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403 Forbidden Error
Posted by BaltACD on Monday, December 21, 2020 7:48 AM

Since the 'alledged' software upgrade earlier this month I have gotten '403 Forbidden' error messages when attempting to post.

That I have been able to detect, there is no particular 'situation' which causes the error.  At times it happens and at times it doesn't.

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Posted by MMLDelete on Monday, December 21, 2020 9:04 AM

Me too. Three swings, all from phone; I struck out.

 CT forum liked me enough, though.

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Posted by BaltACD on Monday, December 21, 2020 9:13 AM

It appears that the Trains forum and the Classic Trains forums are running different software from each other.  I can't formulate a good reason why.

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Posted by MMLDelete on Monday, December 21, 2020 10:02 AM

Ironic the the "old train forum" has the more modern software.

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Posted by MMLDelete on Monday, December 21, 2020 10:08 AM

To tell you the truth, I keep hearing about the "new" online Trains and forums. But I'm yet to notice one iota of difference.

I watched a video which seems to promise that they're going to put some content behind a paywall, though. I don't know if subscriptions to Trains and CT (which I have) will qualify as a secret handshake or not.

Maybe they're just not done yet. Heck, I'm still waiting for America to complete our conversion to metric.

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Posted by caldreamer on Monday, December 21, 2020 10:21 AM

403 Forbidden message means that you have hit a firewall that will not allow you access.  It is up to the person who monitores and controls acess to the network to allow access to the system.

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, December 21, 2020 11:18 AM

I was getting that during the "outage."  It's all better now.  

I did notice that there were comments, etc during the event, but I couldn't do so.

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Posted by mudchicken on Monday, December 21, 2020 11:27 AM

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Posted by Overmod on Monday, December 21, 2020 11:40 AM

Lithonia Operator
Heck, I'm still waiting for America to complete our conversion to metric.

We did that, where it mattered, in 1876.  Why wait for where it doesn't?

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Posted by Overmod on Monday, December 21, 2020 11:44 AM

BaltACD
It appears that the Trains forum and the Classic Trains forums are running different software from each other.  I can't formulate a good reason why

They're all on different servers, with different oversight and different support.  Model Railroader has even more profound forum differences.  They all use a common sign-in credential -- although this is different from the sign-in you make with the same information when you want to comment on articles.  

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Monday, December 21, 2020 11:48 AM

Overmod

 

 
Lithonia Operator
Heck, I'm still waiting for America to complete our conversion to metric.

 

We did that, where it mattered, in 1876.  Why wait for where it doesn't?

 

 

God in His wisdom put the Atlantic Ocean where it is to keep Napoleon, Hitler, Stalin, and the metric system OUT of the New World!  I'm not going to argue with Him!

He put the English Channel where it is for the same reason, to keep the above and Phillip of Spain out as well.  The Brits went metric anyway.  Some still aren't sure it was a good idea!  Whistling

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Posted by MMLDelete on Monday, December 21, 2020 12:21 PM

Overmod

 

 
Lithonia Operator
Heck, I'm still waiting for America to complete our conversion to metric.

 

We did that, where it mattered, in 1876.  Why wait for where it doesn't?

 

 

With all due respect, I'm not sure I understand the bolded sentence.

In any event, I remember the period when we were "going metric." Road signs began apperaring with mileages in both English and Metric, in preparation for when everything would be metric. Then the whole thing faded away, and the kilometers began disappearing.

It was truly an exciting time. Zzz

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Posted by Overmod on Monday, December 21, 2020 12:29 PM

What I meant was that we made metric the legal basis of our systems of measurement.  We adopted it elsewhere, as in science and pharmacy, where it made sense.  We have largely not been buffaloed into going further merely because others use inconvenient or pointless units.

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In any event, I remember the period when we were "going metric."
We missed the golden opportunity back in the '70s where road measurements were concerned, by not simply pegging the National speed limit at a nice, truck-gear-friendly 100km/h.  This had all the semantics associated with 'doing the ton', too, in a world where reducing displayed speed limits on speedometers was seen as useful psychological retraining -- and heaven knows it worked on me!

Perhaps learning to recast distances in km into local dimensions in meters and millimeters (centimeters being officially deprecated in SI, remember) would have taken longer, but if there were indeed a real advantage to measuring in powers of 10 it would have been a significant 'foot in the door' (or nose in the tent for the paranoid Imperial-ists among us).

But no, we used 88 instead, and things took a predictable who-gives-a-crap-what-units-say-"too damn slow" course.  

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Posted by Erik_Mag on Monday, December 21, 2020 2:55 PM

IMBO, the best unit of length would have been the distance light travels in 1 nsec...

For a funny mixed metric/imperial calculation, consider that the power expressed by 1lbf at 1 statute mile per hour is 1.99 watts.

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Posted by Overmod on Monday, December 21, 2020 3:09 PM

Erik_Mag
IMBO, the best unit of length would have been the distance light travels in 1 nsec...

Proof that the Creator intended English units to be best! Wink (Where were Sellar and Yeatman when we could have used them???)

Although it's fundamentally near-useless as a reproduceable standard without a certain amount of complicated technology requiring very skilled calibration... to humans.

 That is why I so liked the idea of the pendulum length that beats precisely 1 second at the Equator ... in the days before synchronomes and BIPM and UCT fouled up the idea that celestial motion is smooth and reliable ... as the basis for a 'rational scientific' system based on 10.  The problem for the meretric system is that (1) in precise science, origin stories matter, and (2) in matters of ultimate precision, close is no cigar.  What rational system defines its unit of length in fractional wavelengths of an emission spectrum?

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Posted by Semper Vaporo on Monday, December 21, 2020 3:09 PM

For measuring speed, I have always been partial to "FpF" (Furlongs per Fortnight).

I think 1 FpF is the speed of the tip of the minute hand on clock of a diameter of about 6-inches.

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Pkgs.

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Posted by Overmod on Monday, December 21, 2020 3:10 PM

Semper Vaporo
I think 1 FpF is the speed of the tip of the minute hand on clock of a diameter of about 6-inches.

Now, there's an experimental scientist after my own heart!

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Posted by NKP guy on Monday, December 21, 2020 8:20 PM

Overmod
Proof that the Creator intended English units to be best! 

   "If God had intended the world to use the metric system, he would have had 10 Apostles"

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Posted by Erik_Mag on Tuesday, December 22, 2020 12:31 AM

Overmod

The problem for the meretric system is that (1) in precise science, origin stories matter, and (2) in matters of ultimate precision, close is no cigar.  What rational system defines its unit of length in fractional wavelengths of an emission spectrum?

The latest definition of the meter is a given fraction of the distance that light travels in one second - various metrology geeks figured out how to measure frequency of either NIR or optical wavelengths and the decision was made to fix the speed of light and use advances in metrology to better define the meter.

The current standard inch is defined as a relatively simple fraction of a meter, leading some interesting results where the U.S. Letter size paper sheet can be expressed exactly with a tenth of a millimeter resolution where A4 paper can only be approximated.

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Posted by JC UPTON on Tuesday, December 22, 2020 8:08 AM

Semper Vaporo

For measuring speed, I have always been partial to "FpF" (Furlongs per Fortnight).

I think 1 FpF is the speed of the tip of the minute hand on clock of a diameter of about 6-inches.

 

All sorts of fun conversions; FpF, along with volume in acre-ft, area in square yards, flow in ..??..,  etc...

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Posted by rdamon on Tuesday, December 22, 2020 8:30 AM

Can't match the precision of a cubit

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Posted by Overmod on Tuesday, December 22, 2020 8:54 AM

rdamon
Can't match the precision of a cubit

And it's the unit the Lord specified in the measurement of the Holy City.  What more recommendation need there be?

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Posted by Erik_Mag on Monday, December 28, 2020 3:10 PM

FWIW, I've been getting the 403 forbidden error every time in trying to reply to a post on the Transit section. This was over a period of 15 hours and with two different browsers.

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Monday, December 28, 2020 3:46 PM

I've gotten some 403's myself today, some on the "Classic Trains" Forum and some on "Classic Toy Trains."  

Probably something to do with the rest of the mess 2020 has been.

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Posted by BaltACD on Monday, December 28, 2020 3:51 PM

I was getting 403's yesterday - deleted all the cookies from the various 'trains' sites in my browser and was able to get back posting.

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Posted by Erik_Mag on Monday, December 28, 2020 6:25 PM

Just tried deleting cookies and logging in again, still got the 403 error on the Transit forum. Hmm

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, December 29, 2020 1:39 PM

It comes and it goes.  Kalmbach IT.

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Posted by Erik_Mag on Tuesday, December 29, 2020 2:17 PM

Figured....

Weird thing is that I haven't had a 403 error on the General Discussion forum.

Wrote that a bit too soon.

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, December 29, 2020 10:38 PM

Just got it and now I am posting W?????????????????

I seems if I am quoting a prior post in my reply I am more likely to get the 403 error.  If I am posting 'straightaway' I am more likely to be successful.

The other thing I see  -  When the 403 comes up it is immediate.  When a successful post is made there is a delay in processing.

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Saturday, January 2, 2021 10:23 AM

Yes again.  Have taken to copying posts before  submitting.

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