Short train = no FRED?

[Anonymous]

CSX Engineer,

Is it not correct that you always, at a minimum on any FRA-regulated rail line, need to have an accurate air gage on board the train? I do not mean to say that it needs to be connected (cut-in) to the rear end of the train throughout the entire trip, but rather that one is available for use should you have to set more than one string of freight or passenger cars out en route, which would then requrie a Class 2 brake inspection.

I know that EOT's are not required on all trains, unless you are operating a train where EOT or 2-way EOT capability is required by Special Instructions or Timetable, or operating a train that requires 2-way EOT capability under Subpart E of Part 232 air brake requirements.

Confirmation or clarification would be appreciated [:)]

~ Scott ~

[csxengineer98]

QUOTE: Originally posted by drfizzix

CSX Engineer,

Is it not correct that you always, at a minimum on any FRA-regulated rail line, need to have an accurate air gage on board the train? I do not mean to say that it needs to be connected (cut-in) to the rear end of the train throughout the entire trip, but rather that one is available for use should you have to set more than one string of freight or passenger cars out en route, which would then requrie a Class 2 brake inspection.

I know that EOT's are not required on all trains, unless you are operating a train where EOT or 2-way EOT capability is required by Special Instructions or Timetable, or operating a train that requires 2-way EOT capability under Subpart E of Part 232 air brake requirements.

Confirmation or clarification would be appreciated [:)]

~ Scott ~

you need an air gage to do any type of brake test...and that is where the EOT comes in to play..you can use it to do a brake test...but what im am saying is... you dont need an EOT on evey train...thier are some situations where a red flag by day..and just a red marker by night are all that is needed...if your on a local that as 2 cars..and your going only a few miles down the main...you dont realy need to have an EOT...a red flag is good...... the flag shows the end of the train..all rear ends have to be protected by some type of red marker... and in the case of this local...with only a handfull of cars....the cars would have been tested in the yard..either by the crew..with a hand held air gage..or a carman that inspected the cars...put them on yard air..and gave the crew an airslip stating the cars where infact pretested and on ground air...then all that is needed is an application and relase of the last car...and the forman can see that just by watching the piston of the last car apply and relase....
csx engineer

[csxengineer98]

also..let me clarify something... the posting 2 posts ago.... you need to have some kind of air reading to know your train is intact after a stop befor you start to pull....or when you cut a crossing and retie on...so you know that you have air going through the whole train....but in the case of a 2 car local... the crew can just look out the side mirror and see if they train is cut by some vandels..so and EOT is not realy needed....
csx engineer

[Rodney Beck]

Hey CSX it sounds like they are tring to nuke everything out with the etd. We are the ones who operates and knows the requirements for our train.

Rodney
Locomotive Engineer BNSF

[csxengineer98]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Rodney Beck

Hey CSX it sounds like they are tring to nuke everything out with the etd. We are the ones who operates and knows the requirements for our train.

Rodney
Locomotive Engineer BNSF

i never said that you didnt know the requirements...i am saying this is what we do here..and its 100% legal....your rules might be differnt then mine... also..i am trying to explain for people that dont know....
csx engineer