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Run-throughs
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 3:47 PM
What determines when a locomotive "runs through" on a foreign railroad? I have a glimmer of a notion that it's payback for something-but what?
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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 4:02 PM
The railroads have negotiated between themselves 'Run Trhough Agreements' that pertain to particular trains carrying particular block classifications or particular commoditys....The power that is on the train from its origin on one railroad continues on the train to it destination on the other railroad. Once the power gets to it destination location it gets distrubuted like any other power at that location.

Most, if not all, Class I's have negotiated 'Horsepower Hour Agreements' to account for having power on each other's property....a 3000 HP SD-40 on a carriers property for 1 hour constitutes 3000 Horsepower Hours. The Carriers computer systems keep track of the various Horsepower Hour account based upon Interchange records that get generated when engines and trains cross property lines.

Locomotive Management personnel will review the Horsepower Hour accounts and attempt to manage the locomotives with their area of responsibility to do two things....move the traffic and secondly balance the horsepower hours accounts.

A locomotive of a carrier may not be carried in that carriers Horsepower Hour account....a NS engine delivered to CSX by UP would be in the UP horsepower hour account, not the NS. Confusions like this are among the things that computers can easily keep track of.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 4:39 PM
So, a UP stack train from Oakland runs through to New Jersey. NS runs another train from that point back to Oakland using UP locomotives. I'm assuming the host railroads use their own locomotives on the point on their own rails. Is that correct?
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Posted by dehusman on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 5:23 PM
Not necessarily, the UP locomotives may go through to New Jersey or the NS locomotives may go through to California. The wrinkle is that a UP locomotive HAS to be on the point of the train on the UP because of the cab signal systems.

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Posted by spbed on Wednesday, May 4, 2005 8:10 AM
As a example take a train made up in Altanta destined for UPRR LAX so at the interchange point the power will "run" thru to save time in switching locos. The same would be done on a EB train destined for Atlanta as a example. [:o)][8D]

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Wednesday, May 4, 2005 12:40 PM
Run-throughs have been around since at least the 1960's and possibly earlier. One interesting run-through was on the every-other-day "South Wind" between Chicago and Florida. Either PRR/PC or ACL/SCL power ran straight through with all power on any given train being from the same road. L&N did not contribute any power on this train.
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Posted by Kurn on Wednesday, May 4, 2005 8:13 PM
Lately in NE Ohio both CSX and NS have a lot of BNSF and UP units.While in Willoughby(east of Cleveland) today I saw 2 trains with all BNSF power on NS.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 4, 2005 9:00 PM
i've been seeing BNSF dash 8's and 9's on the CSX in ottawa, IL lately. from what i've seen, it's pretty rare anymore to see solid consists of the roads 'home' power on a train...
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 5, 2005 11:56 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by farmer03

i've been seeing BNSF dash 8's and 9's on the CSX in ottawa, IL lately. from what i've seen, it's pretty rare anymore to see solid consists of the roads 'home' power on a train...


Definately, with the way that RRs use power hours these days, it's one big cycle. It never adds up perfectly at the end of the month, so it just goes on and on and on.

It's interesting, because it's now coming to the point where power is power, and all the RRs just share locomotives now, just like the RBOX boxcars, and TTX spine cars for intermodal.

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