What happens if a train loses brakeshoes on a hill?

[Sterling1]

Losing the air and dynamic brakes on a hill can be messy, but I wonder if losing brakeshoes while going down a hill is messier.

Feel free to comment and answer.

[edblysard]

No,
Losing both the air and the dynamics on a hill is called a derailment in action....

Losing a brake shoe/shoes is called a bad order car/cars for the rip track when you yard the train.

Brake shoes get thrown all the time...no big deal.

Walk along any line with heavy traffic, you will find brake shoes, both brand new, and old worn out ones, all along the ROW.

Ed

[Anonymous]

So the brakes of the "other" cars are enough to stop the train?

[locomutt]

QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

No,
Losing both the air and the dynamics on a hill is called a derailment in action....

Losing a brake shoe/shoes is called a bad order car/cars for the rip track when you yard the train.

Brake shoes get thrown all the time...no big deal.

Walk along any line with heavy traffic, you will find brake shoes, both brand new, and old worn out ones, all along the ROW.

Ed

I like what Ed said,Losing brakes,etc. on a hill could be a disaster in the
making. I've never experienced it, but this sounds like something Disney
would use at Disneyland or Disney World.

[ValleyX]

Brakeshoes on one car out of a hundred car train isn't going to make much of a difference. Ed is right, you can find brakeshoes scattered all over a right-of-way.

[BNSFGP38]

Ahh, but a good engineer wouldnt **** away his air to get in that situation.[C):-)]

[CSXrules4eva]

Yes Ed is right. Loseing brake shoes on a car or a locomotive on a hill, lol isn't all that bad. It's bad but it's not that bad. The train will still come to a stop as long as you still had dynamic brakes and enough air pressure. When the brakes are applied the backing plate would most likely dig a grove into the side of the wheel. They you'd be runing into other problems but other that that the friction produced by that would aid to stoping or slowing down the train.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by BNSFGP38

Ahh, but a good engineer wouldnt **** away his air to get in that situation.[C):-)]

And just where would you find a good Hoghead ?????