QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed I heard that the maps are at least 6 months behind real time. [:p][:)] Originally posted by techguy57 Delayed apparently out of deference to national security. Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:59 AM Got to get another memory card to use it as everytime I use it crashes my machine. [:D][:o)] Originally posted by techguy57 [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:26 AM I heard that the maps are at least 6 months behind real time. [:p][:)] Originally posted by techguy57 Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply techguy57 Member sinceAugust 2003 From: NW Chicago 591 posts Posted by techguy57 on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:21 AM For Carl and all of the other UP folks and fans, a zoom in of Proviso Yard http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=41.897703,-87.908531&spn=0.005890,0.007918&t=k&hl=en techguy "Beware the lollipop of mediocrity. Lick it once and you suck forever." - Anonymous Reply ericsp Member sinceMay 2015 5,134 posts Posted by ericsp on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 11:18 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by Dough Oh and the fact that you can't link to a particular map is frustrating. Click on the "Link to this page" on the right side of the page to get the website address for a particular view "No soup for you!" - Yev Kassem (from Seinfeld) Reply canazar Member sinceAugust 2004 From: Phoenix, Arizona 1,989 posts Posted by canazar on Saturday, April 9, 2005 9:49 PM That North Platte yard was mind blowng. Good greif.... johnk Best Regards, Big John Kiva Valley Railway- Freelanced road in central Arizona. Visit the link to see my MR forum thread on The Building of the Whitton Branch on the Kiva Valley Railway Reply M636C Member sinceJanuary 2002 4,612 posts Posted by M636C on Saturday, April 9, 2005 9:32 PM Cajon Pass is pretty impressive, but the photo changes half way down a train. Still , you can count the cars! They don't have any detail photos of Tehachapi yet, although you can just make out the loop on the big picture. Peter Reply ericsp Member sinceMay 2015 5,134 posts Posted by ericsp on Saturday, April 9, 2005 6:22 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by eastside In comparing to Terra, my impression from features that I'm familiar with is that Google's maps are more up-to-date, even though they say they will deliberately lag by 6-12 months. Some of Terra's maps are years old. Have they ever updated? Note the "Beta" designation below the Google logo. This means that it's a test, not the final version. I guess they're still filling-in some of the missing data. One area I looked at in both Google and Terra Server's "Urban Areas" has the same train in the exact same place. Appearently they used the same photographs, only the :"Urban Areas" allows one to zoom in closer. This would mean that if Terra Server only have "Aerial Photograph" available for an area then Google's photograph would be newer, probably the same for maps. "No soup for you!" - Yev Kassem (from Seinfeld) Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 8, 2005 9:59 PM Its a cool website. Although when looking at the railroad names on the map are out of date. Penn central still exist on the maps. Reply Edit Modelcar Member sinceFebruary 2002 From: Muncie, Indiana...Orig. from Pennsylvania 13,456 posts Posted by Modelcar on Thursday, April 7, 2005 10:34 PM ...My only try with it so far was to put in my address and it rather quickly brought it up but, it was not close enough to be useful....and I couldn't bring it up any closer. On the other hand, TerraServer will go down to about 1 meter resolution....At least it did the last I tried it. If my car would have been sitting in the dirveway...I would have been able to see it but I couldn't even distinguish our home with the Google unit....Just the arrow pointing to where it is.... Quentin Reply mudchicken Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Denver / La Junta 10,820 posts Posted by mudchicken on Thursday, April 7, 2005 7:25 PM Overmod: Now you start to understand why surveyors look at GIS people with a jaundiced view when watching GIS folks market their product. Mudchicken Nothing is worth taking the risk of losing a life over. Come home tonight in the same condition that you left home this morning in. Safety begins with ME.... cinscocom-west Reply Overmod Member sinceSeptember 2003 21,669 posts Posted by Overmod on Thursday, April 7, 2005 7:17 PM There are worse problems with it as currently designed -- A quick test from my present to my old address has the 'best' route between Memphis and Englewood, NJ routed through West Virginia, for heaven's sake, and then via the Beltway and New Jersey Turnpike. Mountains up the wazoo, then tolls up the wazoo, and 56 miles longer to boot! I can't figure out what they're thinking... Then I try to pick up 51 Prospect in Princeton, and no matter what I do it goes to South Brunswick. No excuse for this other than idiots. None. Even for beta software, this is ridiculous. The thing that *really* bothers me is that it's a crapshoot whether or not stuff like this gets fixed. Yes, it's nice to have satellite pix, and yes, it loads really fast. But that's simple 21st-century server-side functionality. Be nice for Google to tie into all these municipality and county GIS systems as well as satellite imaging -- but I'd almost bet there will be some kind of 'premium' $$$ access charges by the time that happens. Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 7, 2005 12:56 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by railman While highly detailed in some city areas, I find the map quite worthless when it comes to smaller town areas. Agreed. It is useless for my area of interest. Perhaps they will improve it in the future, but for now, the zoom into the mountainous areas of the Adirondacks doesn't come close to that of Terraserver. Color aside, it has a very long way to go to rival terraserver. Wayne Reply Edit railman Member sinceJanuary 2001 From: Midwest 718 posts Posted by railman on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 11:08 PM While highly detailed in some city areas, I find the map quite worthless when it comes to smaller town areas. Understandably, they haven't taken detailed satellite shots of everything, but some of the areas they did, I have to wonder, "why?" For instance, St. Cloud gets the Fuzz while a portion of Monticello, MN and adjoining farmland gets superdetail. Reply mudchicken Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Denver / La Junta 10,820 posts Posted by mudchicken on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 10:33 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by tatans Just checked out a city in Saskatchewan on google maps,seems they are using maps issued for the selling of land in the late 1880's, most of the streets were strictly speculation, a lot of the streets were never built or even recorded, where would they get this information??? I wonder how many satellites there were in 1887. what's going on here??? The joys of Tiger type census maps....Paper streets are platted in government/ provincial/county files. GIS is just like a bunch of other computer data. Garbage In = Garbage Out[:D][:D][:D] Alot of the GIS game is the buying and selling of credible info. Looks like google got some bad old cadastre, never field checked. Mudchicken Nothing is worth taking the risk of losing a life over. Come home tonight in the same condition that you left home this morning in. Safety begins with ME.... cinscocom-west Reply tatans Member sinceMay 2004 4,115 posts Posted by tatans on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 10:23 PM Just checked out a city in Saskatchewan on google maps,seems they are using maps issued for the selling of land in the late 1880's, most of the streets were strictly speculation, a lot of the streets were never built or even recorded, where would they get this information??? I wonder how many satellites there were in 1887. what's going on here??? Reply mustanggt Member sinceOctober 2002 From: Massachusetts 664 posts Posted by mustanggt on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 2:09 PM I'm impressed. But the only weird thing is, I can see one black and 2 lighter dots in my driveway, which are my cars, and My pool out back. Next it'll be people's faces, license plates, or even the painschemes of equipment in your favorite yard[:O] C280 rollin' Reply MP173 Member sinceMay 2004 From: Valparaiso, In 5,921 posts Posted by MP173 on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 1:46 PM I am a huge Terra Server fan, but this could really be great. My area does not yet have the detailed photo, but what i saw was really great for Chicago. Also, the ability to type in a restaurant or any other locale and up it comes....is great. this could seriously impact my productivity...I could spend all day on this. ed Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 1:15 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by chad thomas Did anybody notice under examples one of them is 10 Market st. Not quite 1 but pretty darn close. Gone is the Espee, but not forgotten. I think the building that is marked in the satellite photo is the former home of the Espee and is really No. ONE Market. Jim Reply Edit Jack_S Member sinceDecember 2004 339 posts Posted by Jack_S on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 1:14 PM Very nice. I can see RR cars in the photos of Cajon pass. And I can see my house. But on TerraServer, I could see my house so close I was able, from the pattern of cars parked there, to tell what day of the week the photo was taken and what time of day it was. Reply Mookie Member sinceJune 2001 From: US 13,488 posts Posted by Mookie on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 1:00 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by ottergoose Check out the UP classification yard in North Platte, NE. http://maps.google.com/maps?q=north+platte,NE&ll=41.152586,-100.825599&spn=0.007617,0.010664&t=k&hl=en Impressive - plus it makes North Platte look very, very large! Gotta go look at the Lincoln yards! She who has no signature! cinscocom-tmw Reply locomutt Member sinceSeptember 2003 From: Louisville,Ky. 5,077 posts Posted by locomutt on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 12:59 PM Not bad maps,but couldn't see our house. But it did list a place that is approx.3 doors from us. Being Crazy,keeps you from going "INSANE" !! "The light at the end of the tunnel,has been turned off due to budget cuts" NOT AFRAID A Vet., and PROUD OF IT!! Reply CShaveRR Member sinceJune 2001 From: Lombard (west of Chicago), Illinois 13,681 posts Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 10:37 AM Impressive! Mook, they put me in the middle of the street, too, and pointed to a house two doors up the block from mine. Then I scrolled up to the north of my house toward the tracks, and followed them through our area. It was unbelievable how many trains they caught (would all of these pictures have been taken at roughly the same time?)! It's possible to date these to a couple of years ago, because the shoofly around a grade-separation project, since completed, is shown. Carl Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!) CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM) Reply chad thomas Member sinceJanuary 2005 From: Ely, Nv. 6,312 posts Posted by chad thomas on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 10:17 AM Did anybody notice under examples one of them is 10 Market st. Not quite 1 but pretty darn close. Reply ottergoose Member sinceJanuary 2002 From: Hudson, WI 115 posts Posted by ottergoose on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 10:14 AM Check out the UP classification yard in North Platte, NE. http://maps.google.com/maps?q=north+platte,NE&ll=41.152586,-100.825599&spn=0.007617,0.010664&t=k&hl=en Reply 12 Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
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Originally posted by techguy57 [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:26 AM I heard that the maps are at least 6 months behind real time. [:p][:)] Originally posted by techguy57 Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply techguy57 Member sinceAugust 2003 From: NW Chicago 591 posts Posted by techguy57 on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:21 AM For Carl and all of the other UP folks and fans, a zoom in of Proviso Yard http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=41.897703,-87.908531&spn=0.005890,0.007918&t=k&hl=en techguy "Beware the lollipop of mediocrity. Lick it once and you suck forever." - Anonymous Reply ericsp Member sinceMay 2015 5,134 posts Posted by ericsp on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 11:18 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by Dough Oh and the fact that you can't link to a particular map is frustrating. Click on the "Link to this page" on the right side of the page to get the website address for a particular view "No soup for you!" - Yev Kassem (from Seinfeld) Reply canazar Member sinceAugust 2004 From: Phoenix, Arizona 1,989 posts Posted by canazar on Saturday, April 9, 2005 9:49 PM That North Platte yard was mind blowng. Good greif.... johnk Best Regards, Big John Kiva Valley Railway- Freelanced road in central Arizona. Visit the link to see my MR forum thread on The Building of the Whitton Branch on the Kiva Valley Railway Reply M636C Member sinceJanuary 2002 4,612 posts Posted by M636C on Saturday, April 9, 2005 9:32 PM Cajon Pass is pretty impressive, but the photo changes half way down a train. Still , you can count the cars! They don't have any detail photos of Tehachapi yet, although you can just make out the loop on the big picture. Peter Reply ericsp Member sinceMay 2015 5,134 posts Posted by ericsp on Saturday, April 9, 2005 6:22 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by eastside In comparing to Terra, my impression from features that I'm familiar with is that Google's maps are more up-to-date, even though they say they will deliberately lag by 6-12 months. Some of Terra's maps are years old. Have they ever updated? Note the "Beta" designation below the Google logo. This means that it's a test, not the final version. I guess they're still filling-in some of the missing data. One area I looked at in both Google and Terra Server's "Urban Areas" has the same train in the exact same place. Appearently they used the same photographs, only the :"Urban Areas" allows one to zoom in closer. This would mean that if Terra Server only have "Aerial Photograph" available for an area then Google's photograph would be newer, probably the same for maps. "No soup for you!" - Yev Kassem (from Seinfeld) Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 8, 2005 9:59 PM Its a cool website. Although when looking at the railroad names on the map are out of date. Penn central still exist on the maps. Reply Edit Modelcar Member sinceFebruary 2002 From: Muncie, Indiana...Orig. from Pennsylvania 13,456 posts Posted by Modelcar on Thursday, April 7, 2005 10:34 PM ...My only try with it so far was to put in my address and it rather quickly brought it up but, it was not close enough to be useful....and I couldn't bring it up any closer. On the other hand, TerraServer will go down to about 1 meter resolution....At least it did the last I tried it. If my car would have been sitting in the dirveway...I would have been able to see it but I couldn't even distinguish our home with the Google unit....Just the arrow pointing to where it is.... Quentin Reply mudchicken Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Denver / La Junta 10,820 posts Posted by mudchicken on Thursday, April 7, 2005 7:25 PM Overmod: Now you start to understand why surveyors look at GIS people with a jaundiced view when watching GIS folks market their product. Mudchicken Nothing is worth taking the risk of losing a life over. Come home tonight in the same condition that you left home this morning in. Safety begins with ME.... cinscocom-west Reply Overmod Member sinceSeptember 2003 21,669 posts Posted by Overmod on Thursday, April 7, 2005 7:17 PM There are worse problems with it as currently designed -- A quick test from my present to my old address has the 'best' route between Memphis and Englewood, NJ routed through West Virginia, for heaven's sake, and then via the Beltway and New Jersey Turnpike. Mountains up the wazoo, then tolls up the wazoo, and 56 miles longer to boot! I can't figure out what they're thinking... Then I try to pick up 51 Prospect in Princeton, and no matter what I do it goes to South Brunswick. No excuse for this other than idiots. None. Even for beta software, this is ridiculous. The thing that *really* bothers me is that it's a crapshoot whether or not stuff like this gets fixed. Yes, it's nice to have satellite pix, and yes, it loads really fast. But that's simple 21st-century server-side functionality. Be nice for Google to tie into all these municipality and county GIS systems as well as satellite imaging -- but I'd almost bet there will be some kind of 'premium' $$$ access charges by the time that happens. Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 7, 2005 12:56 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by railman While highly detailed in some city areas, I find the map quite worthless when it comes to smaller town areas. Agreed. It is useless for my area of interest. Perhaps they will improve it in the future, but for now, the zoom into the mountainous areas of the Adirondacks doesn't come close to that of Terraserver. Color aside, it has a very long way to go to rival terraserver. Wayne Reply Edit railman Member sinceJanuary 2001 From: Midwest 718 posts Posted by railman on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 11:08 PM While highly detailed in some city areas, I find the map quite worthless when it comes to smaller town areas. Understandably, they haven't taken detailed satellite shots of everything, but some of the areas they did, I have to wonder, "why?" For instance, St. Cloud gets the Fuzz while a portion of Monticello, MN and adjoining farmland gets superdetail. Reply mudchicken Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Denver / La Junta 10,820 posts Posted by mudchicken on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 10:33 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by tatans Just checked out a city in Saskatchewan on google maps,seems they are using maps issued for the selling of land in the late 1880's, most of the streets were strictly speculation, a lot of the streets were never built or even recorded, where would they get this information??? I wonder how many satellites there were in 1887. what's going on here??? The joys of Tiger type census maps....Paper streets are platted in government/ provincial/county files. GIS is just like a bunch of other computer data. Garbage In = Garbage Out[:D][:D][:D] Alot of the GIS game is the buying and selling of credible info. Looks like google got some bad old cadastre, never field checked. Mudchicken Nothing is worth taking the risk of losing a life over. Come home tonight in the same condition that you left home this morning in. Safety begins with ME.... cinscocom-west Reply tatans Member sinceMay 2004 4,115 posts Posted by tatans on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 10:23 PM Just checked out a city in Saskatchewan on google maps,seems they are using maps issued for the selling of land in the late 1880's, most of the streets were strictly speculation, a lot of the streets were never built or even recorded, where would they get this information??? I wonder how many satellites there were in 1887. what's going on here??? Reply mustanggt Member sinceOctober 2002 From: Massachusetts 664 posts Posted by mustanggt on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 2:09 PM I'm impressed. But the only weird thing is, I can see one black and 2 lighter dots in my driveway, which are my cars, and My pool out back. Next it'll be people's faces, license plates, or even the painschemes of equipment in your favorite yard[:O] C280 rollin' Reply MP173 Member sinceMay 2004 From: Valparaiso, In 5,921 posts Posted by MP173 on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 1:46 PM I am a huge Terra Server fan, but this could really be great. My area does not yet have the detailed photo, but what i saw was really great for Chicago. Also, the ability to type in a restaurant or any other locale and up it comes....is great. this could seriously impact my productivity...I could spend all day on this. ed Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 1:15 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by chad thomas Did anybody notice under examples one of them is 10 Market st. Not quite 1 but pretty darn close. Gone is the Espee, but not forgotten. I think the building that is marked in the satellite photo is the former home of the Espee and is really No. ONE Market. Jim Reply Edit Jack_S Member sinceDecember 2004 339 posts Posted by Jack_S on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 1:14 PM Very nice. I can see RR cars in the photos of Cajon pass. And I can see my house. But on TerraServer, I could see my house so close I was able, from the pattern of cars parked there, to tell what day of the week the photo was taken and what time of day it was. Reply Mookie Member sinceJune 2001 From: US 13,488 posts Posted by Mookie on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 1:00 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by ottergoose Check out the UP classification yard in North Platte, NE. http://maps.google.com/maps?q=north+platte,NE&ll=41.152586,-100.825599&spn=0.007617,0.010664&t=k&hl=en Impressive - plus it makes North Platte look very, very large! Gotta go look at the Lincoln yards! She who has no signature! cinscocom-tmw Reply locomutt Member sinceSeptember 2003 From: Louisville,Ky. 5,077 posts Posted by locomutt on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 12:59 PM Not bad maps,but couldn't see our house. But it did list a place that is approx.3 doors from us. Being Crazy,keeps you from going "INSANE" !! "The light at the end of the tunnel,has been turned off due to budget cuts" NOT AFRAID A Vet., and PROUD OF IT!! Reply CShaveRR Member sinceJune 2001 From: Lombard (west of Chicago), Illinois 13,681 posts Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 10:37 AM Impressive! Mook, they put me in the middle of the street, too, and pointed to a house two doors up the block from mine. Then I scrolled up to the north of my house toward the tracks, and followed them through our area. It was unbelievable how many trains they caught (would all of these pictures have been taken at roughly the same time?)! It's possible to date these to a couple of years ago, because the shoofly around a grade-separation project, since completed, is shown. Carl Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!) CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM) Reply chad thomas Member sinceJanuary 2005 From: Ely, Nv. 6,312 posts Posted by chad thomas on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 10:17 AM Did anybody notice under examples one of them is 10 Market st. Not quite 1 but pretty darn close. Reply ottergoose Member sinceJanuary 2002 From: Hudson, WI 115 posts Posted by ottergoose on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 10:14 AM Check out the UP classification yard in North Platte, NE. http://maps.google.com/maps?q=north+platte,NE&ll=41.152586,-100.825599&spn=0.007617,0.010664&t=k&hl=en Reply 12 Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub
Originally posted by techguy57 Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply techguy57 Member sinceAugust 2003 From: NW Chicago 591 posts Posted by techguy57 on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:21 AM For Carl and all of the other UP folks and fans, a zoom in of Proviso Yard http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=41.897703,-87.908531&spn=0.005890,0.007918&t=k&hl=en techguy "Beware the lollipop of mediocrity. Lick it once and you suck forever." - Anonymous Reply ericsp Member sinceMay 2015 5,134 posts Posted by ericsp on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 11:18 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by Dough Oh and the fact that you can't link to a particular map is frustrating. Click on the "Link to this page" on the right side of the page to get the website address for a particular view "No soup for you!" - Yev Kassem (from Seinfeld) Reply canazar Member sinceAugust 2004 From: Phoenix, Arizona 1,989 posts Posted by canazar on Saturday, April 9, 2005 9:49 PM That North Platte yard was mind blowng. Good greif.... johnk Best Regards, Big John Kiva Valley Railway- Freelanced road in central Arizona. Visit the link to see my MR forum thread on The Building of the Whitton Branch on the Kiva Valley Railway Reply M636C Member sinceJanuary 2002 4,612 posts Posted by M636C on Saturday, April 9, 2005 9:32 PM Cajon Pass is pretty impressive, but the photo changes half way down a train. Still , you can count the cars! They don't have any detail photos of Tehachapi yet, although you can just make out the loop on the big picture. Peter Reply ericsp Member sinceMay 2015 5,134 posts Posted by ericsp on Saturday, April 9, 2005 6:22 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by eastside In comparing to Terra, my impression from features that I'm familiar with is that Google's maps are more up-to-date, even though they say they will deliberately lag by 6-12 months. Some of Terra's maps are years old. Have they ever updated? Note the "Beta" designation below the Google logo. This means that it's a test, not the final version. I guess they're still filling-in some of the missing data. One area I looked at in both Google and Terra Server's "Urban Areas" has the same train in the exact same place. Appearently they used the same photographs, only the :"Urban Areas" allows one to zoom in closer. This would mean that if Terra Server only have "Aerial Photograph" available for an area then Google's photograph would be newer, probably the same for maps. "No soup for you!" - Yev Kassem (from Seinfeld) Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 8, 2005 9:59 PM Its a cool website. Although when looking at the railroad names on the map are out of date. Penn central still exist on the maps. Reply Edit Modelcar Member sinceFebruary 2002 From: Muncie, Indiana...Orig. from Pennsylvania 13,456 posts Posted by Modelcar on Thursday, April 7, 2005 10:34 PM ...My only try with it so far was to put in my address and it rather quickly brought it up but, it was not close enough to be useful....and I couldn't bring it up any closer. On the other hand, TerraServer will go down to about 1 meter resolution....At least it did the last I tried it. If my car would have been sitting in the dirveway...I would have been able to see it but I couldn't even distinguish our home with the Google unit....Just the arrow pointing to where it is.... Quentin Reply mudchicken Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Denver / La Junta 10,820 posts Posted by mudchicken on Thursday, April 7, 2005 7:25 PM Overmod: Now you start to understand why surveyors look at GIS people with a jaundiced view when watching GIS folks market their product. Mudchicken Nothing is worth taking the risk of losing a life over. Come home tonight in the same condition that you left home this morning in. Safety begins with ME.... cinscocom-west Reply Overmod Member sinceSeptember 2003 21,669 posts Posted by Overmod on Thursday, April 7, 2005 7:17 PM There are worse problems with it as currently designed -- A quick test from my present to my old address has the 'best' route between Memphis and Englewood, NJ routed through West Virginia, for heaven's sake, and then via the Beltway and New Jersey Turnpike. Mountains up the wazoo, then tolls up the wazoo, and 56 miles longer to boot! I can't figure out what they're thinking... Then I try to pick up 51 Prospect in Princeton, and no matter what I do it goes to South Brunswick. No excuse for this other than idiots. None. Even for beta software, this is ridiculous. The thing that *really* bothers me is that it's a crapshoot whether or not stuff like this gets fixed. Yes, it's nice to have satellite pix, and yes, it loads really fast. But that's simple 21st-century server-side functionality. Be nice for Google to tie into all these municipality and county GIS systems as well as satellite imaging -- but I'd almost bet there will be some kind of 'premium' $$$ access charges by the time that happens. Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 7, 2005 12:56 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by railman While highly detailed in some city areas, I find the map quite worthless when it comes to smaller town areas. Agreed. It is useless for my area of interest. Perhaps they will improve it in the future, but for now, the zoom into the mountainous areas of the Adirondacks doesn't come close to that of Terraserver. Color aside, it has a very long way to go to rival terraserver. Wayne Reply Edit railman Member sinceJanuary 2001 From: Midwest 718 posts Posted by railman on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 11:08 PM While highly detailed in some city areas, I find the map quite worthless when it comes to smaller town areas. Understandably, they haven't taken detailed satellite shots of everything, but some of the areas they did, I have to wonder, "why?" For instance, St. Cloud gets the Fuzz while a portion of Monticello, MN and adjoining farmland gets superdetail. Reply mudchicken Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Denver / La Junta 10,820 posts Posted by mudchicken on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 10:33 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by tatans Just checked out a city in Saskatchewan on google maps,seems they are using maps issued for the selling of land in the late 1880's, most of the streets were strictly speculation, a lot of the streets were never built or even recorded, where would they get this information??? I wonder how many satellites there were in 1887. what's going on here??? The joys of Tiger type census maps....Paper streets are platted in government/ provincial/county files. GIS is just like a bunch of other computer data. Garbage In = Garbage Out[:D][:D][:D] Alot of the GIS game is the buying and selling of credible info. Looks like google got some bad old cadastre, never field checked. Mudchicken Nothing is worth taking the risk of losing a life over. Come home tonight in the same condition that you left home this morning in. Safety begins with ME.... cinscocom-west Reply tatans Member sinceMay 2004 4,115 posts Posted by tatans on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 10:23 PM Just checked out a city in Saskatchewan on google maps,seems they are using maps issued for the selling of land in the late 1880's, most of the streets were strictly speculation, a lot of the streets were never built or even recorded, where would they get this information??? I wonder how many satellites there were in 1887. what's going on here??? Reply mustanggt Member sinceOctober 2002 From: Massachusetts 664 posts Posted by mustanggt on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 2:09 PM I'm impressed. But the only weird thing is, I can see one black and 2 lighter dots in my driveway, which are my cars, and My pool out back. Next it'll be people's faces, license plates, or even the painschemes of equipment in your favorite yard[:O] C280 rollin' Reply MP173 Member sinceMay 2004 From: Valparaiso, In 5,921 posts Posted by MP173 on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 1:46 PM I am a huge Terra Server fan, but this could really be great. My area does not yet have the detailed photo, but what i saw was really great for Chicago. Also, the ability to type in a restaurant or any other locale and up it comes....is great. this could seriously impact my productivity...I could spend all day on this. ed Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 1:15 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by chad thomas Did anybody notice under examples one of them is 10 Market st. Not quite 1 but pretty darn close. Gone is the Espee, but not forgotten. I think the building that is marked in the satellite photo is the former home of the Espee and is really No. ONE Market. Jim Reply Edit Jack_S Member sinceDecember 2004 339 posts Posted by Jack_S on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 1:14 PM Very nice. I can see RR cars in the photos of Cajon pass. And I can see my house. But on TerraServer, I could see my house so close I was able, from the pattern of cars parked there, to tell what day of the week the photo was taken and what time of day it was. Reply Mookie Member sinceJune 2001 From: US 13,488 posts Posted by Mookie on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 1:00 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by ottergoose Check out the UP classification yard in North Platte, NE. http://maps.google.com/maps?q=north+platte,NE&ll=41.152586,-100.825599&spn=0.007617,0.010664&t=k&hl=en Impressive - plus it makes North Platte look very, very large! Gotta go look at the Lincoln yards! She who has no signature! cinscocom-tmw Reply locomutt Member sinceSeptember 2003 From: Louisville,Ky. 5,077 posts Posted by locomutt on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 12:59 PM Not bad maps,but couldn't see our house. But it did list a place that is approx.3 doors from us. Being Crazy,keeps you from going "INSANE" !! "The light at the end of the tunnel,has been turned off due to budget cuts" NOT AFRAID A Vet., and PROUD OF IT!! Reply CShaveRR Member sinceJune 2001 From: Lombard (west of Chicago), Illinois 13,681 posts Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 10:37 AM Impressive! Mook, they put me in the middle of the street, too, and pointed to a house two doors up the block from mine. Then I scrolled up to the north of my house toward the tracks, and followed them through our area. It was unbelievable how many trains they caught (would all of these pictures have been taken at roughly the same time?)! It's possible to date these to a couple of years ago, because the shoofly around a grade-separation project, since completed, is shown. Carl Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!) CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM) Reply chad thomas Member sinceJanuary 2005 From: Ely, Nv. 6,312 posts Posted by chad thomas on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 10:17 AM Did anybody notice under examples one of them is 10 Market st. Not quite 1 but pretty darn close. Reply ottergoose Member sinceJanuary 2002 From: Hudson, WI 115 posts Posted by ottergoose on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 10:14 AM Check out the UP classification yard in North Platte, NE. http://maps.google.com/maps?q=north+platte,NE&ll=41.152586,-100.825599&spn=0.007617,0.010664&t=k&hl=en Reply 12 Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
QUOTE: Originally posted by Dough Oh and the fact that you can't link to a particular map is frustrating.
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QUOTE: Originally posted by eastside In comparing to Terra, my impression from features that I'm familiar with is that Google's maps are more up-to-date, even though they say they will deliberately lag by 6-12 months. Some of Terra's maps are years old. Have they ever updated? Note the "Beta" designation below the Google logo. This means that it's a test, not the final version. I guess they're still filling-in some of the missing data.
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QUOTE: Originally posted by railman While highly detailed in some city areas, I find the map quite worthless when it comes to smaller town areas.
QUOTE: Originally posted by tatans Just checked out a city in Saskatchewan on google maps,seems they are using maps issued for the selling of land in the late 1880's, most of the streets were strictly speculation, a lot of the streets were never built or even recorded, where would they get this information??? I wonder how many satellites there were in 1887. what's going on here???
QUOTE: Originally posted by chad thomas Did anybody notice under examples one of them is 10 Market st. Not quite 1 but pretty darn close.
QUOTE: Originally posted by ottergoose Check out the UP classification yard in North Platte, NE. http://maps.google.com/maps?q=north+platte,NE&ll=41.152586,-100.825599&spn=0.007617,0.010664&t=k&hl=en
She who has no signature! cinscocom-tmw
Being Crazy,keeps you from going "INSANE" !! "The light at the end of the tunnel,has been turned off due to budget cuts" NOT AFRAID A Vet., and PROUD OF IT!!
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CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM)
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