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Western Pacific Film done by local media, ends with Helicopter crash. (Oops! got too close).

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Posted by BaltACD on Saturday, October 30, 2021 4:32 PM

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A open Tri-level with ONLY the top level loaded with vehicles. 

I'm wondering if that was because all the vehicles were pickup trucks, maybe just a little too tall for the lower levels.

In my experience during that period of time - pick ups were normally loaded on bi-levels.  Loading pick ups would have also raised total exterior height of the tri-level.

When I was working with open bi's and tri's in Baltimore Terminal.  Tri-levels loaded to a height of 17 feet 3 inches could operate at track speed through the Howard Street Tunnel.  Tri-levels loaded to 17 feet 5 inches were restricted to 10 MPH.  That was in the middle 1970's.

With the Howard Street Tunnel in the 2000's and the modifications that happened between the 1970's and 1996 (when the Baltimore Division became my territory) allowed auto racks with a maximum height of 19 feet 2 inches to operate without speed restrictions.  The primary drawback of all the undercutting of the track structure to allow the increased height is that the track level is nominally below water level of Baltimore's Inner Harbor - in 'normal' weather, this is no problem; in severe weather conditions (Severe Thunderstorms with Flash Flood Warnings, Nor'Easters with Coastal Flood Warnings) water level will routinely get above the top of the rail.  The flooding happens despite having a pumping system - under heavy precipitation the water has no place to go as all the Baltimore storm drain system is full.

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Posted by tree68 on Saturday, October 30, 2021 1:43 PM

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What I suspect would be even harder to find are compromise angle bars to match your Dudley rail to some other rail's specifics. 

We have rail - but the sticks are too short for a one-for-one replacement.  

A solution might be to weld two sticks and cut to length.  I'm not involved on that end of the operation, so I don't know if that's been discussed.

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Posted by ChuckCobleigh on Saturday, October 30, 2021 12:01 PM

BaltACD
A open Tri-level with ONLY the top level loaded with vehicles.

I'm wondering if that was because all the vehicles were pickup trucks, maybe just a little too tall for the lower levels.

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Posted by BaltACD on Saturday, October 30, 2021 7:25 AM

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Remember, depending upon location and tonnage handled, rail can remain in use for 20 - 30 - 40 - 50 years. 

We're running on 100 year old 105 pound Dudley...  Getting hard to find, though, if we need to replace a stick.

What I suspect would be even harder to find are compromise angle bars to match your Dudley rail to some other rail's specifics.  Not all rails are rolled with the same geometry and where jointed rail exists there needs to be 'compromise' angle bars that have the necessary characteristics of both rail types to be joined - for instance 105 pound Dudley on one end of the angle bar and 122 pount Nippon on the other end of the angle bar..

While welding would eliminate the need for compromise angle bars, welding two different weight and pattern of rails is a more involved procedure than it is for welding two of the same characteristic rails together.

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Posted by tree68 on Saturday, October 30, 2021 6:40 AM

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Remember, depending upon location and tonnage handled, rail can remain in use for 20 - 30 - 40 - 50 years.

We're running on 100 year old 105 pound Dudley...  Getting hard to find, though, if we need to replace a stick.

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Posted by BaltACD on Friday, October 29, 2021 8:29 PM

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One thing I had never seen until this video -  A open Tri-level with ONLY the top level loaded with vehicles. 

Trying to find a really cool CSX video to post.    It was what looked like a SD40 towing a full 1/4 mile section of welded rail by tieing it to the coupler and dragging it for several miles across RR crossings and switches.    I would have thought that would weaken the rail or cause defects but apparently not.     They were only going about 3-5 mph with it.

Rail is harder than anything it is likely to encounter in being dragged along the right of way.  Remember, depending upon location and tonnage handled, rail can remain in use for 20 - 30 - 40 - 50 years.  Of course in high curvature areas two or three years can be considered long life - so you can see the economic benefit of 'greasers' if rail life can be materially extended.

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Posted by CMStPnP on Thursday, October 28, 2021 3:55 PM

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One thing I had never seen until this video -  A open Tri-level with ONLY the top level loaded with vehicles.

Trying to find a really cool CSX video to post.    It was what looked like a SD40 towing a full 1/4 mile section of welded rail by tieing it to the coupler and dragging it for several miles across RR crossings and switches.    I would have thought that would weaken the rail or cause defects but apparently not.     They were only going about 3-5 mph with it.

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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, October 28, 2021 3:45 PM

CMStPnP

One thing I had never seen until this video - 

A open Tri-level with ONLY the top level loaded with vehicles.

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Western Pacific Film done by local media, ends with Helicopter crash. (Oops! got too close).
Posted by CMStPnP on Thursday, October 28, 2021 12:11 PM

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