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Originally posted by Junctionfan Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Overmod Member sinceSeptember 2003 21,442 posts Posted by Overmod on Saturday, April 9, 2005 8:58 AM The Gunderson AutoMAX cars are articulated. (Google on Gunderson AutoMAX to retrieve all necessary info) Reply TH&B Member sinceJuly 2003 964 posts Posted by TH&B on Saturday, April 9, 2005 9:13 AM I've seen them alot for the last 5 years, usualy yellow by NS or a TTX. They are not AutoMax cars wich are white and bigger in size, but similar. Reply CShaveRR Member sinceJune 2001 From: Lombard (west of Chicago), Illinois 13,681 posts Posted by CShaveRR on Saturday, April 9, 2005 10:10 AM Thrall Car built close to 1000 of these--there were originally 420 cars in BTTX series 880000-880419, 520 cars in NS series 110097-110141 and 110150-110624, and fifty rather paripatetic cars originally in TR (later NS, now FEC) series 110625-110674. All were in TTX yellow. The 4000-series number you saw on the NS car might have been a rack number. Carl Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!) CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM) Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 9, 2005 11:03 AM The TTX cars are from Trinity. TTX has not purchased or leased any of the AutoMAX cars. You can tell the difference mainly by the fact that the AutoMAX incorporates a well design to allow three levels for SUV's. The Trinity car utilizes a flat car base. Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 9, 2005 12:36 PM These Autoracks are becoming more common now. Just last week I saw a unit train of them from various roads heading south on CSX's Todelo-Dayton line through Lima, OH. Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 9, 2005 3:32 PM I've seen a lot of the TTX articulated racks, but I've never seen a combo rack like you're describing. It might have just been something they threw together to get the job done... trainluver1 Reply Edit M636C Member sinceJanuary 2002 4,612 posts Posted by M636C on Saturday, April 9, 2005 6:03 PM Because automobiles are relatively light, building an articulated auto rack car makes a lot of sense, since it saves on the cost and weight of a truck and a set of brake gear for each pair of cars. In Australia, Pacific National are having old cars rebuilt (and enclosed) as articulated triple deck vehicles. Peter Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 9, 2005 7:32 PM .....starting to see a lot of articulated autoracks around here, those things sure are big! Reply Edit mudchicken Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Denver / La Junta 10,790 posts Posted by mudchicken on Saturday, April 9, 2005 7:46 PM These were around before the trough trains showed-up in the early '90's....Still have vivid memories of what happens when one set of trucks derails in the middle while shoving against the air. One very long night![|)][|)][|)] Mudchicken Nothing is worth taking the risk of losing a life over. Come home tonight in the same condition that you left home this morning in. Safety begins with ME.... cinscocom-west Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, April 10, 2005 7:27 AM Thanks I never noticed that either. I will look on my tapes to see if I can find one close up! [:o)][8D] Originally posted by Overmod Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, April 10, 2005 7:29 AM OK i guess I had seen them before but never noticed it. See what rewatching the tape does? Thanks [:o)][:D][:p] Originally posted by mudchicken Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, April 10, 2005 7:30 AM In the train I video their was a NS set & a TTX set. [:o)][:)] Originally posted by 440cuin Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, April 10, 2005 7:33 AM OK thanks with all the trains I have seen I must have seen them before but never noticed it until watching the video I took in 04. [:o)][:D][:)] Originally posted by CShaveRR Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, April 10, 2005 7:36 AM Yes I have seen KSC & BNSF oversize cars + Auto max ones as well. I also saw a couple of UPRR cars in their marks painted UPRR yellow. Thanks I was aware they were for transport of SUVs. Wonder what the RR will do with them when when the SUV/Dodge Ram market has dried up due to the gas prices? [:p][8D] Originally posted by futuremodal Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, April 10, 2005 7:38 AM That is understandable what you posted. Tks. [:o)][:)] Originally posted by M636C Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply CShaveRR Member sinceJune 2001 From: Lombard (west of Chicago), Illinois 13,681 posts Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, April 10, 2005 10:15 AM Sorry, Futuremodal, but the BTTX, NS, and TR cars were indeed built by Thrall, not Trinity, between 1997 and 2001 (job numbers available on request). You are correct that these are the only articulated rack cars owned by TTX. The Auto-MAX cars were built by Gunderson, and are showing up under quite a few reporting marks (but not UP or NS). UP's own yellow auto racks, mentioned in a post above, were also built by Thrall. They're trilevels, and the lower level takes the form of a well, but they aren't articulated. I believe Thrall had called this design "Q2". Trinity, as far as I can tell, has never built any complete auto rack flat cars such as these. As the successor to Thrall, however, it has been supplying new auto racks for existing (and new) 89/90-foot TTX flat cars. Carl Carl Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!) CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM) Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 10, 2005 12:04 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by CShaveRR Sorry, Futuremodal, but the BTTX, NS, and TR cars were indeed built by Thrall, not Trinity, between 1997 and 2001 (job numbers available on request). You are correct that these are the only articulated rack cars owned by TTX. The Auto-MAX cars were built by Gunderson, and are showing up under quite a few reporting marks (but not UP or NS). UP's own yellow auto racks, mentioned in a post above, were also built by Thrall. They're trilevels, and the lower level takes the form of a well, but they aren't articulated. I believe Thrall had called this design "Q2". Trinity, as far as I can tell, has never built any complete auto rack flat cars such as these. As the successor to Thrall, however, it has been supplying new auto racks for existing (and new) 89/90-foot TTX flat cars. Carl Thanks for the correction, Carl, but I didn't say the current crop of TTX articulateds was built by Trinity, but are marketed by Trinity. Trinity does have the rights to build any new articulated autoracks, being the successor to Thrall, but hasn't built any since the Thrall takeover. I know this because I had contacted Trinity a few years ago regarding the prospect of using the base of the BTTX as an articulated flat car, and was informed by them that such could only happen if one of the autoracks is returned to them due to a wreck or some other reason, e.g. where the superstructure is damaged but the base is okay. They have had no new requests for more articulated autoracks, at least at the time of our conversation. However, is such were to happen, they would be built and marketed under the Trinity name. Reply Edit CShaveRR Member sinceJune 2001 From: Lombard (west of Chicago), Illinois 13,681 posts Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:08 PM Good--glad we got that straight. Carl Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!) CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM) Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
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Originally posted by Overmod Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, April 10, 2005 7:29 AM OK i guess I had seen them before but never noticed it. See what rewatching the tape does? Thanks [:o)][:D][:p] Originally posted by mudchicken Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, April 10, 2005 7:30 AM In the train I video their was a NS set & a TTX set. [:o)][:)] Originally posted by 440cuin Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, April 10, 2005 7:33 AM OK thanks with all the trains I have seen I must have seen them before but never noticed it until watching the video I took in 04. [:o)][:D][:)] Originally posted by CShaveRR Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, April 10, 2005 7:36 AM Yes I have seen KSC & BNSF oversize cars + Auto max ones as well. I also saw a couple of UPRR cars in their marks painted UPRR yellow. Thanks I was aware they were for transport of SUVs. Wonder what the RR will do with them when when the SUV/Dodge Ram market has dried up due to the gas prices? [:p][8D] Originally posted by futuremodal Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, April 10, 2005 7:38 AM That is understandable what you posted. Tks. [:o)][:)] Originally posted by M636C Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply CShaveRR Member sinceJune 2001 From: Lombard (west of Chicago), Illinois 13,681 posts Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, April 10, 2005 10:15 AM Sorry, Futuremodal, but the BTTX, NS, and TR cars were indeed built by Thrall, not Trinity, between 1997 and 2001 (job numbers available on request). You are correct that these are the only articulated rack cars owned by TTX. The Auto-MAX cars were built by Gunderson, and are showing up under quite a few reporting marks (but not UP or NS). UP's own yellow auto racks, mentioned in a post above, were also built by Thrall. They're trilevels, and the lower level takes the form of a well, but they aren't articulated. I believe Thrall had called this design "Q2". Trinity, as far as I can tell, has never built any complete auto rack flat cars such as these. As the successor to Thrall, however, it has been supplying new auto racks for existing (and new) 89/90-foot TTX flat cars. Carl Carl Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!) CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM) Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 10, 2005 12:04 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by CShaveRR Sorry, Futuremodal, but the BTTX, NS, and TR cars were indeed built by Thrall, not Trinity, between 1997 and 2001 (job numbers available on request). You are correct that these are the only articulated rack cars owned by TTX. The Auto-MAX cars were built by Gunderson, and are showing up under quite a few reporting marks (but not UP or NS). UP's own yellow auto racks, mentioned in a post above, were also built by Thrall. They're trilevels, and the lower level takes the form of a well, but they aren't articulated. I believe Thrall had called this design "Q2". Trinity, as far as I can tell, has never built any complete auto rack flat cars such as these. As the successor to Thrall, however, it has been supplying new auto racks for existing (and new) 89/90-foot TTX flat cars. Carl Thanks for the correction, Carl, but I didn't say the current crop of TTX articulateds was built by Trinity, but are marketed by Trinity. Trinity does have the rights to build any new articulated autoracks, being the successor to Thrall, but hasn't built any since the Thrall takeover. I know this because I had contacted Trinity a few years ago regarding the prospect of using the base of the BTTX as an articulated flat car, and was informed by them that such could only happen if one of the autoracks is returned to them due to a wreck or some other reason, e.g. where the superstructure is damaged but the base is okay. They have had no new requests for more articulated autoracks, at least at the time of our conversation. However, is such were to happen, they would be built and marketed under the Trinity name. Reply Edit CShaveRR Member sinceJune 2001 From: Lombard (west of Chicago), Illinois 13,681 posts Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:08 PM Good--glad we got that straight. Carl Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!) CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM) Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
Originally posted by mudchicken Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, April 10, 2005 7:30 AM In the train I video their was a NS set & a TTX set. [:o)][:)] Originally posted by 440cuin Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, April 10, 2005 7:33 AM OK thanks with all the trains I have seen I must have seen them before but never noticed it until watching the video I took in 04. [:o)][:D][:)] Originally posted by CShaveRR Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, April 10, 2005 7:36 AM Yes I have seen KSC & BNSF oversize cars + Auto max ones as well. I also saw a couple of UPRR cars in their marks painted UPRR yellow. Thanks I was aware they were for transport of SUVs. Wonder what the RR will do with them when when the SUV/Dodge Ram market has dried up due to the gas prices? [:p][8D] Originally posted by futuremodal Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, April 10, 2005 7:38 AM That is understandable what you posted. Tks. [:o)][:)] Originally posted by M636C Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply CShaveRR Member sinceJune 2001 From: Lombard (west of Chicago), Illinois 13,681 posts Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, April 10, 2005 10:15 AM Sorry, Futuremodal, but the BTTX, NS, and TR cars were indeed built by Thrall, not Trinity, between 1997 and 2001 (job numbers available on request). You are correct that these are the only articulated rack cars owned by TTX. The Auto-MAX cars were built by Gunderson, and are showing up under quite a few reporting marks (but not UP or NS). UP's own yellow auto racks, mentioned in a post above, were also built by Thrall. They're trilevels, and the lower level takes the form of a well, but they aren't articulated. I believe Thrall had called this design "Q2". Trinity, as far as I can tell, has never built any complete auto rack flat cars such as these. As the successor to Thrall, however, it has been supplying new auto racks for existing (and new) 89/90-foot TTX flat cars. Carl Carl Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!) CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM) Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 10, 2005 12:04 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by CShaveRR Sorry, Futuremodal, but the BTTX, NS, and TR cars were indeed built by Thrall, not Trinity, between 1997 and 2001 (job numbers available on request). You are correct that these are the only articulated rack cars owned by TTX. The Auto-MAX cars were built by Gunderson, and are showing up under quite a few reporting marks (but not UP or NS). UP's own yellow auto racks, mentioned in a post above, were also built by Thrall. They're trilevels, and the lower level takes the form of a well, but they aren't articulated. I believe Thrall had called this design "Q2". Trinity, as far as I can tell, has never built any complete auto rack flat cars such as these. As the successor to Thrall, however, it has been supplying new auto racks for existing (and new) 89/90-foot TTX flat cars. Carl Thanks for the correction, Carl, but I didn't say the current crop of TTX articulateds was built by Trinity, but are marketed by Trinity. Trinity does have the rights to build any new articulated autoracks, being the successor to Thrall, but hasn't built any since the Thrall takeover. I know this because I had contacted Trinity a few years ago regarding the prospect of using the base of the BTTX as an articulated flat car, and was informed by them that such could only happen if one of the autoracks is returned to them due to a wreck or some other reason, e.g. where the superstructure is damaged but the base is okay. They have had no new requests for more articulated autoracks, at least at the time of our conversation. However, is such were to happen, they would be built and marketed under the Trinity name. Reply Edit CShaveRR Member sinceJune 2001 From: Lombard (west of Chicago), Illinois 13,681 posts Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:08 PM Good--glad we got that straight. Carl Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!) CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM) Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. 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Originally posted by 440cuin Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, April 10, 2005 7:33 AM OK thanks with all the trains I have seen I must have seen them before but never noticed it until watching the video I took in 04. [:o)][:D][:)] Originally posted by CShaveRR Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, April 10, 2005 7:36 AM Yes I have seen KSC & BNSF oversize cars + Auto max ones as well. I also saw a couple of UPRR cars in their marks painted UPRR yellow. Thanks I was aware they were for transport of SUVs. Wonder what the RR will do with them when when the SUV/Dodge Ram market has dried up due to the gas prices? [:p][8D] Originally posted by futuremodal Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, April 10, 2005 7:38 AM That is understandable what you posted. Tks. [:o)][:)] Originally posted by M636C Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply CShaveRR Member sinceJune 2001 From: Lombard (west of Chicago), Illinois 13,681 posts Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, April 10, 2005 10:15 AM Sorry, Futuremodal, but the BTTX, NS, and TR cars were indeed built by Thrall, not Trinity, between 1997 and 2001 (job numbers available on request). You are correct that these are the only articulated rack cars owned by TTX. The Auto-MAX cars were built by Gunderson, and are showing up under quite a few reporting marks (but not UP or NS). UP's own yellow auto racks, mentioned in a post above, were also built by Thrall. They're trilevels, and the lower level takes the form of a well, but they aren't articulated. I believe Thrall had called this design "Q2". Trinity, as far as I can tell, has never built any complete auto rack flat cars such as these. As the successor to Thrall, however, it has been supplying new auto racks for existing (and new) 89/90-foot TTX flat cars. Carl Carl Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!) CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM) Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 10, 2005 12:04 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by CShaveRR Sorry, Futuremodal, but the BTTX, NS, and TR cars were indeed built by Thrall, not Trinity, between 1997 and 2001 (job numbers available on request). You are correct that these are the only articulated rack cars owned by TTX. The Auto-MAX cars were built by Gunderson, and are showing up under quite a few reporting marks (but not UP or NS). UP's own yellow auto racks, mentioned in a post above, were also built by Thrall. They're trilevels, and the lower level takes the form of a well, but they aren't articulated. I believe Thrall had called this design "Q2". Trinity, as far as I can tell, has never built any complete auto rack flat cars such as these. As the successor to Thrall, however, it has been supplying new auto racks for existing (and new) 89/90-foot TTX flat cars. Carl Thanks for the correction, Carl, but I didn't say the current crop of TTX articulateds was built by Trinity, but are marketed by Trinity. Trinity does have the rights to build any new articulated autoracks, being the successor to Thrall, but hasn't built any since the Thrall takeover. I know this because I had contacted Trinity a few years ago regarding the prospect of using the base of the BTTX as an articulated flat car, and was informed by them that such could only happen if one of the autoracks is returned to them due to a wreck or some other reason, e.g. where the superstructure is damaged but the base is okay. They have had no new requests for more articulated autoracks, at least at the time of our conversation. However, is such were to happen, they would be built and marketed under the Trinity name. Reply Edit CShaveRR Member sinceJune 2001 From: Lombard (west of Chicago), Illinois 13,681 posts Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:08 PM Good--glad we got that straight. Carl Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!) CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM) Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
Originally posted by CShaveRR Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, April 10, 2005 7:36 AM Yes I have seen KSC & BNSF oversize cars + Auto max ones as well. I also saw a couple of UPRR cars in their marks painted UPRR yellow. Thanks I was aware they were for transport of SUVs. Wonder what the RR will do with them when when the SUV/Dodge Ram market has dried up due to the gas prices? [:p][8D] Originally posted by futuremodal Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, April 10, 2005 7:38 AM That is understandable what you posted. Tks. [:o)][:)] Originally posted by M636C Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply CShaveRR Member sinceJune 2001 From: Lombard (west of Chicago), Illinois 13,681 posts Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, April 10, 2005 10:15 AM Sorry, Futuremodal, but the BTTX, NS, and TR cars were indeed built by Thrall, not Trinity, between 1997 and 2001 (job numbers available on request). You are correct that these are the only articulated rack cars owned by TTX. The Auto-MAX cars were built by Gunderson, and are showing up under quite a few reporting marks (but not UP or NS). UP's own yellow auto racks, mentioned in a post above, were also built by Thrall. They're trilevels, and the lower level takes the form of a well, but they aren't articulated. I believe Thrall had called this design "Q2". Trinity, as far as I can tell, has never built any complete auto rack flat cars such as these. As the successor to Thrall, however, it has been supplying new auto racks for existing (and new) 89/90-foot TTX flat cars. Carl Carl Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!) CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM) Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 10, 2005 12:04 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by CShaveRR Sorry, Futuremodal, but the BTTX, NS, and TR cars were indeed built by Thrall, not Trinity, between 1997 and 2001 (job numbers available on request). You are correct that these are the only articulated rack cars owned by TTX. The Auto-MAX cars were built by Gunderson, and are showing up under quite a few reporting marks (but not UP or NS). UP's own yellow auto racks, mentioned in a post above, were also built by Thrall. They're trilevels, and the lower level takes the form of a well, but they aren't articulated. I believe Thrall had called this design "Q2". Trinity, as far as I can tell, has never built any complete auto rack flat cars such as these. As the successor to Thrall, however, it has been supplying new auto racks for existing (and new) 89/90-foot TTX flat cars. Carl Thanks for the correction, Carl, but I didn't say the current crop of TTX articulateds was built by Trinity, but are marketed by Trinity. Trinity does have the rights to build any new articulated autoracks, being the successor to Thrall, but hasn't built any since the Thrall takeover. I know this because I had contacted Trinity a few years ago regarding the prospect of using the base of the BTTX as an articulated flat car, and was informed by them that such could only happen if one of the autoracks is returned to them due to a wreck or some other reason, e.g. where the superstructure is damaged but the base is okay. They have had no new requests for more articulated autoracks, at least at the time of our conversation. However, is such were to happen, they would be built and marketed under the Trinity name. Reply Edit CShaveRR Member sinceJune 2001 From: Lombard (west of Chicago), Illinois 13,681 posts Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:08 PM Good--glad we got that straight. Carl Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!) CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM) Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
Originally posted by futuremodal Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, April 10, 2005 7:38 AM That is understandable what you posted. Tks. [:o)][:)] Originally posted by M636C Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply CShaveRR Member sinceJune 2001 From: Lombard (west of Chicago), Illinois 13,681 posts Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, April 10, 2005 10:15 AM Sorry, Futuremodal, but the BTTX, NS, and TR cars were indeed built by Thrall, not Trinity, between 1997 and 2001 (job numbers available on request). You are correct that these are the only articulated rack cars owned by TTX. The Auto-MAX cars were built by Gunderson, and are showing up under quite a few reporting marks (but not UP or NS). UP's own yellow auto racks, mentioned in a post above, were also built by Thrall. They're trilevels, and the lower level takes the form of a well, but they aren't articulated. I believe Thrall had called this design "Q2". Trinity, as far as I can tell, has never built any complete auto rack flat cars such as these. As the successor to Thrall, however, it has been supplying new auto racks for existing (and new) 89/90-foot TTX flat cars. Carl Carl Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!) CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM) Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 10, 2005 12:04 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by CShaveRR Sorry, Futuremodal, but the BTTX, NS, and TR cars were indeed built by Thrall, not Trinity, between 1997 and 2001 (job numbers available on request). You are correct that these are the only articulated rack cars owned by TTX. The Auto-MAX cars were built by Gunderson, and are showing up under quite a few reporting marks (but not UP or NS). UP's own yellow auto racks, mentioned in a post above, were also built by Thrall. They're trilevels, and the lower level takes the form of a well, but they aren't articulated. I believe Thrall had called this design "Q2". Trinity, as far as I can tell, has never built any complete auto rack flat cars such as these. As the successor to Thrall, however, it has been supplying new auto racks for existing (and new) 89/90-foot TTX flat cars. Carl Thanks for the correction, Carl, but I didn't say the current crop of TTX articulateds was built by Trinity, but are marketed by Trinity. Trinity does have the rights to build any new articulated autoracks, being the successor to Thrall, but hasn't built any since the Thrall takeover. I know this because I had contacted Trinity a few years ago regarding the prospect of using the base of the BTTX as an articulated flat car, and was informed by them that such could only happen if one of the autoracks is returned to them due to a wreck or some other reason, e.g. where the superstructure is damaged but the base is okay. They have had no new requests for more articulated autoracks, at least at the time of our conversation. However, is such were to happen, they would be built and marketed under the Trinity name. Reply Edit CShaveRR Member sinceJune 2001 From: Lombard (west of Chicago), Illinois 13,681 posts Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:08 PM Good--glad we got that straight. Carl Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!) CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM) Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
Originally posted by M636C Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply CShaveRR Member sinceJune 2001 From: Lombard (west of Chicago), Illinois 13,681 posts Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, April 10, 2005 10:15 AM Sorry, Futuremodal, but the BTTX, NS, and TR cars were indeed built by Thrall, not Trinity, between 1997 and 2001 (job numbers available on request). You are correct that these are the only articulated rack cars owned by TTX. The Auto-MAX cars were built by Gunderson, and are showing up under quite a few reporting marks (but not UP or NS). UP's own yellow auto racks, mentioned in a post above, were also built by Thrall. They're trilevels, and the lower level takes the form of a well, but they aren't articulated. I believe Thrall had called this design "Q2". Trinity, as far as I can tell, has never built any complete auto rack flat cars such as these. As the successor to Thrall, however, it has been supplying new auto racks for existing (and new) 89/90-foot TTX flat cars. Carl Carl Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!) CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM) Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 10, 2005 12:04 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by CShaveRR Sorry, Futuremodal, but the BTTX, NS, and TR cars were indeed built by Thrall, not Trinity, between 1997 and 2001 (job numbers available on request). You are correct that these are the only articulated rack cars owned by TTX. The Auto-MAX cars were built by Gunderson, and are showing up under quite a few reporting marks (but not UP or NS). UP's own yellow auto racks, mentioned in a post above, were also built by Thrall. They're trilevels, and the lower level takes the form of a well, but they aren't articulated. I believe Thrall had called this design "Q2". Trinity, as far as I can tell, has never built any complete auto rack flat cars such as these. As the successor to Thrall, however, it has been supplying new auto racks for existing (and new) 89/90-foot TTX flat cars. Carl Thanks for the correction, Carl, but I didn't say the current crop of TTX articulateds was built by Trinity, but are marketed by Trinity. Trinity does have the rights to build any new articulated autoracks, being the successor to Thrall, but hasn't built any since the Thrall takeover. I know this because I had contacted Trinity a few years ago regarding the prospect of using the base of the BTTX as an articulated flat car, and was informed by them that such could only happen if one of the autoracks is returned to them due to a wreck or some other reason, e.g. where the superstructure is damaged but the base is okay. They have had no new requests for more articulated autoracks, at least at the time of our conversation. However, is such were to happen, they would be built and marketed under the Trinity name. Reply Edit CShaveRR Member sinceJune 2001 From: Lombard (west of Chicago), Illinois 13,681 posts Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:08 PM Good--glad we got that straight. Carl Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!) CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM) Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
QUOTE: Originally posted by CShaveRR Sorry, Futuremodal, but the BTTX, NS, and TR cars were indeed built by Thrall, not Trinity, between 1997 and 2001 (job numbers available on request). You are correct that these are the only articulated rack cars owned by TTX. The Auto-MAX cars were built by Gunderson, and are showing up under quite a few reporting marks (but not UP or NS). UP's own yellow auto racks, mentioned in a post above, were also built by Thrall. They're trilevels, and the lower level takes the form of a well, but they aren't articulated. I believe Thrall had called this design "Q2". Trinity, as far as I can tell, has never built any complete auto rack flat cars such as these. As the successor to Thrall, however, it has been supplying new auto racks for existing (and new) 89/90-foot TTX flat cars. Carl
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