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QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed I thought it could have been a signal thing but was not sure. [:o)][:D] Originally posted by jeffhergert [ In some of the areas that have two or more main tracks, the "current of traffic" IS dictated by the signal system. The only places I know of that are like that are: St. Francis to Butler, and Gurnee to Proviso (on the Milwaukee Subdivision), and Chicago to Kenosha (on the Kenosha Subdivision). Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 10:33 AM I thought it could have been a signal thing but was not sure. [:o)][:D] Originally posted by jeffhergert [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply jeffhergert Member sinceMarch 2003 From: Central Iowa 6,844 posts Posted by jeffhergert on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 10:08 AM When the UP took over the CNW, most of the east/west main was signalled for movement in one direction only. The UP couldn't just say on day one, OK, trains will now run on the right. I'm guessing once CTC is in place all the way across Iowa, the normal flow of traffic will be kept to the right unless they need to runaround something or be runaround. At bridges and culverts, there are small milepost markers, not the normal mile, 1/4, 1/2, 3/4 markers but specific location identifiers. Where the track is signalled for one direction only , the markers are placed for left handed running. Out in Western Iowa where the UP put back in the double track with CTC, the markers were placed for predominantly right handed running even though trains can run either direction on either track. Jeff Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 10:05 AM There is another EB train running correctly on the Rochelle cam right now. Check it out! [:o)][:o)][:o)] Originally posted by cypriano Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply cypriano Member sinceSeptember 2003 From: Beach Park 43 posts Posted by cypriano on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:09 AM Upper level management, in many businesses, has pre-conceived ideas as to what should be "right" and enforces those beliefs despite what oppertating people may say. The cartoon strip, "Dilbert," makes fun of upper level management's habit of muddling along. Recall, also, the habit of acquiring firms have of inflicting its culture on the acquired. Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 8:52 AM You do realize that UPRR stock has been soaring in the last several months? That sounds to me that investors think UPRR management is on the ball. Also, what does left or right hand running of trains have to do with upper level management? I am sure the ivory tower suits could not care what track the trains run on so long as they run. [:o)][:D][:p] Originally posted by daveklepper [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 8:44 AM UP runs left handed on some portions of Sherman Hill, I believe since they built the 3rd track, so it's not a systemwide standard. Fortunately, C&NW locos weren't built with a reversed cab layout... Reply Edit daveklepper Member sinceJune 2002 20,043 posts Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 7:10 AM I have great hopes for improved UP management. Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 7:03 AM I just saw a EBer going by on the Rochelle cam running the "right" way in the UPRR lingo (not running east on the right hand track) [8D][:D][:)] Originally posted by cypriano Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply cypriano Member sinceSeptember 2003 From: Beach Park 43 posts Left running still on UP's ex-C&NW territory Posted by cypriano on Monday, April 11, 2005 10:50 PM With all the expansion that the UP did in the last decade and all the mistakes that they made that was reported on a few issues ago in Trains, there was one order from Omaha that was never issued: "Effective Monday, all movements on the former Chicago & North-Western dual track area shall cease left-hand running and conform to the accepted standard (right-hand running) of the Union Pacific Railroad." Image what would have happened if that edict from Omaha had been issued? Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
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Originally posted by jeffhergert [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply jeffhergert Member sinceMarch 2003 From: Central Iowa 6,844 posts Posted by jeffhergert on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 10:08 AM When the UP took over the CNW, most of the east/west main was signalled for movement in one direction only. The UP couldn't just say on day one, OK, trains will now run on the right. I'm guessing once CTC is in place all the way across Iowa, the normal flow of traffic will be kept to the right unless they need to runaround something or be runaround. At bridges and culverts, there are small milepost markers, not the normal mile, 1/4, 1/2, 3/4 markers but specific location identifiers. Where the track is signalled for one direction only , the markers are placed for left handed running. Out in Western Iowa where the UP put back in the double track with CTC, the markers were placed for predominantly right handed running even though trains can run either direction on either track. Jeff Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 10:05 AM There is another EB train running correctly on the Rochelle cam right now. Check it out! [:o)][:o)][:o)] Originally posted by cypriano Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply cypriano Member sinceSeptember 2003 From: Beach Park 43 posts Posted by cypriano on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:09 AM Upper level management, in many businesses, has pre-conceived ideas as to what should be "right" and enforces those beliefs despite what oppertating people may say. The cartoon strip, "Dilbert," makes fun of upper level management's habit of muddling along. Recall, also, the habit of acquiring firms have of inflicting its culture on the acquired. Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 8:52 AM You do realize that UPRR stock has been soaring in the last several months? That sounds to me that investors think UPRR management is on the ball. Also, what does left or right hand running of trains have to do with upper level management? I am sure the ivory tower suits could not care what track the trains run on so long as they run. [:o)][:D][:p] Originally posted by daveklepper [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 8:44 AM UP runs left handed on some portions of Sherman Hill, I believe since they built the 3rd track, so it's not a systemwide standard. Fortunately, C&NW locos weren't built with a reversed cab layout... Reply Edit daveklepper Member sinceJune 2002 20,043 posts Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 7:10 AM I have great hopes for improved UP management. Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 7:03 AM I just saw a EBer going by on the Rochelle cam running the "right" way in the UPRR lingo (not running east on the right hand track) [8D][:D][:)] Originally posted by cypriano Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply cypriano Member sinceSeptember 2003 From: Beach Park 43 posts Left running still on UP's ex-C&NW territory Posted by cypriano on Monday, April 11, 2005 10:50 PM With all the expansion that the UP did in the last decade and all the mistakes that they made that was reported on a few issues ago in Trains, there was one order from Omaha that was never issued: "Effective Monday, all movements on the former Chicago & North-Western dual track area shall cease left-hand running and conform to the accepted standard (right-hand running) of the Union Pacific Railroad." Image what would have happened if that edict from Omaha had been issued? Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
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Originally posted by cypriano Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply cypriano Member sinceSeptember 2003 From: Beach Park 43 posts Posted by cypriano on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:09 AM Upper level management, in many businesses, has pre-conceived ideas as to what should be "right" and enforces those beliefs despite what oppertating people may say. The cartoon strip, "Dilbert," makes fun of upper level management's habit of muddling along. Recall, also, the habit of acquiring firms have of inflicting its culture on the acquired. Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 8:52 AM You do realize that UPRR stock has been soaring in the last several months? That sounds to me that investors think UPRR management is on the ball. Also, what does left or right hand running of trains have to do with upper level management? I am sure the ivory tower suits could not care what track the trains run on so long as they run. [:o)][:D][:p] Originally posted by daveklepper [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 8:44 AM UP runs left handed on some portions of Sherman Hill, I believe since they built the 3rd track, so it's not a systemwide standard. Fortunately, C&NW locos weren't built with a reversed cab layout... Reply Edit daveklepper Member sinceJune 2002 20,043 posts Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 7:10 AM I have great hopes for improved UP management. Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 7:03 AM I just saw a EBer going by on the Rochelle cam running the "right" way in the UPRR lingo (not running east on the right hand track) [8D][:D][:)] Originally posted by cypriano Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply cypriano Member sinceSeptember 2003 From: Beach Park 43 posts Left running still on UP's ex-C&NW territory Posted by cypriano on Monday, April 11, 2005 10:50 PM With all the expansion that the UP did in the last decade and all the mistakes that they made that was reported on a few issues ago in Trains, there was one order from Omaha that was never issued: "Effective Monday, all movements on the former Chicago & North-Western dual track area shall cease left-hand running and conform to the accepted standard (right-hand running) of the Union Pacific Railroad." Image what would have happened if that edict from Omaha had been issued? Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
Originally posted by daveklepper [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 8:44 AM UP runs left handed on some portions of Sherman Hill, I believe since they built the 3rd track, so it's not a systemwide standard. Fortunately, C&NW locos weren't built with a reversed cab layout... Reply Edit daveklepper Member sinceJune 2002 20,043 posts Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 7:10 AM I have great hopes for improved UP management. Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 7:03 AM I just saw a EBer going by on the Rochelle cam running the "right" way in the UPRR lingo (not running east on the right hand track) [8D][:D][:)] Originally posted by cypriano Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply cypriano Member sinceSeptember 2003 From: Beach Park 43 posts Left running still on UP's ex-C&NW territory Posted by cypriano on Monday, April 11, 2005 10:50 PM With all the expansion that the UP did in the last decade and all the mistakes that they made that was reported on a few issues ago in Trains, there was one order from Omaha that was never issued: "Effective Monday, all movements on the former Chicago & North-Western dual track area shall cease left-hand running and conform to the accepted standard (right-hand running) of the Union Pacific Railroad." Image what would have happened if that edict from Omaha had been issued? Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
Originally posted by cypriano Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply cypriano Member sinceSeptember 2003 From: Beach Park 43 posts Left running still on UP's ex-C&NW territory Posted by cypriano on Monday, April 11, 2005 10:50 PM With all the expansion that the UP did in the last decade and all the mistakes that they made that was reported on a few issues ago in Trains, there was one order from Omaha that was never issued: "Effective Monday, all movements on the former Chicago & North-Western dual track area shall cease left-hand running and conform to the accepted standard (right-hand running) of the Union Pacific Railroad." Image what would have happened if that edict from Omaha had been issued? Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
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