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Originally posted by Sterling1 [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Saturday, March 26, 2005 8:05 AM 100% agree. See my post below! [:o)][:I][:D] Originally posted by CopCarSS Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Saturday, March 26, 2005 8:13 AM Well great for those women who work with you. However, my opinion is the reason you see woman on excursion trains is beacuse it is a what I will call a "family thing" . As for train shows which I also attend & at least in my part of the USA the only reason a woman is there is because her & her hubby are going somewhere after the show. Just as a analogy I once asked a waitress in her opinion who drank more de-cafe man or woman. The waitress said by far woman by 9 to 1 over man. That is just about the % I of man to woman I see at the train shows I attend. [:o)][:I] Originally posted by Dale Trongale For Sterling1 (and anyone else interested) Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 26, 2005 5:24 PM There is a good percentage of females on the rr in all crafts but hardly any of them I would believe have very little interest in trains and are not railfans. Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 26, 2005 5:48 PM There some things that men like more than women and that women like more than men. But to try to put into words what I feel, as a woman, what I feel inside upon hearing a train whistle or the rumble of its locomotive coming up a steep grade, well, there are no words. How many of you men developed your first interest in trains when your mom helped you count train cars while stopped at a crossing? Or how many of you were filled with stories of far away places that the trains might be going? Was your Mom as unknowning railfan? Railfans, rail buffs, rail workers, rail historians, we all love trains. Are there any real statistics out there as to the number of female workers on RR's and their particular crafts? Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 26, 2005 9:19 PM I've had a number of girlfriends over the years, as well as an ex-wife (thank God for the ex part...), and not any of them cared for trains-or The Three Stooges. The only female I've ever know that had any kind of interest in trains is my 70 year old mom. If she even suspects that I'm going train chasing, she grabs her purse and says I'm going too!. She even carries a camera around with her just in case she's out and about and sees a good photo opportunity. And what a collection of pictures she's got... Reply Edit JoeKoh Member sinceApril 2003 From: Defiance Ohio 13,286 posts Posted by JoeKoh on Saturday, March 26, 2005 10:08 PM Day I proposed to future wife I got her with a csx dash 8 coming by here in town.Just last week she was trying her hand at pictures from the van while pacing an ns train on the way home.shes getting good stay safe Joe Deshler Ohio-crossroads of the B&O Matt eats your fries.YUM! Clinton st viaduct undefeated against too tall trucks!!!(voted to be called the "Clinton St. can opener"). Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 26, 2005 10:11 PM My late great aunt, bless her heart she was a wonderful aunt, lived across from the Santa Fe trks in Wichita,KS for 24 yrs (1948-1972) and never took a single picture of any ATSF train passing in front of her house. If she would have done some type of yr by yr photo album, there would have been enough to fill up a issue for a Morning Sun book. Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 27, 2005 4:09 AM My wife has become a railfan since we first started dating. I asked her why one day, and she loyally said "because it's special to you, and it's something I never noticed before." She has also become a rabid hockey fan... and before we get into the beating of chest male thingie about hockey, let me just add that the vast majority of the booster organization is made up of.... women. Erik Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 27, 2005 9:38 AM Think about it for a minute: For the first 150 years of railroading, the expected roles in society were fairly clearly defined. Employment operating trains (i.e. Engineers, Brakemen, Conductors) was clearly a MALE thing. Little boys were given LIONEL TRAINS and expected to grow up to be Locomotive Engineers (and G.I.s and truck drivers & fishing boat captains, etc). Little girls were given DOLLS and were expected to grow up to be Motthers and Housewives, etc. Sorry if I shock or offend the generation X-ers who grew up after these barriers were dissolved, but that's the way it was back in the days of Ward and June Cleaver. It's no small wonder that society responded to those "established" role guidelines that were in place for so long. From what I can see, the barriers in EMPLOYMENT have dissolved faster tahn those in railfandom, although both are dissolving. Psychological barriers are harder to dissolve. I've still heard of MALES being ridiculed for having careers as Nurses, and I remember 30 years ago, a male railfan friend of mine was embarrased to find work as a telephone switchboard operator. Finally, let me say this: Walk into a social event, with a mixed gender attendence. Now, start spouting off about a railroad subject. You'll probably be told QUITE QUICKLY, how much of a GIRL THING that trains are NOT ! Reply Edit CShaveRR Member sinceJune 2001 From: Lombard (west of Chicago), Illinois 13,681 posts Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, March 27, 2005 12:05 PM I can address both parts of ths question. We had the first female qualify on my job (car retarder operator) about three years ago. She was the only one until last year; now there are four. One of these has also qualified as a hump conductor (probably one of the most pressure-filled jobs out there), and another is in the process. For the most part, they do very well. To qualify as a CRO, you start out as a yard switchman (OK, switchperson). Again, the three newer ones are not only qualified switchmen, but also qualified remote control operators. As for female railfans, I'm personally acquainted with three of them who frequent the forum. The two who are married have spouses who are fairly knowledgeable about the subject (some things tend to rub off), but would not consider themselves to be railfans. I've been on the "family thing" route myself, but think I'd rather do my railfanning with an honest-to-goodness railfan (of either gender) who's willing to either teach me something or learn something from me. Now, mixing the two: of the three Forum members I know, one's employed in the railroad industry; another hopes to be once she's done with college, and the third is the daughter of a railroader, and often wishes she could have worked for the railroad. Carl Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!) CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM) Reply adrianspeeder Member sinceMarch 2002 From: Harrisburg PA / Dover AFB DE 1,482 posts Posted by adrianspeeder on Sunday, March 27, 2005 1:50 PM Yeah, I need a date... Adrianspeeder USAF TSgt C-17 Aircraft Maintenance Flying Crew Chief & Flightline Avionics Craftsman Reply chad thomas Member sinceJanuary 2005 From: Ely, Nv. 6,312 posts Posted by chad thomas on Sunday, March 27, 2005 2:04 PM A railfan girlfriend. What an awsome concept !!!!! [:P] Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, March 27, 2005 2:19 PM You are super lucky I guess! [:D][:o)] Originally posted by chad thomas [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply chad thomas Member sinceJanuary 2005 From: Ely, Nv. 6,312 posts Posted by chad thomas on Sunday, March 27, 2005 2:21 PM Yea right, I wish !!! Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, March 27, 2005 2:24 PM Well in all my rail fan hours I have never yet seen a female engineer. That would be either BNSF or UPRR. The only woman rail fans I ran into were there by default because there hubbies are railfans. Your info though is top notch at least in my book. [:o)][:I] Originally posted by CShaveRR [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, March 27, 2005 2:27 PM Well MHO say your are. In fact the Nebraska escapade I will be going on she opted to no go. So it is only little old me going to be enjoying whatever Neb has to offer. . [:I][:o)] Originally posted by chad thomas Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Mookie Member sinceJune 2001 From: US 13,488 posts Posted by Mookie on Monday, March 28, 2005 7:25 AM Anyone who has read the forum for more than one day knows I am a big railfan. Converted the driver when I first met him - out in the country for a nice afternoon drive. Came upon some tracks - told the driver there had been a train through here recently. He said he was so impressed that I knew so much about railroading (I didn't) that I could tell something by looking at the rails! Then gave him the punch line - "it left it's tracks!" He still married me. And, yes, I have seen at least 3 engineers of the female persuation. Looked very business-like, too - but one of them still managed to wave! Moo She who has no signature! cinscocom-tmw Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Monday, March 28, 2005 7:46 AM Lucky for you & your hubby! [:p][:D] Originally posted by Mookie And, yes, I have seen at least 3 engineers of the female persuation. Looked very business-like, too - but one of them still managed to wave! Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply coalminer3 Member sinceJanuary 2001 From: WV 1,251 posts Posted by coalminer3 on Monday, March 28, 2005 3:26 PM I guess it's a family thing. Both sides of my family lived within sight (and sound) of the New Haven Shore Line just outside Providence. Everyone traveled by train back then - always enjoyed granny's stories and artifacts from trips on the SAL, ACL, and ATSF. We also had lots of friends who worked for the railroad so it was "always there." We headed up to Mass. right after the end of WWII so I got a chance to see a lot of activity , including steam, on the different roads in that area as my dad traveled all over the 6-state region. Later schooling came in town/cities along the B&M and later the L&N. Now I'm in the heart of WV which, f course, has a rich RR heritage. My wife's family lived right beside the Erie near Buffalo. Family album has shots of Erie F units running through their back yard. Then they moved to a place where the BR&P (B&O) ran right by then end of the road to their farm. She got involved with my railroad interest through riding psgr. trains with me and visinting different rr sites and meeting the people. Then, she got bit with the "research" bug which afflicts everyone involved with railroading - her interest in this case is buildings, equipment, etc. The little people, especially my daughter (who wants to be a miner or heavy equipment when she grows up), shares our interest as well. BTW, there are numbers of women in minign today was well as working on the railroad. work safe Reply Sterling1 Member sinceFebruary 2002 From: Traveling in Middle Earth 795 posts Posted by Sterling1 on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 8:32 PM Has anyone seen the articles about Linda Nielmann as a railroader for twenty years? Probably breaking sex and racial barriers in the railroading industry . . . Matt "There is nothing in life that compares with running a locomotive at 80-plus mph with the windows open, the traction motors screaming, the air horns fighting the rush of incoming air to make any sound at all, automobiles on adjacent highways trying and failing to catch up with you, and the unmistakable presence of raw power. You ride with fear in the pit of your stomach knowing you do not really have control of this beast." - D.C. Battle [Trains 10/2002 issue, p74.] Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 6:12 AM No I have not [:p] Originally posted by Sterling1 [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Sterling1 Member sinceFebruary 2002 From: Traveling in Middle Earth 795 posts Posted by Sterling1 on Thursday, April 7, 2005 11:17 PM Anyone else know more about male or female railroaders? "There is nothing in life that compares with running a locomotive at 80-plus mph with the windows open, the traction motors screaming, the air horns fighting the rush of incoming air to make any sound at all, automobiles on adjacent highways trying and failing to catch up with you, and the unmistakable presence of raw power. You ride with fear in the pit of your stomach knowing you do not really have control of this beast." - D.C. Battle [Trains 10/2002 issue, p74.] Reply locomutt Member sinceSeptember 2003 From: Louisville,Ky. 5,077 posts Posted by locomutt on Friday, April 8, 2005 8:07 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by adrianspeeder Yeah, I need a date... Adrianspeeder How 'bout the "Mopar Gal"?, Or was it the "Hemi Gal?[}:)] Being Crazy,keeps you from going "INSANE" !! "The light at the end of the tunnel,has been turned off due to budget cuts" NOT AFRAID A Vet., and PROUD OF IT!! Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. 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Originally posted by CopCarSS Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Saturday, March 26, 2005 8:13 AM Well great for those women who work with you. However, my opinion is the reason you see woman on excursion trains is beacuse it is a what I will call a "family thing" . As for train shows which I also attend & at least in my part of the USA the only reason a woman is there is because her & her hubby are going somewhere after the show. Just as a analogy I once asked a waitress in her opinion who drank more de-cafe man or woman. The waitress said by far woman by 9 to 1 over man. That is just about the % I of man to woman I see at the train shows I attend. [:o)][:I] Originally posted by Dale Trongale For Sterling1 (and anyone else interested) Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 26, 2005 5:24 PM There is a good percentage of females on the rr in all crafts but hardly any of them I would believe have very little interest in trains and are not railfans. Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 26, 2005 5:48 PM There some things that men like more than women and that women like more than men. But to try to put into words what I feel, as a woman, what I feel inside upon hearing a train whistle or the rumble of its locomotive coming up a steep grade, well, there are no words. How many of you men developed your first interest in trains when your mom helped you count train cars while stopped at a crossing? Or how many of you were filled with stories of far away places that the trains might be going? Was your Mom as unknowning railfan? Railfans, rail buffs, rail workers, rail historians, we all love trains. Are there any real statistics out there as to the number of female workers on RR's and their particular crafts? Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 26, 2005 9:19 PM I've had a number of girlfriends over the years, as well as an ex-wife (thank God for the ex part...), and not any of them cared for trains-or The Three Stooges. The only female I've ever know that had any kind of interest in trains is my 70 year old mom. If she even suspects that I'm going train chasing, she grabs her purse and says I'm going too!. She even carries a camera around with her just in case she's out and about and sees a good photo opportunity. And what a collection of pictures she's got... Reply Edit JoeKoh Member sinceApril 2003 From: Defiance Ohio 13,286 posts Posted by JoeKoh on Saturday, March 26, 2005 10:08 PM Day I proposed to future wife I got her with a csx dash 8 coming by here in town.Just last week she was trying her hand at pictures from the van while pacing an ns train on the way home.shes getting good stay safe Joe Deshler Ohio-crossroads of the B&O Matt eats your fries.YUM! Clinton st viaduct undefeated against too tall trucks!!!(voted to be called the "Clinton St. can opener"). Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 26, 2005 10:11 PM My late great aunt, bless her heart she was a wonderful aunt, lived across from the Santa Fe trks in Wichita,KS for 24 yrs (1948-1972) and never took a single picture of any ATSF train passing in front of her house. If she would have done some type of yr by yr photo album, there would have been enough to fill up a issue for a Morning Sun book. Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 27, 2005 4:09 AM My wife has become a railfan since we first started dating. I asked her why one day, and she loyally said "because it's special to you, and it's something I never noticed before." She has also become a rabid hockey fan... and before we get into the beating of chest male thingie about hockey, let me just add that the vast majority of the booster organization is made up of.... women. Erik Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 27, 2005 9:38 AM Think about it for a minute: For the first 150 years of railroading, the expected roles in society were fairly clearly defined. Employment operating trains (i.e. Engineers, Brakemen, Conductors) was clearly a MALE thing. Little boys were given LIONEL TRAINS and expected to grow up to be Locomotive Engineers (and G.I.s and truck drivers & fishing boat captains, etc). Little girls were given DOLLS and were expected to grow up to be Motthers and Housewives, etc. Sorry if I shock or offend the generation X-ers who grew up after these barriers were dissolved, but that's the way it was back in the days of Ward and June Cleaver. It's no small wonder that society responded to those "established" role guidelines that were in place for so long. From what I can see, the barriers in EMPLOYMENT have dissolved faster tahn those in railfandom, although both are dissolving. Psychological barriers are harder to dissolve. I've still heard of MALES being ridiculed for having careers as Nurses, and I remember 30 years ago, a male railfan friend of mine was embarrased to find work as a telephone switchboard operator. Finally, let me say this: Walk into a social event, with a mixed gender attendence. Now, start spouting off about a railroad subject. You'll probably be told QUITE QUICKLY, how much of a GIRL THING that trains are NOT ! Reply Edit CShaveRR Member sinceJune 2001 From: Lombard (west of Chicago), Illinois 13,681 posts Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, March 27, 2005 12:05 PM I can address both parts of ths question. We had the first female qualify on my job (car retarder operator) about three years ago. She was the only one until last year; now there are four. One of these has also qualified as a hump conductor (probably one of the most pressure-filled jobs out there), and another is in the process. For the most part, they do very well. To qualify as a CRO, you start out as a yard switchman (OK, switchperson). Again, the three newer ones are not only qualified switchmen, but also qualified remote control operators. As for female railfans, I'm personally acquainted with three of them who frequent the forum. The two who are married have spouses who are fairly knowledgeable about the subject (some things tend to rub off), but would not consider themselves to be railfans. I've been on the "family thing" route myself, but think I'd rather do my railfanning with an honest-to-goodness railfan (of either gender) who's willing to either teach me something or learn something from me. Now, mixing the two: of the three Forum members I know, one's employed in the railroad industry; another hopes to be once she's done with college, and the third is the daughter of a railroader, and often wishes she could have worked for the railroad. Carl Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!) CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM) Reply adrianspeeder Member sinceMarch 2002 From: Harrisburg PA / Dover AFB DE 1,482 posts Posted by adrianspeeder on Sunday, March 27, 2005 1:50 PM Yeah, I need a date... Adrianspeeder USAF TSgt C-17 Aircraft Maintenance Flying Crew Chief & Flightline Avionics Craftsman Reply chad thomas Member sinceJanuary 2005 From: Ely, Nv. 6,312 posts Posted by chad thomas on Sunday, March 27, 2005 2:04 PM A railfan girlfriend. What an awsome concept !!!!! [:P] Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, March 27, 2005 2:19 PM You are super lucky I guess! [:D][:o)] Originally posted by chad thomas [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply chad thomas Member sinceJanuary 2005 From: Ely, Nv. 6,312 posts Posted by chad thomas on Sunday, March 27, 2005 2:21 PM Yea right, I wish !!! Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, March 27, 2005 2:24 PM Well in all my rail fan hours I have never yet seen a female engineer. That would be either BNSF or UPRR. The only woman rail fans I ran into were there by default because there hubbies are railfans. Your info though is top notch at least in my book. [:o)][:I] Originally posted by CShaveRR [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, March 27, 2005 2:27 PM Well MHO say your are. In fact the Nebraska escapade I will be going on she opted to no go. So it is only little old me going to be enjoying whatever Neb has to offer. . [:I][:o)] Originally posted by chad thomas Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Mookie Member sinceJune 2001 From: US 13,488 posts Posted by Mookie on Monday, March 28, 2005 7:25 AM Anyone who has read the forum for more than one day knows I am a big railfan. Converted the driver when I first met him - out in the country for a nice afternoon drive. Came upon some tracks - told the driver there had been a train through here recently. He said he was so impressed that I knew so much about railroading (I didn't) that I could tell something by looking at the rails! Then gave him the punch line - "it left it's tracks!" He still married me. And, yes, I have seen at least 3 engineers of the female persuation. Looked very business-like, too - but one of them still managed to wave! Moo She who has no signature! cinscocom-tmw Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Monday, March 28, 2005 7:46 AM Lucky for you & your hubby! [:p][:D] Originally posted by Mookie And, yes, I have seen at least 3 engineers of the female persuation. Looked very business-like, too - but one of them still managed to wave! Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply coalminer3 Member sinceJanuary 2001 From: WV 1,251 posts Posted by coalminer3 on Monday, March 28, 2005 3:26 PM I guess it's a family thing. Both sides of my family lived within sight (and sound) of the New Haven Shore Line just outside Providence. Everyone traveled by train back then - always enjoyed granny's stories and artifacts from trips on the SAL, ACL, and ATSF. We also had lots of friends who worked for the railroad so it was "always there." We headed up to Mass. right after the end of WWII so I got a chance to see a lot of activity , including steam, on the different roads in that area as my dad traveled all over the 6-state region. Later schooling came in town/cities along the B&M and later the L&N. Now I'm in the heart of WV which, f course, has a rich RR heritage. My wife's family lived right beside the Erie near Buffalo. Family album has shots of Erie F units running through their back yard. Then they moved to a place where the BR&P (B&O) ran right by then end of the road to their farm. She got involved with my railroad interest through riding psgr. trains with me and visinting different rr sites and meeting the people. Then, she got bit with the "research" bug which afflicts everyone involved with railroading - her interest in this case is buildings, equipment, etc. The little people, especially my daughter (who wants to be a miner or heavy equipment when she grows up), shares our interest as well. BTW, there are numbers of women in minign today was well as working on the railroad. work safe Reply Sterling1 Member sinceFebruary 2002 From: Traveling in Middle Earth 795 posts Posted by Sterling1 on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 8:32 PM Has anyone seen the articles about Linda Nielmann as a railroader for twenty years? Probably breaking sex and racial barriers in the railroading industry . . . Matt "There is nothing in life that compares with running a locomotive at 80-plus mph with the windows open, the traction motors screaming, the air horns fighting the rush of incoming air to make any sound at all, automobiles on adjacent highways trying and failing to catch up with you, and the unmistakable presence of raw power. You ride with fear in the pit of your stomach knowing you do not really have control of this beast." - D.C. Battle [Trains 10/2002 issue, p74.] Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 6:12 AM No I have not [:p] Originally posted by Sterling1 [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Sterling1 Member sinceFebruary 2002 From: Traveling in Middle Earth 795 posts Posted by Sterling1 on Thursday, April 7, 2005 11:17 PM Anyone else know more about male or female railroaders? "There is nothing in life that compares with running a locomotive at 80-plus mph with the windows open, the traction motors screaming, the air horns fighting the rush of incoming air to make any sound at all, automobiles on adjacent highways trying and failing to catch up with you, and the unmistakable presence of raw power. You ride with fear in the pit of your stomach knowing you do not really have control of this beast." - D.C. Battle [Trains 10/2002 issue, p74.] Reply locomutt Member sinceSeptember 2003 From: Louisville,Ky. 5,077 posts Posted by locomutt on Friday, April 8, 2005 8:07 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by adrianspeeder Yeah, I need a date... Adrianspeeder How 'bout the "Mopar Gal"?, Or was it the "Hemi Gal?[}:)] Being Crazy,keeps you from going "INSANE" !! "The light at the end of the tunnel,has been turned off due to budget cuts" NOT AFRAID A Vet., and PROUD OF IT!! Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. 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Originally posted by Dale Trongale For Sterling1 (and anyone else interested) Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 26, 2005 5:24 PM There is a good percentage of females on the rr in all crafts but hardly any of them I would believe have very little interest in trains and are not railfans. Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 26, 2005 5:48 PM There some things that men like more than women and that women like more than men. But to try to put into words what I feel, as a woman, what I feel inside upon hearing a train whistle or the rumble of its locomotive coming up a steep grade, well, there are no words. How many of you men developed your first interest in trains when your mom helped you count train cars while stopped at a crossing? Or how many of you were filled with stories of far away places that the trains might be going? Was your Mom as unknowning railfan? Railfans, rail buffs, rail workers, rail historians, we all love trains. Are there any real statistics out there as to the number of female workers on RR's and their particular crafts? Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 26, 2005 9:19 PM I've had a number of girlfriends over the years, as well as an ex-wife (thank God for the ex part...), and not any of them cared for trains-or The Three Stooges. The only female I've ever know that had any kind of interest in trains is my 70 year old mom. If she even suspects that I'm going train chasing, she grabs her purse and says I'm going too!. She even carries a camera around with her just in case she's out and about and sees a good photo opportunity. And what a collection of pictures she's got... Reply Edit JoeKoh Member sinceApril 2003 From: Defiance Ohio 13,286 posts Posted by JoeKoh on Saturday, March 26, 2005 10:08 PM Day I proposed to future wife I got her with a csx dash 8 coming by here in town.Just last week she was trying her hand at pictures from the van while pacing an ns train on the way home.shes getting good stay safe Joe Deshler Ohio-crossroads of the B&O Matt eats your fries.YUM! Clinton st viaduct undefeated against too tall trucks!!!(voted to be called the "Clinton St. can opener"). Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 26, 2005 10:11 PM My late great aunt, bless her heart she was a wonderful aunt, lived across from the Santa Fe trks in Wichita,KS for 24 yrs (1948-1972) and never took a single picture of any ATSF train passing in front of her house. If she would have done some type of yr by yr photo album, there would have been enough to fill up a issue for a Morning Sun book. Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 27, 2005 4:09 AM My wife has become a railfan since we first started dating. I asked her why one day, and she loyally said "because it's special to you, and it's something I never noticed before." She has also become a rabid hockey fan... and before we get into the beating of chest male thingie about hockey, let me just add that the vast majority of the booster organization is made up of.... women. Erik Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 27, 2005 9:38 AM Think about it for a minute: For the first 150 years of railroading, the expected roles in society were fairly clearly defined. Employment operating trains (i.e. Engineers, Brakemen, Conductors) was clearly a MALE thing. Little boys were given LIONEL TRAINS and expected to grow up to be Locomotive Engineers (and G.I.s and truck drivers & fishing boat captains, etc). Little girls were given DOLLS and were expected to grow up to be Motthers and Housewives, etc. Sorry if I shock or offend the generation X-ers who grew up after these barriers were dissolved, but that's the way it was back in the days of Ward and June Cleaver. It's no small wonder that society responded to those "established" role guidelines that were in place for so long. From what I can see, the barriers in EMPLOYMENT have dissolved faster tahn those in railfandom, although both are dissolving. Psychological barriers are harder to dissolve. I've still heard of MALES being ridiculed for having careers as Nurses, and I remember 30 years ago, a male railfan friend of mine was embarrased to find work as a telephone switchboard operator. Finally, let me say this: Walk into a social event, with a mixed gender attendence. Now, start spouting off about a railroad subject. You'll probably be told QUITE QUICKLY, how much of a GIRL THING that trains are NOT ! Reply Edit CShaveRR Member sinceJune 2001 From: Lombard (west of Chicago), Illinois 13,681 posts Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, March 27, 2005 12:05 PM I can address both parts of ths question. We had the first female qualify on my job (car retarder operator) about three years ago. She was the only one until last year; now there are four. One of these has also qualified as a hump conductor (probably one of the most pressure-filled jobs out there), and another is in the process. For the most part, they do very well. To qualify as a CRO, you start out as a yard switchman (OK, switchperson). Again, the three newer ones are not only qualified switchmen, but also qualified remote control operators. As for female railfans, I'm personally acquainted with three of them who frequent the forum. The two who are married have spouses who are fairly knowledgeable about the subject (some things tend to rub off), but would not consider themselves to be railfans. I've been on the "family thing" route myself, but think I'd rather do my railfanning with an honest-to-goodness railfan (of either gender) who's willing to either teach me something or learn something from me. Now, mixing the two: of the three Forum members I know, one's employed in the railroad industry; another hopes to be once she's done with college, and the third is the daughter of a railroader, and often wishes she could have worked for the railroad. Carl Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!) CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM) Reply adrianspeeder Member sinceMarch 2002 From: Harrisburg PA / Dover AFB DE 1,482 posts Posted by adrianspeeder on Sunday, March 27, 2005 1:50 PM Yeah, I need a date... Adrianspeeder USAF TSgt C-17 Aircraft Maintenance Flying Crew Chief & Flightline Avionics Craftsman Reply chad thomas Member sinceJanuary 2005 From: Ely, Nv. 6,312 posts Posted by chad thomas on Sunday, March 27, 2005 2:04 PM A railfan girlfriend. What an awsome concept !!!!! [:P] Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, March 27, 2005 2:19 PM You are super lucky I guess! [:D][:o)] Originally posted by chad thomas [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply chad thomas Member sinceJanuary 2005 From: Ely, Nv. 6,312 posts Posted by chad thomas on Sunday, March 27, 2005 2:21 PM Yea right, I wish !!! Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, March 27, 2005 2:24 PM Well in all my rail fan hours I have never yet seen a female engineer. That would be either BNSF or UPRR. The only woman rail fans I ran into were there by default because there hubbies are railfans. Your info though is top notch at least in my book. [:o)][:I] Originally posted by CShaveRR [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, March 27, 2005 2:27 PM Well MHO say your are. In fact the Nebraska escapade I will be going on she opted to no go. So it is only little old me going to be enjoying whatever Neb has to offer. . [:I][:o)] Originally posted by chad thomas Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Mookie Member sinceJune 2001 From: US 13,488 posts Posted by Mookie on Monday, March 28, 2005 7:25 AM Anyone who has read the forum for more than one day knows I am a big railfan. Converted the driver when I first met him - out in the country for a nice afternoon drive. Came upon some tracks - told the driver there had been a train through here recently. He said he was so impressed that I knew so much about railroading (I didn't) that I could tell something by looking at the rails! Then gave him the punch line - "it left it's tracks!" He still married me. And, yes, I have seen at least 3 engineers of the female persuation. Looked very business-like, too - but one of them still managed to wave! Moo She who has no signature! cinscocom-tmw Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Monday, March 28, 2005 7:46 AM Lucky for you & your hubby! [:p][:D] Originally posted by Mookie And, yes, I have seen at least 3 engineers of the female persuation. Looked very business-like, too - but one of them still managed to wave! Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply coalminer3 Member sinceJanuary 2001 From: WV 1,251 posts Posted by coalminer3 on Monday, March 28, 2005 3:26 PM I guess it's a family thing. Both sides of my family lived within sight (and sound) of the New Haven Shore Line just outside Providence. Everyone traveled by train back then - always enjoyed granny's stories and artifacts from trips on the SAL, ACL, and ATSF. We also had lots of friends who worked for the railroad so it was "always there." We headed up to Mass. right after the end of WWII so I got a chance to see a lot of activity , including steam, on the different roads in that area as my dad traveled all over the 6-state region. Later schooling came in town/cities along the B&M and later the L&N. Now I'm in the heart of WV which, f course, has a rich RR heritage. My wife's family lived right beside the Erie near Buffalo. Family album has shots of Erie F units running through their back yard. Then they moved to a place where the BR&P (B&O) ran right by then end of the road to their farm. She got involved with my railroad interest through riding psgr. trains with me and visinting different rr sites and meeting the people. Then, she got bit with the "research" bug which afflicts everyone involved with railroading - her interest in this case is buildings, equipment, etc. The little people, especially my daughter (who wants to be a miner or heavy equipment when she grows up), shares our interest as well. BTW, there are numbers of women in minign today was well as working on the railroad. work safe Reply Sterling1 Member sinceFebruary 2002 From: Traveling in Middle Earth 795 posts Posted by Sterling1 on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 8:32 PM Has anyone seen the articles about Linda Nielmann as a railroader for twenty years? Probably breaking sex and racial barriers in the railroading industry . . . Matt "There is nothing in life that compares with running a locomotive at 80-plus mph with the windows open, the traction motors screaming, the air horns fighting the rush of incoming air to make any sound at all, automobiles on adjacent highways trying and failing to catch up with you, and the unmistakable presence of raw power. You ride with fear in the pit of your stomach knowing you do not really have control of this beast." - D.C. Battle [Trains 10/2002 issue, p74.] Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 6:12 AM No I have not [:p] Originally posted by Sterling1 [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Sterling1 Member sinceFebruary 2002 From: Traveling in Middle Earth 795 posts Posted by Sterling1 on Thursday, April 7, 2005 11:17 PM Anyone else know more about male or female railroaders? "There is nothing in life that compares with running a locomotive at 80-plus mph with the windows open, the traction motors screaming, the air horns fighting the rush of incoming air to make any sound at all, automobiles on adjacent highways trying and failing to catch up with you, and the unmistakable presence of raw power. You ride with fear in the pit of your stomach knowing you do not really have control of this beast." - D.C. Battle [Trains 10/2002 issue, p74.] Reply locomutt Member sinceSeptember 2003 From: Louisville,Ky. 5,077 posts Posted by locomutt on Friday, April 8, 2005 8:07 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by adrianspeeder Yeah, I need a date... Adrianspeeder How 'bout the "Mopar Gal"?, Or was it the "Hemi Gal?[}:)] Being Crazy,keeps you from going "INSANE" !! "The light at the end of the tunnel,has been turned off due to budget cuts" NOT AFRAID A Vet., and PROUD OF IT!! Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. 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Originally posted by chad thomas [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply chad thomas Member sinceJanuary 2005 From: Ely, Nv. 6,312 posts Posted by chad thomas on Sunday, March 27, 2005 2:21 PM Yea right, I wish !!! Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, March 27, 2005 2:24 PM Well in all my rail fan hours I have never yet seen a female engineer. That would be either BNSF or UPRR. The only woman rail fans I ran into were there by default because there hubbies are railfans. Your info though is top notch at least in my book. [:o)][:I] Originally posted by CShaveRR [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, March 27, 2005 2:27 PM Well MHO say your are. In fact the Nebraska escapade I will be going on she opted to no go. So it is only little old me going to be enjoying whatever Neb has to offer. . [:I][:o)] Originally posted by chad thomas Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Mookie Member sinceJune 2001 From: US 13,488 posts Posted by Mookie on Monday, March 28, 2005 7:25 AM Anyone who has read the forum for more than one day knows I am a big railfan. Converted the driver when I first met him - out in the country for a nice afternoon drive. Came upon some tracks - told the driver there had been a train through here recently. He said he was so impressed that I knew so much about railroading (I didn't) that I could tell something by looking at the rails! Then gave him the punch line - "it left it's tracks!" He still married me. And, yes, I have seen at least 3 engineers of the female persuation. Looked very business-like, too - but one of them still managed to wave! Moo She who has no signature! cinscocom-tmw Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Monday, March 28, 2005 7:46 AM Lucky for you & your hubby! [:p][:D] Originally posted by Mookie And, yes, I have seen at least 3 engineers of the female persuation. Looked very business-like, too - but one of them still managed to wave! Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply coalminer3 Member sinceJanuary 2001 From: WV 1,251 posts Posted by coalminer3 on Monday, March 28, 2005 3:26 PM I guess it's a family thing. Both sides of my family lived within sight (and sound) of the New Haven Shore Line just outside Providence. Everyone traveled by train back then - always enjoyed granny's stories and artifacts from trips on the SAL, ACL, and ATSF. We also had lots of friends who worked for the railroad so it was "always there." We headed up to Mass. right after the end of WWII so I got a chance to see a lot of activity , including steam, on the different roads in that area as my dad traveled all over the 6-state region. Later schooling came in town/cities along the B&M and later the L&N. Now I'm in the heart of WV which, f course, has a rich RR heritage. My wife's family lived right beside the Erie near Buffalo. Family album has shots of Erie F units running through their back yard. Then they moved to a place where the BR&P (B&O) ran right by then end of the road to their farm. She got involved with my railroad interest through riding psgr. trains with me and visinting different rr sites and meeting the people. Then, she got bit with the "research" bug which afflicts everyone involved with railroading - her interest in this case is buildings, equipment, etc. The little people, especially my daughter (who wants to be a miner or heavy equipment when she grows up), shares our interest as well. BTW, there are numbers of women in minign today was well as working on the railroad. work safe Reply Sterling1 Member sinceFebruary 2002 From: Traveling in Middle Earth 795 posts Posted by Sterling1 on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 8:32 PM Has anyone seen the articles about Linda Nielmann as a railroader for twenty years? Probably breaking sex and racial barriers in the railroading industry . . . Matt "There is nothing in life that compares with running a locomotive at 80-plus mph with the windows open, the traction motors screaming, the air horns fighting the rush of incoming air to make any sound at all, automobiles on adjacent highways trying and failing to catch up with you, and the unmistakable presence of raw power. You ride with fear in the pit of your stomach knowing you do not really have control of this beast." - D.C. Battle [Trains 10/2002 issue, p74.] Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 6:12 AM No I have not [:p] Originally posted by Sterling1 [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Sterling1 Member sinceFebruary 2002 From: Traveling in Middle Earth 795 posts Posted by Sterling1 on Thursday, April 7, 2005 11:17 PM Anyone else know more about male or female railroaders? "There is nothing in life that compares with running a locomotive at 80-plus mph with the windows open, the traction motors screaming, the air horns fighting the rush of incoming air to make any sound at all, automobiles on adjacent highways trying and failing to catch up with you, and the unmistakable presence of raw power. You ride with fear in the pit of your stomach knowing you do not really have control of this beast." - D.C. Battle [Trains 10/2002 issue, p74.] Reply locomutt Member sinceSeptember 2003 From: Louisville,Ky. 5,077 posts Posted by locomutt on Friday, April 8, 2005 8:07 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by adrianspeeder Yeah, I need a date... Adrianspeeder How 'bout the "Mopar Gal"?, Or was it the "Hemi Gal?[}:)] Being Crazy,keeps you from going "INSANE" !! "The light at the end of the tunnel,has been turned off due to budget cuts" NOT AFRAID A Vet., and PROUD OF IT!! Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
Originally posted by CShaveRR [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, March 27, 2005 2:27 PM Well MHO say your are. In fact the Nebraska escapade I will be going on she opted to no go. So it is only little old me going to be enjoying whatever Neb has to offer. . [:I][:o)] Originally posted by chad thomas Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Mookie Member sinceJune 2001 From: US 13,488 posts Posted by Mookie on Monday, March 28, 2005 7:25 AM Anyone who has read the forum for more than one day knows I am a big railfan. Converted the driver when I first met him - out in the country for a nice afternoon drive. Came upon some tracks - told the driver there had been a train through here recently. He said he was so impressed that I knew so much about railroading (I didn't) that I could tell something by looking at the rails! Then gave him the punch line - "it left it's tracks!" He still married me. And, yes, I have seen at least 3 engineers of the female persuation. Looked very business-like, too - but one of them still managed to wave! Moo She who has no signature! cinscocom-tmw Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Monday, March 28, 2005 7:46 AM Lucky for you & your hubby! [:p][:D] Originally posted by Mookie And, yes, I have seen at least 3 engineers of the female persuation. Looked very business-like, too - but one of them still managed to wave! Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply coalminer3 Member sinceJanuary 2001 From: WV 1,251 posts Posted by coalminer3 on Monday, March 28, 2005 3:26 PM I guess it's a family thing. Both sides of my family lived within sight (and sound) of the New Haven Shore Line just outside Providence. Everyone traveled by train back then - always enjoyed granny's stories and artifacts from trips on the SAL, ACL, and ATSF. We also had lots of friends who worked for the railroad so it was "always there." We headed up to Mass. right after the end of WWII so I got a chance to see a lot of activity , including steam, on the different roads in that area as my dad traveled all over the 6-state region. Later schooling came in town/cities along the B&M and later the L&N. Now I'm in the heart of WV which, f course, has a rich RR heritage. My wife's family lived right beside the Erie near Buffalo. Family album has shots of Erie F units running through their back yard. Then they moved to a place where the BR&P (B&O) ran right by then end of the road to their farm. She got involved with my railroad interest through riding psgr. trains with me and visinting different rr sites and meeting the people. Then, she got bit with the "research" bug which afflicts everyone involved with railroading - her interest in this case is buildings, equipment, etc. The little people, especially my daughter (who wants to be a miner or heavy equipment when she grows up), shares our interest as well. BTW, there are numbers of women in minign today was well as working on the railroad. work safe Reply Sterling1 Member sinceFebruary 2002 From: Traveling in Middle Earth 795 posts Posted by Sterling1 on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 8:32 PM Has anyone seen the articles about Linda Nielmann as a railroader for twenty years? Probably breaking sex and racial barriers in the railroading industry . . . Matt "There is nothing in life that compares with running a locomotive at 80-plus mph with the windows open, the traction motors screaming, the air horns fighting the rush of incoming air to make any sound at all, automobiles on adjacent highways trying and failing to catch up with you, and the unmistakable presence of raw power. You ride with fear in the pit of your stomach knowing you do not really have control of this beast." - D.C. Battle [Trains 10/2002 issue, p74.] Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 6:12 AM No I have not [:p] Originally posted by Sterling1 [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Sterling1 Member sinceFebruary 2002 From: Traveling in Middle Earth 795 posts Posted by Sterling1 on Thursday, April 7, 2005 11:17 PM Anyone else know more about male or female railroaders? "There is nothing in life that compares with running a locomotive at 80-plus mph with the windows open, the traction motors screaming, the air horns fighting the rush of incoming air to make any sound at all, automobiles on adjacent highways trying and failing to catch up with you, and the unmistakable presence of raw power. You ride with fear in the pit of your stomach knowing you do not really have control of this beast." - D.C. Battle [Trains 10/2002 issue, p74.] Reply locomutt Member sinceSeptember 2003 From: Louisville,Ky. 5,077 posts Posted by locomutt on Friday, April 8, 2005 8:07 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by adrianspeeder Yeah, I need a date... Adrianspeeder How 'bout the "Mopar Gal"?, Or was it the "Hemi Gal?[}:)] Being Crazy,keeps you from going "INSANE" !! "The light at the end of the tunnel,has been turned off due to budget cuts" NOT AFRAID A Vet., and PROUD OF IT!! Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. 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Originally posted by chad thomas Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Mookie Member sinceJune 2001 From: US 13,488 posts Posted by Mookie on Monday, March 28, 2005 7:25 AM Anyone who has read the forum for more than one day knows I am a big railfan. Converted the driver when I first met him - out in the country for a nice afternoon drive. Came upon some tracks - told the driver there had been a train through here recently. He said he was so impressed that I knew so much about railroading (I didn't) that I could tell something by looking at the rails! Then gave him the punch line - "it left it's tracks!" He still married me. And, yes, I have seen at least 3 engineers of the female persuation. Looked very business-like, too - but one of them still managed to wave! Moo She who has no signature! cinscocom-tmw Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Monday, March 28, 2005 7:46 AM Lucky for you & your hubby! [:p][:D] Originally posted by Mookie And, yes, I have seen at least 3 engineers of the female persuation. Looked very business-like, too - but one of them still managed to wave! Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply coalminer3 Member sinceJanuary 2001 From: WV 1,251 posts Posted by coalminer3 on Monday, March 28, 2005 3:26 PM I guess it's a family thing. Both sides of my family lived within sight (and sound) of the New Haven Shore Line just outside Providence. Everyone traveled by train back then - always enjoyed granny's stories and artifacts from trips on the SAL, ACL, and ATSF. We also had lots of friends who worked for the railroad so it was "always there." We headed up to Mass. right after the end of WWII so I got a chance to see a lot of activity , including steam, on the different roads in that area as my dad traveled all over the 6-state region. Later schooling came in town/cities along the B&M and later the L&N. Now I'm in the heart of WV which, f course, has a rich RR heritage. My wife's family lived right beside the Erie near Buffalo. Family album has shots of Erie F units running through their back yard. Then they moved to a place where the BR&P (B&O) ran right by then end of the road to their farm. She got involved with my railroad interest through riding psgr. trains with me and visinting different rr sites and meeting the people. Then, she got bit with the "research" bug which afflicts everyone involved with railroading - her interest in this case is buildings, equipment, etc. The little people, especially my daughter (who wants to be a miner or heavy equipment when she grows up), shares our interest as well. BTW, there are numbers of women in minign today was well as working on the railroad. work safe Reply Sterling1 Member sinceFebruary 2002 From: Traveling in Middle Earth 795 posts Posted by Sterling1 on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 8:32 PM Has anyone seen the articles about Linda Nielmann as a railroader for twenty years? Probably breaking sex and racial barriers in the railroading industry . . . Matt "There is nothing in life that compares with running a locomotive at 80-plus mph with the windows open, the traction motors screaming, the air horns fighting the rush of incoming air to make any sound at all, automobiles on adjacent highways trying and failing to catch up with you, and the unmistakable presence of raw power. You ride with fear in the pit of your stomach knowing you do not really have control of this beast." - D.C. Battle [Trains 10/2002 issue, p74.] Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 6:12 AM No I have not [:p] Originally posted by Sterling1 [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Sterling1 Member sinceFebruary 2002 From: Traveling in Middle Earth 795 posts Posted by Sterling1 on Thursday, April 7, 2005 11:17 PM Anyone else know more about male or female railroaders? "There is nothing in life that compares with running a locomotive at 80-plus mph with the windows open, the traction motors screaming, the air horns fighting the rush of incoming air to make any sound at all, automobiles on adjacent highways trying and failing to catch up with you, and the unmistakable presence of raw power. You ride with fear in the pit of your stomach knowing you do not really have control of this beast." - D.C. Battle [Trains 10/2002 issue, p74.] Reply locomutt Member sinceSeptember 2003 From: Louisville,Ky. 5,077 posts Posted by locomutt on Friday, April 8, 2005 8:07 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by adrianspeeder Yeah, I need a date... Adrianspeeder How 'bout the "Mopar Gal"?, Or was it the "Hemi Gal?[}:)] Being Crazy,keeps you from going "INSANE" !! "The light at the end of the tunnel,has been turned off due to budget cuts" NOT AFRAID A Vet., and PROUD OF IT!! Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
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Originally posted by Mookie And, yes, I have seen at least 3 engineers of the female persuation. Looked very business-like, too - but one of them still managed to wave! Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply coalminer3 Member sinceJanuary 2001 From: WV 1,251 posts Posted by coalminer3 on Monday, March 28, 2005 3:26 PM I guess it's a family thing. Both sides of my family lived within sight (and sound) of the New Haven Shore Line just outside Providence. Everyone traveled by train back then - always enjoyed granny's stories and artifacts from trips on the SAL, ACL, and ATSF. We also had lots of friends who worked for the railroad so it was "always there." We headed up to Mass. right after the end of WWII so I got a chance to see a lot of activity , including steam, on the different roads in that area as my dad traveled all over the 6-state region. Later schooling came in town/cities along the B&M and later the L&N. Now I'm in the heart of WV which, f course, has a rich RR heritage. My wife's family lived right beside the Erie near Buffalo. Family album has shots of Erie F units running through their back yard. Then they moved to a place where the BR&P (B&O) ran right by then end of the road to their farm. She got involved with my railroad interest through riding psgr. trains with me and visinting different rr sites and meeting the people. Then, she got bit with the "research" bug which afflicts everyone involved with railroading - her interest in this case is buildings, equipment, etc. The little people, especially my daughter (who wants to be a miner or heavy equipment when she grows up), shares our interest as well. BTW, there are numbers of women in minign today was well as working on the railroad. work safe Reply Sterling1 Member sinceFebruary 2002 From: Traveling in Middle Earth 795 posts Posted by Sterling1 on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 8:32 PM Has anyone seen the articles about Linda Nielmann as a railroader for twenty years? Probably breaking sex and racial barriers in the railroading industry . . . Matt "There is nothing in life that compares with running a locomotive at 80-plus mph with the windows open, the traction motors screaming, the air horns fighting the rush of incoming air to make any sound at all, automobiles on adjacent highways trying and failing to catch up with you, and the unmistakable presence of raw power. You ride with fear in the pit of your stomach knowing you do not really have control of this beast." - D.C. Battle [Trains 10/2002 issue, p74.] Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 6:12 AM No I have not [:p] Originally posted by Sterling1 [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Sterling1 Member sinceFebruary 2002 From: Traveling in Middle Earth 795 posts Posted by Sterling1 on Thursday, April 7, 2005 11:17 PM Anyone else know more about male or female railroaders? "There is nothing in life that compares with running a locomotive at 80-plus mph with the windows open, the traction motors screaming, the air horns fighting the rush of incoming air to make any sound at all, automobiles on adjacent highways trying and failing to catch up with you, and the unmistakable presence of raw power. You ride with fear in the pit of your stomach knowing you do not really have control of this beast." - D.C. Battle [Trains 10/2002 issue, p74.] Reply locomutt Member sinceSeptember 2003 From: Louisville,Ky. 5,077 posts Posted by locomutt on Friday, April 8, 2005 8:07 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by adrianspeeder Yeah, I need a date... Adrianspeeder How 'bout the "Mopar Gal"?, Or was it the "Hemi Gal?[}:)] Being Crazy,keeps you from going "INSANE" !! "The light at the end of the tunnel,has been turned off due to budget cuts" NOT AFRAID A Vet., and PROUD OF IT!! Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
Originally posted by Sterling1 [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Sterling1 Member sinceFebruary 2002 From: Traveling in Middle Earth 795 posts Posted by Sterling1 on Thursday, April 7, 2005 11:17 PM Anyone else know more about male or female railroaders? "There is nothing in life that compares with running a locomotive at 80-plus mph with the windows open, the traction motors screaming, the air horns fighting the rush of incoming air to make any sound at all, automobiles on adjacent highways trying and failing to catch up with you, and the unmistakable presence of raw power. You ride with fear in the pit of your stomach knowing you do not really have control of this beast." - D.C. Battle [Trains 10/2002 issue, p74.] Reply locomutt Member sinceSeptember 2003 From: Louisville,Ky. 5,077 posts Posted by locomutt on Friday, April 8, 2005 8:07 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by adrianspeeder Yeah, I need a date... Adrianspeeder How 'bout the "Mopar Gal"?, Or was it the "Hemi Gal?[}:)] Being Crazy,keeps you from going "INSANE" !! "The light at the end of the tunnel,has been turned off due to budget cuts" NOT AFRAID A Vet., and PROUD OF IT!! Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
QUOTE: Originally posted by adrianspeeder Yeah, I need a date... Adrianspeeder
Being Crazy,keeps you from going "INSANE" !! "The light at the end of the tunnel,has been turned off due to budget cuts" NOT AFRAID A Vet., and PROUD OF IT!!
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