff and demonstrate a responsible attitude towards the stuff that is donatedThe Illinois RR Museum has an exceptional deisel collection (and steam and electric and trolley) and I advise anyone to visit it if they can

Dave Nelson

[cbq9911a]

It's not just the museums that can make it known. Individuals can do it, too. You just need to make it known to the railroad and to the museum.

You can contact the Illinois Railway Museum (or any other museum) to see if they would be interested in accepting a donation. The first step is to ask for "fishing" authority. Second step is to actually make the donation. IRM has two requirements:

1. What is the significance of the locomotive?
2. Who is going to pay for the track space ($70/ft)?

If you can meet the two requirements, IRM's board would be very interested. If the locomotive runs, that's even better.

Other museums have different rules.

[wabash1]

First the railroad owns these units if they want to junk them then so be it. I cant see someone owning one of these units and sitting them their back yards. And if the museums dont want them so be it. i dont see you getting so upset about people junking cars and pick up trucks. cars with more value than these old engines. and if the railroad can get a good price for scrape on these and get something for the property they own then so be it.

[BRAKIE]

Usually when a railroad scraps out a engine it is worthless even as a trade in or can't be sold to another railroad,short line or rebuilder due to it's condition. More often then not a junker and stripped down and good for nothing except the scrap value..There is alot more worth saving then clunker locomotives such as stations long abandon and in danger of being torn down.

I have seen more then my share of rusted locomotives sitting in museums due to the lack of funds and yes,interest of the members...You add more clunkers that can't be fixed with out 1000s of dollars rusting away and the frist thing you know the NIMBYs jump in and sue the museum to get rid of them or fix them as it is a public eye sore,health hazard and ect and takes away from the value of their property.Then the museum must get a lawyer to fight the law suit taking what little funds they do have.Then some judge agrees with the NIMBYs and that is that.Finish.

I feel it is better to have a few locomotives on hand that is in good condition then all kinds sitting there rusting and looking awfull.