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News wire Comments Change when order changed/
Posted by Electroliner 1935 on Friday, November 6, 2020 7:37 PM

When I look at the comments for items on the NEWS , I frequently want to change the order from MOST RECENT to OLDEST TO NEWEST. Tonight, and looking at 

it showed 4 replies in the MOST RECENT order and when I selected the O - N, it showed 2. AND they were different.

M R showed replies by: Paul Smith, 43 min; Bob Alkire , 3 hrs; Andrew Selden, 9 hrs; Charles Landey, 12 hrs ago.

And O to N showed replies by: Andrew Chandler, 11 hrs; Mark Shapp 7 hrs. 

Could someone tell me why this is occuring?

I checked and it also occured on other items.

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Posted by mvlandsw on Friday, November 6, 2020 8:07 PM

That's happened to me several times.

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Posted by BaltACD on Friday, November 6, 2020 10:19 PM

Electroliner 1935
When I look at the comments for items on the NEWS , I frequently want to change the order from MOST RECENT to OLDEST TO NEWEST. Tonight, and looking at 

it showed 4 replies in the MOST RECENT order and when I selected the O - N, it showed 2. AND they were different.

M R showed replies by: Paul Smith, 43 min; Bob Alkire , 3 hrs; Andrew Selden, 9 hrs; Charles Landey, 12 hrs ago.

And O to N showed replies by: Andrew Chandler, 11 hrs; Mark Shapp 7 hrs. 

Could someone tell me why this is occuring?

I checked and it also occured on other items.

Kalmbach IT strikes again!

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Posted by Overmod on Saturday, November 7, 2020 8:09 AM

As of 8:00 this morning, the comments (now up to 10) were displayed "correctly" newest-first, following the global preference I made in 'settings' for the Kalmbach sites, and changing to 'oldest to newest' did display them correctly by approximate time (there is no precise stamp as with forum posts).

The MR forum continues to ignore the global setting and display any thread 'oldest to newest', but it does list them correctly in reverse order when that selection is made at the top of a page.

After posting, the page display goes haywire, with the display going to some post on the first page, and wack numbering including -1.  Interestingly, the page before -1 is not "-2" as you might expect, but "*".  It takes real creative programming to sustain that level of weirdness in what is basically a commodity software package...

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Posted by Electroliner 1935 on Saturday, November 7, 2020 4:16 PM

Overmod
Overmod wrote the following post 8 hours ago: As of 8:00 this morning, the comments (now up to 10) were displayed "correctly" newest-first, following the global preference I made in 'settings' for the Kalmbach sites, and changing to 'oldest to newest' did display them correctly by approximate time (there is no precise stamp as with forum posts).

I wish I could confirm what you stated. As of 3:50pm CST, I find that Most Recent shows 12 post while Oldest to Newest shows 2 posts. And these two are not shown in the 12. Here are the two. 
Home Andrew Chandler
Passenger travel is complicated by so many systems needing to intersect and work together. This is invisible to the traveler. The simplistic solution usually results in an unrealized complexity. The best organizations adapt in the application of systems and are ready to seize the opportunity to do so. Ask any Field Artillery officer. Blessings
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Mark Shapp
Yes Charles and Mr. Selden, this is "sabotage" or the dynamiting of these trains. I wrote a letter to that effect to Mr. William Vantuono, Senior Editor Railway Age, a person from his writings who does support a credible national network. Pity that the President of RPA (if anyone pays attention to them anymore) hasn't the spine to call out Messers. Anthony Coscia, Flynn/Anderson, Stephen Gardner, and Roger Harris for what they are doing. The only way this gets turned around is for Congress to demand, and get, the resignations of the above people and replace them with rail-minded people who want to light candles rather than curse the darkness. Congress has to decide if they want credible national or not. And if not then the course is set. I just hope if we are not going to have credible national then we don't have the NEC either. I want to deny Coscia and Gardner their playpen, their 450-mile, one foot=one foot, model railroad between Boston and DC. This is so sad.
 I don't know what Kalmbach software IT department does but I sure don't think they understand how this is working (or not).
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Posted by Overmod on Sunday, November 8, 2020 5:22 AM

Checking at 5:18, I actually show 2 posts for Shapp with the same time stamp (~"15 hours") one starting with a comment about Kay Bailey Hutchinson.  

That the feature works on a phone when Kalmbach IT can't even support access to PMs on one tells me this is likely in how your browser receives their code.  What are you using?  If you have a different browser, log in with it and see if the problem shows up the same way, or differently.

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Posted by Electroliner 1935 on Monday, November 9, 2020 12:27 AM

Overmod
That the feature works on a phone when Kalmbach IT can't even support access to PMs on one tells me this is likely in how your browser receives their code.  What are you using?  If you have a different browser, log in with it and see if the problem shows up the same way, or differently.

Sir, You are spot on. I have been using CHROME but MS's EDGE does not show the condition. I wonder if there is some buffer where the browser stores the data and the sort is done with the buffers data. Thank you. 

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Posted by Overmod on Monday, November 9, 2020 11:13 AM

Electroliner 1935
I wonder if there is some buffer where the browser stores the data and the sort is done with the buffers data.

There is, and it's the 'cache' that is supposed to be cleared with Ctrl-F5 during the "browser ritual" you've probably seen discussed here from time to time.

There are ways to fine tune cache (and other) management in Chrome; I don't use it unless I absolutely, positively can't arrange 'not to' so I won't be of much help with detailed specifics -- but others who swear by Chrome can chime in with proper advice.

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Posted by Leo_Ames on Monday, November 9, 2020 8:32 PM

Has anyone else noticed that Newswire articles themselves seemingly are out of order? 

I regularly will scroll down and suddenly see something that I would've read when it was first uploaded, but didn't see at the time. It's as if the newest newswire article isn't always the 1st in the list.

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Wednesday, July 7, 2021 12:25 PM

 

 

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Wednesday, July 7, 2021 12:52 PM

Is anyone else having the topics presented in a verticle format?  Only about 4-6 letters in a line then to next line.  try reading that.

 

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