Watched Video WITHOUT it's sound track.
Had Music on from another Channel.
For only two minutes or so.
Thank You. Sir!
Yes.
They note several times in the YouTube comments that it was on I-25 north of Pueblo, which confirms it isn't a 'lookalike'. You did well to spot that bridge as it's only in the first second or two of the video...
Thank You.
Per a participant on a morning amateur radio net, the bridge parts are installed and the road is opened again.
Larry Resident Microferroequinologist (at least at my house) Everyone goes home; Safety begins with you My Opinion. Standard Disclaimers Apply. No Expiration Date Come ride the rails with me! There's one thing about humility - the moment you think you've got it, you've lost it...
FYI / UPDATE: Bridge replacement starts 12/18 with overnite closure of I-25 and initial placement of thru-deck girder beams and repairs to highway guardrails, etc.
rdamon I was just at a conference in Denver where I was able to get a hotel with a view of the Joint Line. Plenty of coal traffic, it looks like they can keep things running using the tracks on the east side of I-25 in Pueblo.
I was just at a conference in Denver where I was able to get a hotel with a view of the Joint Line. Plenty of coal traffic, it looks like they can keep things running using the tracks on the east side of I-25 in Pueblo.
Understand the new skewed floor beams to go with the secondhand girders out of Texas are being fabricated.
It will be interesting to see how quickly they replace the bridge.
BaltACDThat was why I made the comment.
I know. Others may not have.
tree68 BaltACD Now all they need to do is find a location where the roadway is 'trestled' over the ground and have stored debris catch on fire and damage the roadway. Ask and you shall receive: https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending/massive-fire-closes-los-angeles-interstate-indefinitely/MM7TI54OANEEFCWSMDISE3RDPQ/
BaltACD Now all they need to do is find a location where the roadway is 'trestled' over the ground and have stored debris catch on fire and damage the roadway.
Ask and you shall receive:
https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending/massive-fire-closes-los-angeles-interstate-indefinitely/MM7TI54OANEEFCWSMDISE3RDPQ/
That was why I made the comment.
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
BaltACDNow all they need to do is find a location where the roadway is 'trestled' over the ground and have stored debris catch on fire and damage the roadway.
BaltACD blue streak 1 Now an oveersize load has closed another portion of I--25 southbound this time! Oversized load hits Hwy 50 bridge, I-25 closed southbound (msn.com) Now all they need to do is find a location where the roadway is 'trestled' over the ground and have stored debris catch on fire and damage the roadway.
blue streak 1 Now an oveersize load has closed another portion of I--25 southbound this time! Oversized load hits Hwy 50 bridge, I-25 closed southbound (msn.com)
Oversized load hits Hwy 50 bridge, I-25 closed southbound (msn.com)
Now all they need to do is find a location where the roadway is 'trestled' over the ground and have stored debris catch on fire and damage the roadway.
Don't give "they" a chance. There is such a place. (former MoP PS&R and Stockyards area below 1st Street interchange with I-25 aka "Illiff", north of Damon Runyan Field)
....But you won't see the polititians going after the brainless truckers...
blue streak 1Now an oveersize load has closed another portion of I--25 southbound this time! Oversized load hits Hwy 50 bridge, I-25 closed southbound (msn.com)
Now an oveersize load has closed another portion of I--25 southbound this time!
Drove right through the opening where the bridge should have been at 4pm today while headed for home. Very strange.
No sign of the replacement structure.
Clean-up has progressed about as far as it can go.
Santa Fe main o/s as far north as Buttes and surfacing gang equipment is parked on the main track about 1 mile above Bragdon cross-overs.
The derailment at SantaFe Junction in Kansas City on the bridge happend passing through the trailing point, but that was the lead locomotive.
Thinking a car may have already been on the ground and the switch provided a ramp.
diningcar I can't get the web site to load a second time; but the first time I did not see a mention of a broken rail. Did anyone see this?
I can't get the web site to load a second time; but the first time I did not see a mention of a broken rail. Did anyone see this?
Really poor choice of words. OTOH, NTSB is not solely focussed on a broken rail at this point. Everything is still in play. They just were sertting the table with this statement.
Prelim Report
The derailment occurred near a track switch east of a railroad bridge that crossed over Interstate 25. Derailed railcars struck the bridge, six dropping to the interstate below and one or more striking a northbound truck-tractor in combination with a utility trailer
https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/Pages/RRD24FR001.aspx
You mean nature doesn't wait for all the permits?
We had a sinkhole open up adjacent to a road late February - sinkhole was large enough to require closing the road for 4+ months. The frustrating part was that the city had a plan in place to fix the root cause of the sinkhole (rusted out corrugated steel drain pipe) a year before. Main hold up was getting all the permitting done (ACoE, EPA, Cal Coastal commission, etc), but the sinkhole and subsequent repair probably did a lot more damage than the original repair plan would have done.
rdamon If a truck hit a state owned bridge they would go after the trucking company. I would see no difference if a train hit a state owned bridge. Broken rail was probably in advance of the bridge. Now BNSF may want the bridge fixed faster than the speed of CO DOT.
If a truck hit a state owned bridge they would go after the trucking company.
I would see no difference if a train hit a state owned bridge.
Broken rail was probably in advance of the bridge.
Now BNSF may want the bridge fixed faster than the speed of CO DOT.
When Hurricane Katrina devastated CSX's NO&M and portions of the M&M subdivisions in September 2005, CSX brought ALL the resources available to restore the lines to operation - which was done on March 1, 2006. Less than six months after the catastrophe.
Comments in various newspapers through the region were stating that the various State road administrations were still trying to get their language together to put the damages to I-10 and US-90 which also run between New Orleans and Jacksonville when CSX was announcing the reopening of their damaged railroad..
adkrr64 When referring to bridge guardrails, I believe we are talking about these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guard_rail_%28rail_transport%29#/media/File:Shepherdstown_railroad_bridge_WV2.jpg At one time, some railroads also used collision posts (I don't think that is the correct term), which were steel/ concrete posts erected at the approach to a trestle to prevent a derailed train from striking the trestle structure, much like you see in parking lots to protect garage door entrances and other facilities from motor vehicles. Those have fallen out of favor. These were discussed in some detail in a recent book about a couple of bridge collapses on the O&W railroad in the 19th and 20th centuries, written by a structual engineer.
When referring to bridge guardrails, I believe we are talking about these:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guard_rail_%28rail_transport%29#/media/File:Shepherdstown_railroad_bridge_WV2.jpg
At one time, some railroads also used collision posts (I don't think that is the correct term), which were steel/ concrete posts erected at the approach to a trestle to prevent a derailed train from striking the trestle structure, much like you see in parking lots to protect garage door entrances and other facilities from motor vehicles. Those have fallen out of favor. These were discussed in some detail in a recent book about a couple of bridge collapses on the O&W railroad in the 19th and 20th centuries, written by a structual engineer.
Common term is crash wall or collision/barrier wall used interchangably. About four years ago AREMA was investigating the existing standard after the UP/BNSF collision in the Missouri bootheel. The derailment at Hermosa WY (Under I-80) got brought up multiple times as a classic case.
The current fail was from above. A crash wall would not have prevented what happened. The ISG issue is still getting batted around. Railroads insist on barrier walls where the bents, piers, bridge seats underneath and other critical infrastructure could be threatened by a derailment. Part of the recent conversation was prodded by state DOT complaints about the cost of that protection for public works projects.
I was referring to those in your link. I have heard them called guard rails or check rails. I assume that the guard rails said to be missing from the Colorado bridge are what I am referring to.
Unless I'm mistaken, the 'guard rails' here are referring to steel beams in line with the webs of the plate girders, to protect against contact with car superstructure. This is very different from a pair of 'rails' laid in the gauge to attempt to align wheelsets in trucks.
Fred M Cain daveklepper I'm appalled that the guard-rails were removed. Possibly, as a product of tyhe investigation, the FRA will order that guard rails be installed on every bridge, with exceptions permittedfor specific cases only when the railroadf proves them unnecessary. Dave, I've noticed sort of casually that guard rails on American railroad bridges have become somewhat uncommon. Seems to me that when I was a kid, at a time when many if not most rail lines had passenger trains, most of the bridges sported guard rails. But now I don't see them as often anymore. Why is that? Is it possible that with the much heavier trains that are running today that guard rails would not be able to keep a derailed train inline and prevent it from plunging off the bridge anyway? Or, has this just been an unjustifiable cost-cutting move?
daveklepper I'm appalled that the guard-rails were removed. Possibly, as a product of tyhe investigation, the FRA will order that guard rails be installed on every bridge, with exceptions permittedfor specific cases only when the railroadf proves them unnecessary.
I'm appalled that the guard-rails were removed.
Possibly, as a product of tyhe investigation, the FRA will order that guard rails be installed on every bridge, with exceptions permittedfor specific cases only when the railroadf proves them unnecessary.
Dave,
I've noticed sort of casually that guard rails on American railroad bridges have become somewhat uncommon. Seems to me that when I was a kid, at a time when many if not most rail lines had passenger trains, most of the bridges sported guard rails. But now I don't see them as often anymore. Why is that?
Is it possible that with the much heavier trains that are running today that guard rails would not be able to keep a derailed train inline and prevent it from plunging off the bridge anyway? Or, has this just been an unjustifiable cost-cutting move?
I vaguely recall this issue about guard rails being discussed here in the past. The gist of it was that a new line of thinking has emerged that indicates that guard rails might cause more harm than good.
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