QUOTE: Originally posted by emd_SD_60 Earlier today, I was at one of my hotspots waiting on a train to move through. The gates had already came down and the train was slowly approaching. Well this hothead in a pickup truck decides he cant wait the 3 minutes and goes around, with the train only 20 feet from hitting him![:(!] I was wishing it (train)had gone just a little faster and him (motorist idiot) a little slower, then he would have learned "pain" the hard way. Fortunately I had my camera rolling and it caught the dumba** in the act![:D] I wonder if it'll do any good to show it to the railroad (CN), but probably since I didn't catch his plate # it will probably do no good. Hopefully the brakeman got it, as he was still waiting for traffic to clear before turning on to the highway![:o)] Serves you right, you clown! Of course I am probably not the only one to be infuriated by these actions, what's so bad waiting a friggin 2-3 minutes?[:(!]
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QUOTE: Originally posted by mbkcs Warning! Warning! the gates are lowering on a request for a little political correctness. In the short time that I have been reading this forum, I have noticed the frequent use of the term “Retard” to describe someone. I understand that it is a term that has been used for years, but I have a severely retarded sister and she would know not to step in front of a train. Surely, "Retard" can be substituted with...well, the first word I think about when seeing people try to beat the train is not printable, but I know that they are not Retarded. The mentally retarded can't be anything but the person they are. But those who break the law are, we all assume, possess a fair amount of intellect and common sense. Their actions should not be compared to the behavior of anyone like my sister.
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QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan Same thing with people and railroad crossings. The railroads may decrease national unemployment rate in more than one way.
QUOTE: Originally posted by mbkcs Warning! Warning! the gates are lowering on a request for a little political correctness.
Originally posted by emd_SD_60 Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply AntonioFP45 Member sinceDecember 2003 From: Good ol' USA 9,640 posts Posted by AntonioFP45 on Thursday, April 7, 2005 6:38 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by CP5415 I'd call that person stupid but that would be an insult to stupid people! Gordon Well, there's also: (1) Moron [%-)] (2) Mental MIdget [D)][D)] (3) Brain Dead Dweeb, [D)][D)][D)] (4) Norm Mineta [D)][D)][D)][D)][D)] "I like my Pullman Standards & Budds in Stainless Steel flavors, thank you!" Reply edblysard Member sinceMarch 2002 9,265 posts Posted by edblysard on Thursday, April 7, 2005 6:50 AM Brant.. Not so much political correctness, but just plain compassion. I hope that you have a chance to interact on a personel basis with someone who is challenged... It will alter the way you think, not only about their lot in life, but yours too. Humbleing isnt descriptive enough, but it will do. You realize just how lucky you are, no matter how bad a day you are having, when you have to watch a 15 year old girl, beautiful by anyones standard, struggle with a task most 5 year olds can do with out thinking about it. You take tying your shoe for granted, but imagine it being a task that required your complete concetration... How about having such a hard time speaking clearly, and trying to ask your instructor for permission to go to the restroom, and being unable too...finally getting so frustrated with your inability to speak and express yourself like others, that all you can do in the end is cry and point? Trust me, your value system changes after a while....things you find insignificant become big achivements for retarded kids...things you find impressive dont even exsist in their world. I used the word retarded on purpose...its meaning is quite clear...the word means "held back"...and often, these kids have that done to them...society and ignorance of their problems do just that, holds them back. They didnt ask to be born this way, and in many cases, they have no choice in what happens to them, or how their life will be lived...they exsist in a world where the only reason they are not dumped into institutions is because of the compassion of those around them. They have no choice in the matter. The fools who drive around gates...and the ones who chose to insult the handicapped, do. I dont use the word retarded in conversation...not out of correctness...but out of compassion. I have watched the faces of parents whos child has never accomplished any of the things "normal" kids do...while their kids, for the first time, rides a horse around a ring, alone, with no helper leading it. You would think they were watching their kid walk on the moon....the hope that things will finally work out, the idea that their kid is not as handicapped as they though, the concept of, just for a few minutes, their kid is "normal".... You come watch their faces, look at their eyes...and I bet you would never, not in a million years, use the word retarded within their hearing! Ed 23 17 46 11 Reply tree68 Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Northern New York 24,924 posts Posted by tree68 on Thursday, April 7, 2005 7:20 AM The term "politically correct" isn't appropriate here. It's social awareness. Years ago the mentally challenged were regarded with derision - social outcasts. We, as a society, have discovered that was the wrong way to look at them. "Retards" is an outdated term that reflects an outdated way of thinking of them. It needs to be retired. Larry Resident Microferroequinologist (at least at my house) Everyone goes home; Safety begins with you My Opinion. Standard Disclaimers Apply. No Expiration Date Come ride the rails with me! There's one thing about humility - the moment you think you've got it, you've lost it... Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 7, 2005 8:09 AM In the official terms of the medical past, there were three levels of mental retardation, each signifying the level of disability. They were idiot, moron and imbecile. I don't think anyone is aware of these terms or cares for their history. Idiot is so frequently used. I personally think "LOSER" is an appropiate term for any idiot who crosses tries to beat a train. I use to be a paramedic and I've seen the body damage such an event can cause. to: bbrant. Freedom comes with responsibility. Freedom of speech does exist and you can say what you when you want. But don't expect not to get corrected for being unkind. How we refer to others often reflects how we treat others. For example, railfans are being called "suspicious" thus they are being treated as such. If I never called you anything but good things, then I would be naturally treat you as I called you. I don't mean to take time on this forum to rant, but I always get concerned when anyone throws around our right to Freedom of Speech to justify bad behavior. Reply Edit jchnhtfd Member sinceJanuary 2001 From: US 1,537 posts Posted by jchnhtfd on Thursday, April 7, 2005 2:09 PM Ahem. Hello? We seem to be involved in a PC argument here. In general, I am in the same camp as Edblysyard -- but then, I usually am! The folks we see driving around crossing gates, or displaying other behaviours of that sort (ignoring stop signs, running red lights, whatever...) are, in general, no different from most of us in regards basic intelligence or education or ... and I could go on. Where the difference arises is in attitude. Our initial poster put it correctly: the fellow didn't want to wait the three minutes. This type of behaviour -- and the resulting accidents -- usually comes from one of two places: inattentiveness (often from paying attention to or focussing on something else, occasionaly from fatigue) or a particular form of selfishness: whatever I am doing is the most important thing in the world, and nothing else should interfere. And for these folks, that 'should' is an imperative: they will allow nothing else to interfere, and assume that their will will prevail. In dealing with other people, it usually does -- and we see these folks in many walks of life, happily trampling on whoever to get to their personal goal. Unfortunately, their will will NOT prevail in other situations -- like railroad crossings, or building houses on flood plains and beaches, or... fill in the blanks. It's the 'me first and the Devil take the rest' attitude that is truly the problem, not mental capacity! Jamie Reply MP57313 Member sinceJune 2001 From: L A County, CA, US 1,009 posts Posted by MP57313 on Thursday, April 7, 2005 2:47 PM Points well taken. Some of the risk-taking folks (the "chicken" types) have what is sometimes called the 'thrillseeker gene', and they enjoy the adrenaline rush. Others are just impatient, or just have poor judgment. Neither of these kinds of drivers are likely to listen to reason, even if they are involved in a close call. Maybe, with the passage of time, they will slow down...but there are always new drivers to "take their place" on the roads. Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 7, 2005 3:16 PM If the photo is clear and crisp enough , you might send it to the local newspaper. They could find it interesting enough to print as a good example of a bad example. As far as "political correctness:" I believe it is a term generally used derisively by those who belittle respect for other groups yet demand it for their own. It has nothing to do with free speech. Any careless individual, bigot or tiresome bore is free to speak his mind in this country. He shouldn't be surprised to get a negative reaction though. Titles of threads can be edited if the poster desires, I believe. Wayne Reply Edit locomutt Member sinceSeptember 2003 From: Louisville,Ky. 5,077 posts Posted by locomutt on Thursday, April 7, 2005 3:48 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by mbkcs In the official terms of the medical past, there were three levels of mental retardation, each signifying the level of disability. They were idiot, moron and imbecile. I don't think anyone is aware of these terms or cares for their history. Idiot is so frequently used. I personally think "LOSER" is an appropiate term for any idiot who crosses tries to beat a train. I use to be a paramedic and I've seen the body damage such an event can cause. to: bbrant. Freedom comes with responsibility. Freedom of speech does exist and you can say what you when you want. But don't expect not to get corrected for being unkind. How we refer to others often reflects how we treat others. For example, railfans are being called "suspicious" thus they are being treated as such. If I never called you anything but good things, then I would be naturally treat you as I called you. I don't mean to take time on this forum to rant, but I always get concerned when anyone throws around our right to Freedom of Speech to justify bad behavior. "LOSER" works quite well. If 'you' mess with a train,that's exactly what you will get. You'll LOSE!!!!!! I'm a former FF/EMT and have seen several cases like that. It ain't pretty!!!!!! Being Crazy,keeps you from going "INSANE" !! "The light at the end of the tunnel,has been turned off due to budget cuts" NOT AFRAID A Vet., and PROUD OF IT!! Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 7, 2005 5:57 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by locomutt QUOTE: Originally posted by mbkcs In the official terms of the medical past, there were three levels of mental retardation, each signifying the level of disability. They were idiot, moron and imbecile. I don't think anyone is aware of these terms or cares for their history. Idiot is so frequently used. I personally think "LOSER" is an appropiate term for any idiot who crosses tries to beat a train. I use to be a paramedic and I've seen the body damage such an event can cause. to: bbrant. Freedom comes with responsibility. Freedom of speech does exist and you can say what you when you want. But don't expect not to get corrected for being unkind. How we refer to others often reflects how we treat others. For example, railfans are being called "suspicious" thus they are being treated as such. If I never called you anything but good things, then I would be naturally treat you as I called you. I don't mean to take time on this forum to rant, but I always get concerned when anyone throws around our right to Freedom of Speech to justify bad behavior. "LOSER" works quite well. If 'you' mess with a train,that's exactly what you will get. You'll LOSE!!!!!! I'm a former FF/EMT and have seen several cases like that. It ain't pretty!!!!!! Never underestimate the power of the obvious or its reality - Well said - PL Reply Edit bbrant Member sinceFebruary 2001 415 posts Posted by bbrant on Friday, April 8, 2005 5:26 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by mbkcs In the official terms of the medical past, there were three levels of mental retardation, each signifying the level of disability. They were idiot, moron and imbecile. I don't think anyone is aware of these terms or cares for their history. Idiot is so frequently used. I personally think "LOSER" is an appropiate term for any idiot who crosses tries to beat a train. I use to be a paramedic and I've seen the body damage such an event can cause. to: bbrant. Freedom comes with responsibility. Freedom of speech does exist and you can say what you when you want. But don't expect not to get corrected for being unkind. How we refer to others often reflects how we treat others. For example, railfans are being called "suspicious" thus they are being treated as such. If I never called you anything but good things, then I would be naturally treat you as I called you. I don't mean to take time on this forum to rant, but I always get concerned when anyone throws around our right to Freedom of Speech to justify bad behavior. If the term were directed to someone who is mentally handicapped then I would agree 100% that it was offensive. But the context the word retard was used in is no different than the context of calling this guy a moron, idiot or otherwise. I have to ask why the PC warning gates didn't go down on either "moron" or "idiot"? Moron - A person of mild mental retardation having a mental age of from 7 to 12 years and generally having communication and social skills enabling some degree of academic or vocational education. Idiot - A person of profound mental retardation having a mental age below three years and generally being unable to learn connected speech or guard against common dangers. Look, the bottom line is the guy who cut in front of the train did something incredibly dumb and dangerous. But the context to describe the guy was not meant to offend anyone nor should anyone be offended. Reply 123 Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. 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QUOTE: Originally posted by CP5415 I'd call that person stupid but that would be an insult to stupid people! Gordon
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Larry Resident Microferroequinologist (at least at my house) Everyone goes home; Safety begins with you My Opinion. Standard Disclaimers Apply. No Expiration Date Come ride the rails with me! There's one thing about humility - the moment you think you've got it, you've lost it...
QUOTE: Originally posted by mbkcs In the official terms of the medical past, there were three levels of mental retardation, each signifying the level of disability. They were idiot, moron and imbecile. I don't think anyone is aware of these terms or cares for their history. Idiot is so frequently used. I personally think "LOSER" is an appropiate term for any idiot who crosses tries to beat a train. I use to be a paramedic and I've seen the body damage such an event can cause. to: bbrant. Freedom comes with responsibility. Freedom of speech does exist and you can say what you when you want. But don't expect not to get corrected for being unkind. How we refer to others often reflects how we treat others. For example, railfans are being called "suspicious" thus they are being treated as such. If I never called you anything but good things, then I would be naturally treat you as I called you. I don't mean to take time on this forum to rant, but I always get concerned when anyone throws around our right to Freedom of Speech to justify bad behavior.
QUOTE: Originally posted by locomutt QUOTE: Originally posted by mbkcs In the official terms of the medical past, there were three levels of mental retardation, each signifying the level of disability. They were idiot, moron and imbecile. I don't think anyone is aware of these terms or cares for their history. Idiot is so frequently used. I personally think "LOSER" is an appropiate term for any idiot who crosses tries to beat a train. I use to be a paramedic and I've seen the body damage such an event can cause. to: bbrant. Freedom comes with responsibility. Freedom of speech does exist and you can say what you when you want. But don't expect not to get corrected for being unkind. How we refer to others often reflects how we treat others. For example, railfans are being called "suspicious" thus they are being treated as such. If I never called you anything but good things, then I would be naturally treat you as I called you. I don't mean to take time on this forum to rant, but I always get concerned when anyone throws around our right to Freedom of Speech to justify bad behavior. "LOSER" works quite well. If 'you' mess with a train,that's exactly what you will get. You'll LOSE!!!!!! I'm a former FF/EMT and have seen several cases like that. It ain't pretty!!!!!!
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