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Posted by GP40-2 on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 11:10 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by M636C

In 1977 I recall seeing the oldest EMD locomotive, an early prototype SC, I think, still in service on what I recall as a US Steel property in the general area of Pittsburgh. I'm sorry about not being more precise but it was a while ago in an unfamiliar area. It was painted red and yellow and had had a 567 engine of some sort installed to replace the 8-201A, but it still had the original GE electrical gear. I'd be surprised if it was still there working now, but was it preserved?

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Since almost all the former U.S. Steel property around Pittsburgh has been demolished and converted into high tech office parks, shopping malls, or waterfront luxury housing (they even reclaimed a former U.S. Steel slag dump in the east end of Pittsburgh and turned it into a neighborhood of $2 million houses) I doubt if much of anything was preserved.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 8:35 PM
I know that the Portola RR Museum has one of the twin engine ALCo IR GE boxcabs but I'm not sure if it runs..
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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 7:54 AM
Mudchicken is probably on the mark. RELCO has long been well known for its ancient but still running Alco switchers (including one High Hood) which it leases to factories, grain elevators, etc.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 6:39 AM
The Alco-GE-IR boxcab switcher which until recently was in operation in the IR plant in Phillipsburg NJ is still operable and iirc is at the NJ railroad museum. It dates from the 1920s. It is only slightly younger than CNJ 300 which is at the B&O museum but has not operated in decades.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 6:33 AM
Aside from the Geeps Randy mentioned above, BNSF is still running some early GP and SD -9's around the country.
I saw a GP-9B on a BNSF transfer fron Thomas to Norris yards in Birmingham recently.
I'm guessing the SOO and BNSF units are are the oldest on the Class1 freight railroads.
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Posted by locomutt on Monday, May 30, 2005 10:50 PM
We have several GE 44-Tonners working some chemical plants here in
our area. I'm not sure of their built dates,but remember the 44Ts were
originally built between 1940-55.

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Posted by gfjwilmde on Monday, May 30, 2005 8:36 PM
I know Amtrak has 3 SW-1 still operating. 1 in Wilmington, DE and 2 in Washington, DC.


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Posted by BNSFGP38 on Monday, May 30, 2005 8:02 PM
Acuteally he is right. They are going to run it with a modern power plant and have the winton as a travelling display.
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Posted by mudchicken on Monday, May 30, 2005 8:00 PM
What about the Alco HH-600's still out there in industrial service? Or the odd Plymouth and Porter mice out there?
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Posted by jockellis on Monday, May 30, 2005 7:30 PM
G'day, Y'all,
Dutchrailnut, are you sure about the Cat? On the Flying Yankee website they were talking about rebuilding the Winton. One thing told of getting new piston rings for the Winton engine. Of course, installing a new Cat would be a better idea.
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Monday, May 30, 2005 7:16 PM
The Flying Yankee despite still being in existence and being restored, has not operated or run in 25 years or more.
so it mostly don't even count in this lineup of power.
even if the Flying yankee returns it will not be driven by original engine but by a Caterpillar Diesel.
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Posted by M636C on Monday, May 30, 2005 6:44 PM
In 1977 I recall seeing the oldest EMD locomotive, an early prototype SC, I think, still in service on what I recall as a US Steel property in the general area of Pittsburgh. I'm sorry about not being more precise but it was a while ago in an unfamiliar area. It was painted red and yellow and had had a 567 engine of some sort installed to replace the 8-201A, but it still had the original GE electrical gear. I'd be surprised if it was still there working now, but was it preserved?

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Posted by BNSFGP38 on Monday, May 30, 2005 5:41 PM
In a big stadium voice:

The Flying Yankee.............

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Posted by coborn35 on Monday, May 30, 2005 5:08 PM
HAHA, i beat you all!
Just kidding, but...........


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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Monday, May 30, 2005 1:39 PM
if we just mean running or running in daily mainline service ??
even some of first generation S-1's and RS-1's are running but in Museums on as needed and wanted .
Diesels in daily service, the MNCR F10's the GP8 and GP9 both of NYC heritage are probably the oldest units in mainline service.
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Posted by eolafan on Monday, May 30, 2005 11:28 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by chad thomas

Isn't the original FT demonstrator still running? I saw it at railfair 91' in Sacramento.


[:)] I just saw the original FT at the National Museum of Transportation in St. Louis and it looks pretty darned good. They have it on display under a shed roof but it is a little dusty and could use a rinse with a hose. I am not sure if it still runs but I suspect the answer is yes.
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Posted by chad thomas on Monday, May 30, 2005 10:49 AM
Isn't the original FT demonstrator still running? I saw it at railfair 91' in Sacramento.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 30, 2005 10:36 AM
Metro North runs 3 F10's which were rebuilt by ICG from exGM&O F3A's 804a, 809a, and 880a, originally built in 12/1946 and mid-1947.
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Posted by Randy Stahl on Sunday, May 29, 2005 7:57 PM
We have an F-3. I think the build date is 1947. We are also runninga few GP-7s from 1953 or so.
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Oldest diesel
Posted by tatans on Sunday, May 29, 2005 6:39 PM
Does anyone have any idea what railroad in North America has the oldest diesel locomotive??? or I guess it can be a company etc etc. even one running in a preservation state or museum --- just the oldest running.

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