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Originally posted by fuzzybroken [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:41 AM Post your unwanted Photo's here: http://rrpicturearchives.net BNSFrailfan. Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:54 AM In the world of graphic images, the creators of such materials have to get used to rejections. Believe me I know how frustrating that can be. I submit some of my best paintings and illustrations and get the "Big R." Ya never know what's going on with the rejector. I have prospective clients calling my rep, who see my work in Illustrators Workbook, just to tell him why they won't use my work. And it's good stuff to boot. Years ago, when I worked in the office of the railroad, I had a colleague say,"Face it Mitch, we're railroaders. We have to learn to thrive on rejection." Mitch Reply Edit locomutt Member sinceSeptember 2003 From: Louisville,Ky. 5,077 posts Posted by locomutt on Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:15 AM Those are really good pictures. Possibly the contrast was off on a couple of the first ones,but they are still good shots. I like Ed's comment,I think that is, how they do things there; I've had several 'rejected' from their site also. And those rejected because of 'bad angle';now how are you supposed to get a better angle,hang from the 'catwalk',or get them at ground level where you would be trespassing. Being Crazy,keeps you from going "INSANE" !! "The light at the end of the tunnel,has been turned off due to budget cuts" NOT AFRAID A Vet., and PROUD OF IT!! Reply tree68 Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Northern New York 24,888 posts Posted by tree68 on Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:26 AM Sometimes you wonder what would happen (legal considerations notwithstanding) if you were to pirate a picture off a site like that and submit it. Assuming they didn't pick up on the fact that they already had the shot in their collection, it would be interesting to hear why they rejected it when they'd already accepted it once... Could be, too, that you just aren't in their good graces yet. I've seen too many instances in life where something was accepted because of who produced it, rather than what it was. Larry Resident Microferroequinologist (at least at my house) Everyone goes home; Safety begins with you My Opinion. Standard Disclaimers Apply. No Expiration Date Come ride the rails with me! There's one thing about humility - the moment you think you've got it, you've lost it... Reply emd_SD_60 Member sinceOctober 2004 From: Carbondale, Illinois 169 posts Posted by emd_SD_60 on Thursday, March 31, 2005 2:55 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard Fuzzy, I think the people who accept/decline photos for railpictures dont get a constant grade of crack...some days they are accepting junk there, other, they reject really good photos... Dont sweat the load...its their loss. Congrats to you and Debbie.... any little fuzzies planned? Ed Railpictures.net? F*** them.[:(!] http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/ is a lot better! Take your pictures there, they hardly reject any.[;)] My pics @ emd_sd_60.rrpicturearchives.net! Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:12 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by emd_SD_60 QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard Fuzzy, I think the people who accept/decline photos for railpictures dont get a constant grade of crack...some days they are accepting junk there, other, they reject really good photos... Dont sweat the load...its their loss. Congrats to you and Debbie.... any little fuzzies planned? Ed Railpictures.net? F*** them.[:(!] http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/ is a lot better! Take your pictures there, they hardly reject any.[;)] I totaly couldn't agree more! BNSFrailfan. Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:49 PM In your first photo, I think maybe they wanted to see more of the goose at the right edge Wayne Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:50 PM I've seen pictures just like those on Railpictures.net before. Who knows what their smoking today. Other than rrpicturearchives.net you could go to rr-fallenflags.org and send your pictures to George there. He knows a decent picture when he sees it. Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:43 PM I see no reason to consider these bad in any way. Composition is generally very good, jubject matter good, several are quite nice, including the crane--good "men at work" shorts along with the head-on switch move. And too dark? More like some are overexposed on a cloudy day to get the detail--what's wrong with that? Good pix! And congratulations Fuzzy and Debbie. May you have many happy anniversaries! Reply Edit eastside Member sinceMarch 2001 From: New York City 805 posts Posted by eastside on Friday, April 1, 2005 1:11 AM Good pics technically. As for the first, I could see why the reviewer my have wanted a more tightly cropped composition, but to say "poor cropping" is a bit overboard, IMO. Actually I like the image's contrast because the subject is sharp and the background is less noticeable, as it should be. The second image has a good subject but has some distracting elements -- the wires in the UL, the chimney in the background, and could be more tightly cropped in the right to eliminate the fence post. You might have gotten closer to the crane to avoid the foreground elements and make the distracting background elements relatively smaller. The third is technically fine; maybe the reviewer just didn't find it very interesting? The fourth has the same "problems" as the first but the shadow lighting de-emphasizes the subject. I guess the last appears out of the vertical. I never thought railfans were that picky esthetically. Maybe this site is the first. I consider most of the problems minor and fixable in Photoshop. Maybe you could fix them and resubmit? Reply DPD1 Member sinceAugust 2004 484 posts Posted by DPD1 on Friday, April 1, 2005 1:34 PM It appears to me that the person (or persons) that are in charge of editing on that site, are obviously a bit narrow-minded in their view of what an "appropriate" photo is. They seem to take the concept of train photography a little too simplistically, as they appear to only be satisfied with photos that show a train, and ONLY a train. Which is pretty ridiculous. Photos showing the surroundings a bit can often times be the most interesting as they age. I think yours are perfectly acceptable, and the people running that site maybe need to take in a few art classes at their local university. Server space is cheap now... Start your own site and do whatever you want. Dave -DPD Productions - Home of the TrainTenna RR Monitoring Antenna- http://eje.railfan.net/dpdp/ Reply UPTRAIN Member sinceJune 2002 From: Independence, MO 1,570 posts Posted by UPTRAIN on Friday, April 1, 2005 9:16 PM Put your pix where I do... http://www.rrpicturearchives.net ! I told railpictures.net to f*** themselves when they told me bad motive...I think it's not up to them to tell me if I have a "bad motive" to my own dang photos...I told them to delete my membership and shove it. Pump Reply UPTRAIN Member sinceJune 2002 From: Independence, MO 1,570 posts Posted by UPTRAIN on Friday, April 1, 2005 9:19 PM Oh yeah...no pop-ups on the site I belong to, unlike the 3 on railpix.net. Pump Reply DPD1 Member sinceAugust 2004 484 posts Posted by DPD1 on Sunday, April 3, 2005 1:00 PM Bad motive? What the heck does that mean? Dave -DPD Productions - Home of the TrainTenna RR Monitoring Antenna- http://eje.railfan.net/dpdp/ Reply fuzzybroken Member sinceOctober 2002 From: Milwaukee, WI, US 1,384 posts Posted by fuzzybroken on Sunday, April 3, 2005 4:19 PM Thanks, everybody, for the replies! Some of 'em had me ROFLMAO... I'll answer a few of 'em here: QUOTE: Originally posted by chad thomas I looked at the photos and one thing that I saw is the color looks faded. Especialy the first few. They look milkey. Other than that they look good to me. Good Composure too. One of the disadvantages of digital photography is the way they end up on the screen. On one person's screen a photo might look fine, while on somebody else's the same photo looks dark, on another's it looks too light! This matter has been discussed before in Trackside with Erik and Mike. I have learned that RP.net likes their photos to be on the light side, and have been processing my submitted photos likewise. On the other hand, the pictures that I "keep" are usually a little darker than those I submit to RP.net. QUOTE: Originally posted by zardoz I sure cannot understand why all of those were rejected. Most of the images I have seen on railpictures.net were of equal (or less) quality than yours. Sure, some are better, but lots are worse.I actually put a bunch of questionable-quality photos in my "Bookmarks" ("Favorites" for you IE users) to use as ammo for appeals, although I doubt any would pass appeal. Oh well. QUOTE: Maybe you caught them on a bad day.That would be my guess... QUOTE: zardozHey, Fuzzy..... Congratulation on the wedding!QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard Fuzzy, I think the people who accept/decline photos for railpictures dont get a constant grade of crack...some days they are accepting junk there, other, they reject really good photos... Dont sweat the load...its their loss. Congrats to you and Debbie.... any little fuzzies planned? EdThanks for the wedding congrats! Yes, we're planning a family, but not for a little while. Lots of stuff to finish up yet (including moving), and a little more railfanning to do! [;)] QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed So you have no more frustrations in the future why not build your own web site[?] QUOTE: Originally posted by fuzzybroken Originally posted by DPD1 It appears to me that the person (or persons) that are in charge of editing on that site, are obviously a bit narrow-minded in their view of what an "appropriate" photo is. They seem to take the concept of train photography a little too simplistically, as they appear to only be satisfied with photos that show a train, and ONLY a train. Which is pretty ridiculous. Photos showing the surroundings a bit can often times be the most interesting as they age. I think yours are perfectly acceptable, and the people running that site maybe need to take in a few art classes at their local university. Server space is cheap now... Start your own site and do whatever you want. Dave -DPD Productions - Home of the TrainTenna RR Monitoring Antenna- http://eje.railfan.net/dpdp/Well, I do have my own site... http://www.geocities.com/fuzzybroken ... but I still try to get a few pix on RP.net. QUOTE: Originally posted by tree68 Sometimes you wonder what would happen (legal considerations notwithstanding) if you were to pirate a picture off a site like that and submit it. Assuming they didn't pick up on the fact that they already had the shot in their collection, it would be interesting to hear why they rejected it when they'd already accepted it once... I think I actually sorta had that happen once, and it was my computer's fault. Somehow I ended up uploading the same photo three times, the first one was rejected, the second accepted, and the third rejected for "duplicate photo"! Too bad I don't remember which one... [:o] QUOTE: Originally posted by drephpe I see no reason to consider these bad in any way. Composition is generally very good, jubject matter good, several are quite nice, including the crane--good "men at work" shorts along with the head-on switch move. And too dark? More like some are overexposed on a cloudy day to get the detail--what's wrong with that? Good pix! And congratulations Fuzzy and Debbie. May you have many happy anniversaries! Yeah, that's kinda why I take some of those photos, and why I like to chase the local trains, and hang out near the yards... All kinds of interesting things to get pictures of, just gotta look around. Again, thanks to all! -Mark http://www.geocities.com/fuzzybroken -Fuzzy Fuzzy World 3 Reply espeefoamer Member sinceNovember 2003 From: West Coast 4,122 posts Posted by espeefoamer on Sunday, April 3, 2005 4:57 PM I don't do digital photography,so don't submit photos to Railpictures,but I subscribed so I could comment on pictures.Whenever I write a comment,then clik on "submit comment" the screen goes blank,and my comment dissapears.Anyone else have this problem? Ride Amtrak. Cats Rule, Dogs Drool. Reply fuzzybroken Member sinceOctober 2002 From: Milwaukee, WI, US 1,384 posts Posted by fuzzybroken on Sunday, April 3, 2005 5:43 PM espeefoamer, What browser are you using? If you use Netscape or FireFox, RP.net has problems. Use Internet Explorer or the browser packaged in Juno or AOL (which is also, coincidentally, IE). Sorry, but you'll just have to put up with the @#$%!^&* pop-ups [banghead]. What the heck, that's how they afford to keep the site up and running [sigh]. -Mark http://www.geocities.com/fuzzybroken -Fuzzy Fuzzy World 3 Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
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Being Crazy,keeps you from going "INSANE" !! "The light at the end of the tunnel,has been turned off due to budget cuts" NOT AFRAID A Vet., and PROUD OF IT!!
Larry Resident Microferroequinologist (at least at my house) Everyone goes home; Safety begins with you My Opinion. Standard Disclaimers Apply. No Expiration Date Come ride the rails with me! There's one thing about humility - the moment you think you've got it, you've lost it...
QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard Fuzzy, I think the people who accept/decline photos for railpictures dont get a constant grade of crack...some days they are accepting junk there, other, they reject really good photos... Dont sweat the load...its their loss. Congrats to you and Debbie.... any little fuzzies planned? Ed
QUOTE: Originally posted by emd_SD_60 QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard Fuzzy, I think the people who accept/decline photos for railpictures dont get a constant grade of crack...some days they are accepting junk there, other, they reject really good photos... Dont sweat the load...its their loss. Congrats to you and Debbie.... any little fuzzies planned? Ed Railpictures.net? F*** them.[:(!] http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/ is a lot better! Take your pictures there, they hardly reject any.[;)]
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QUOTE: Originally posted by chad thomas I looked at the photos and one thing that I saw is the color looks faded. Especialy the first few. They look milkey. Other than that they look good to me. Good Composure too.
QUOTE: Originally posted by zardoz I sure cannot understand why all of those were rejected. Most of the images I have seen on railpictures.net were of equal (or less) quality than yours. Sure, some are better, but lots are worse.
QUOTE: Maybe you caught them on a bad day.
QUOTE: zardozHey, Fuzzy..... Congratulation on the wedding!
QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed So you have no more frustrations in the future why not build your own web site[?] QUOTE: Originally posted by fuzzybroken Originally posted by DPD1 It appears to me that the person (or persons) that are in charge of editing on that site, are obviously a bit narrow-minded in their view of what an "appropriate" photo is. They seem to take the concept of train photography a little too simplistically, as they appear to only be satisfied with photos that show a train, and ONLY a train. Which is pretty ridiculous. Photos showing the surroundings a bit can often times be the most interesting as they age. I think yours are perfectly acceptable, and the people running that site maybe need to take in a few art classes at their local university. Server space is cheap now... Start your own site and do whatever you want. Dave -DPD Productions - Home of the TrainTenna RR Monitoring Antenna- http://eje.railfan.net/dpdp/
QUOTE: Originally posted by fuzzybroken
QUOTE: Originally posted by tree68 Sometimes you wonder what would happen (legal considerations notwithstanding) if you were to pirate a picture off a site like that and submit it. Assuming they didn't pick up on the fact that they already had the shot in their collection, it would be interesting to hear why they rejected it when they'd already accepted it once...
QUOTE: Originally posted by drephpe I see no reason to consider these bad in any way. Composition is generally very good, jubject matter good, several are quite nice, including the crane--good "men at work" shorts along with the head-on switch move. And too dark? More like some are overexposed on a cloudy day to get the detail--what's wrong with that? Good pix! And congratulations Fuzzy and Debbie. May you have many happy anniversaries!
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