Great Northern is the g.o.a.t. - greatest of all time!
The History Guy has a good video on the gauge conversion of the southern rail lines: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v81Gwu6BTE
NP-Eddie: If the ex-GN BN Clerk had been wise, he would have smiled and said:
"The Monad is a mere man-made design, while a goat is part of the Eternal's Hansiwork, and had a place, both male and female, in Noah's Ark."
The reason the South regauged to 4'-9" instead of 4'-8-1/2" was that only one rail was moved and, in general, no new ties were used. In most cases, moving the rail inward by 3-1/2" would put the new outside spike hole too close to the old inside spike hole for sufficient track striength. The wheel-axle assemblies were all regauged for 4'-8-1/2" with the intention of regauging the track again whenever new ties were installed, which happened.
The story I heard was that someone from NP visited the Korean exhibit at the 1893 World's Fair in Chicago, and saw the monad on the Korean flag and liked it.
NPMonad.pdf (streamlinermemories.info)
IIRC Custer was part of the Army troops accompanying an NP survey team for a time in 1873, three years before the Little Big Horn.
NP EddieA Northern Pacific Vice President visited Korea before 1900 and liked the symbol and that became the NP nomad. I came off the NP in the 1970 merger at Northtown (Minneapolis Yard). One night about 1980 or so, I doubled key punching. I told a a GN clerk that we had a symbol of peace and tranquilty and he had a goat. I almost go punched in the nose for that! Ed Burns
Ed Burns
I believe the symbol is called a 'monad' not nomad.
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
A Northern Pacific Vice President visited Korea before 1900 and liked the symbol and that became the NP nomad. I came off the NP in the 1970 merger at Northtown (Minneapolis Yard). One night about 1980 or so, I doubled key punching. I told a a GN clerk that we had a symbol of peace and tranquilty and he had a goat. I almost go punched in the nose for that!
Just noticed I put this on the wrong NP thread .. This was for the new Northern Pacific Airlines :) .
Not used to two active NP threads.
rdamonI would imagine that Korean Air may take offense as well.
The yin and yang symbol is ancient (Chinese), although it usually includes a dot in each of the large lobes.
Larry Resident Microferroequinologist (at least at my house) Everyone goes home; Safety begins with you My Opinion. Standard Disclaimers Apply. No Expiration Date Come ride the rails with me! There's one thing about humility - the moment you think you've got it, you've lost it...
I would imagine that Korean Air may take offense as well.
Shadow the Cats ownerSherman also made it relatively easy for the South to rebuild their system to standard guage after the Civil War.
Shadow the Cats owner Sherman also made it relatively easy for the South to rebuild their system to standard guage after the Civil War. After what his troops did to the railroads in Georgia alone.
Sherman also made it relatively easy for the South to rebuild their system to standard guage after the Civil War. After what his troops did to the railroads in Georgia alone.
Coulda, shoulda but did not. Most were rebuilt to their original gauge and not changed until the 1880s.
Mac
Sherman came to UP's rescue more than once with his forces. Many of the well known names from both sides of the Civil War were building the railroads while a few still on the Army payroll were protecting them. The army was the best source of technical expertise available at the time.
GrampAnother aside is NP took control of Wisconsin Central, giving it a direct route into Chicago. How the railroad history of the northern states may have been different from that point forward, but NP lost control of WC during the 1893 financial panic.
They paid a portion of the construction costs for the Milwaukee Road Depot in Milwaukee, "Everett Street Station" as well as a portion of the construction costs of Grand Central in Chicago.
Another aside is NP took control of Wisconsin Central, giving it a direct route into Chicago. How the railroad history of the northern states may have been different from that point forward, but NP lost control of WC during the 1893 financial panic.
For what it's worth, Custer, Mont., is a named station point with 7,180-foot siding on BNSF's Forsyth Sub, formerly the NP main line.
CMStPnP Flintlock76 Great Big Baked Potato Who knows.....lol.....maybe that was the nickname for Custer at LBH. :)
Flintlock76 Great Big Baked Potato
Who knows.....lol.....maybe that was the nickname for Custer at LBH. :)
Yeah, I guess after he'd been lying in the sun for a while!
Flintlock76Great Big Baked Potato
What a shame. Custer never lived to enjoy an NP "Great Big Baked Potato."
I was researching some history of the Northern Pacific Railway and read that General George Custer was providing security at various times for the NP railway survey and construction workers in Montana. Just thought that was kind of interesting and would share. One could only guess what NP management at the time thought of Little Big Horn. Not to mention the NP Railroad Police Dept.
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