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Rebirth of C&O #614

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Posted by coalminer3 on Wednesday, February 2, 2005 1:26 PM
I well recall 614 when she was operating down here. IIRC, the ACE 3000 project was in 1985. Anyway, it was one of the "coldiest and snowiest" winters here in a long time.

RE previous postings about C&O engine names

4-8-4s were "Greenbriers"
2-8-4s were "Kanawhas"

According to legend, the names were from on-line rivers.

Some other roads that used different names were, of course, the NYC (Husdon, Mohawk, Niagara), and the NC&StL. The NC&StL's 4-8-4s were called Dixies (for obvious reasons), yellowjackets, or stripes - depended on the paint scheme they had. Then there was the CMStP&P who called thier 4-6-4s Baltics.

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Posted by espeefoamer on Tuesday, February 1, 2005 1:36 PM
I never had a chance to see the 614 but it sure would be nice to have her running again[:)].
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Posted by CSXrules4eva on Tuesday, February 1, 2005 1:30 PM
I hope that one day Ross Rowland will bring the C&O Lima 614 to run the rails in the southeastern PA area. The 614 happens to be my second favorit steam loco built. I would love to see that locomotive strut her stuff!!!!!!!!!
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Posted by locomutt on Tuesday, February 1, 2005 1:18 PM
Ross,Thank You Very Much for posting that information.
Visiting that 'web site' was very informitive.
I Would Love to see that 'Girl' running again.

And 'Best of Luck' with the' other powers to be'.

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Posted by co614 on Tuesday, February 1, 2005 12:18 PM
Thanks for all the positive comments on 614. Please go to ....www.co614.com.... and check her out. Ross Rowland
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Posted by kschmidt on Monday, January 31, 2005 5:10 PM
Greetings,

According to the specs on the webpage the boiler pressure for the #614 is listed as 255psi. BOY, I would hate to see her blow her stack.

Keith

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Posted by Modelcar on Monday, January 31, 2005 2:44 PM
....How much steam pressure did she carry...? I noted some years ago when 765 was here...{Muncie}, the steam gauge was sitting on 250 psi...

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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Monday, January 31, 2005 2:38 PM
I was fortunate to have ridden behind her in a 1981 excursion in Florida. I was also even allowed inside the cab while she was steamed up! During the trip I tape recorded her sounds and snapped plenty of photos.

Wonderful experience! I hope that she runs again!

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Posted by oltmannd on Monday, January 31, 2005 12:35 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by kschmidt

Greetings,

Just an update to the original posting. According to sources I have, the C&O classified the #614 as a "Greenbrier" not as a "Northern". I guess one of the things particular to the C&O.

Just thought I would pass along that bit of information and restate - "It would be great to see that big "Greenbrier" run again". Actually that has a nice ring to it.

Keith




There are a lot of people (still!) in VA who don't like anything "northern". Wonder if that has anything to do with it[;)]

Sort of like the NYC not having a "mountain" - just a lot of "rivers".

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Posted by Grinandbearit on Saturday, January 29, 2005 8:07 PM
Ross Rowland (co614) is a member of this forum, maybe he would comment on the topic!
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Posted by Wdlgln005 on Saturday, January 29, 2005 6:53 PM
Look for videos about the New River runs in the mid-80's. Trains shouls have a shot of 614 pulling the Cardinal from Huntington to Hinton at the same time. I'd sure like to see that happen again!
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Posted by Modelcar on Saturday, January 29, 2005 1:12 PM
....614 was instrumented to run and monotor tests to find feasiblilty of using a modern steam engine against it's competition the diesel engine.....Testing was done a decade or so ago hauling real freight on real railroads....Conclusion must have been no it is not feasible to do so......Project was called the ACE3000 I believe.
Gabe: Go to Google and enter in ACE3000 and find a great drawing rendition of proposed engine.....

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Posted by spankybird on Saturday, January 29, 2005 10:55 AM
I have a video call “C & O: return of a Thoroughbred” its 150 minutes long in color. Produced by Marc S. Balkin, Narrated by Richard Melvin (of OGR fame)

Try Mark I Video, P.O. Box 404 New Milford, New Jersey 07646,
1-800-66MARK 1

It’s a great video
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Posted by locomutt on Saturday, January 29, 2005 10:35 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by spankybird

Hi Keith,

The C & O Greenbrier is the same as a Northern. When the C & O first bought them, they didn’t want to call it a Northern when it was running on a southern RR so they changed its name.

tom



Darn! After all these years,I thought it was named after The "Greenbrier" resort
at White Sulpher Springs,WVa.

Makes no difference if you call her a 'Northern' or 'Greenbrier';I would like to see her running again!!

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Posted by gabe on Saturday, January 29, 2005 10:09 AM
Can you tell us more about the videos regarding pulling coal trains to bring back main line steam? When was that and what was that all about?

Thanks,

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Posted by spankybird on Saturday, January 29, 2005 10:01 AM
Hi Keith,

The C & O Greenbrier is the same as a Northern. When the C & O first bought them, they didn’t want to call it a Northern when it was running on a southern RR so they changed its name.

tom

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Posted by kschmidt on Saturday, January 29, 2005 9:55 AM
Greetings,

Just an update to the original posting. According to sources I have, the C&O classified the #614 as a "Greenbrier" not as a "Northern". I guess one of the things particular to the C&O.

Just thought I would pass along that bit of information and restate - "It would be great to see that big "Greenbrier" run again". Actually that has a nice ring to it.

Keith

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Posted by spankybird on Saturday, January 29, 2005 8:24 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by cherokee woman

I hope so also: you all know me, I LOVE STEAM ENGINES!


I am with you on that one Cherokee. My train room is 90% steam and 80% C & O. [:D][8D]

I would love to see it run again and maybe in NE Ohio. [:p]
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Posted by cherokee woman on Saturday, January 29, 2005 7:43 AM
I hope so also: you all know me, I LOVE STEAM ENGINES!
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Posted by JoeKoh on Saturday, January 29, 2005 7:38 AM
that would be nice to see.hope it works out
stay safe
Joe

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Posted by locomutt on Friday, January 28, 2005 10:08 PM
That would be GREAT! to see her running again.
I have never had the privilege of riding behind her,
but have been blessed with being able to take pictures
of her at Huntington,Charleston,and Thurmond.

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Posted by dwil89 on Friday, January 28, 2005 9:50 PM
That would be nice to see it running again....I never got a chance to ride behind it, or watch from trackside on its Hoboken-Port Jervis runs, but after all the time, money, and effort put into 614 thus far, it would be a collosal waste to just let it sit and rust, Dave Williams http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nsaltoonajohnstown
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Rebirth of C&O #614
Posted by kschmidt on Friday, January 28, 2005 5:19 PM
Greetings,

I am pleased to announce the creation of a new webpage regarding the former Chesapeake and Ohio #614. According to emails that I have been receiving the owner of the #614 wants to bring the big C&O Northern back up to running standards. However that is going to be a fairly large undertaking.

I believe that the #614 was one of the last Northerns built. So it is pretty much state of the art for steam. I recall seeing a video of #614 actually pulling coal trains in an experiment to possibly bring back mainline working steam. However that failed to pan out.

Ckeck out the NEW webpage http://www.co614.com

There are some nice shots of the Northern running in the mid-1990's. Also some shots of the #614 in its current condition. It would be great to see this awesome steam engine run again.

Keith

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