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CP and CN crew change points between Montreal and Vanvouver, BC or on US lines.

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CP and CN crew change points between Montreal and Vanvouver, BC or on US lines.
Posted by NP Eddie on Tuesday, August 11, 2020 5:27 PM

A number of years ago, "Trains" had a map of BNSF crew change points.

Does anyone have a map(s) or information on Canadian Pacific and Canadian National crew change points in Canada and the USA.

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Posted by SD70Dude on Tuesday, August 11, 2020 6:51 PM

CN's historic divisional points on the mainline, west to east:

British Columbia:  Vancouver (Thornton Yard, formerly known as Port Mann) Boston Bar, Kamloops, Blue River.  On the north line they are Prince Rupert, Terrace (relocated from Pacific when the Kitimat line was built after WWII, Pacific is now a ghost town), Smithers, Endako, Prince George, and McBride.

Alberta:  Jasper, Edson, Edmonton (Walker Yard, formerly known as Calder), and Wainwright.

Saskatchewan:  Biggar, Watrous, and Melville. More recently things have changed and most trains run Melville-Saskatoon, and Saskatoon-Wainwright.  Biggar was closed as a home terminal, with the employees relocating to Saskatoon (where many of them already lived).  Saskatoon crews had previously only worked branchlines and their yard, while Biggar and Melville crews owned the mainline, just like when Grand Trunk and Canadian Northern were still around.

Manitoba:  Rivers, Winnipeg (Symington Yard).

Ontario:  Redditt, Sioux Lookout, Armstrong, Nakina, Hornepayne, Foleyet, Capreol, Brent, Ottawa, Montreal (most of the Capreol-Montreal route has now been abandoned).  Also South Parry (Parry Sound) on the way to Toronto.  

During the 1990s CN negotiated the ability to operate trains over two consecutive subdivisions with one crew, on the property this is called "extended run" or "double sub" operation.  Most trains operate across northern Ontario in this manner, with Sioux Lookout-Armstrong still being single sub.  Most trains between Prince George and Prince Rupert are also double sub with crews changing at Smithers, but few other trains now operate in this manner as you cannot reliably make it over the road in 12 hours due to excessive congestion.

Greetings from Alberta

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Posted by NP Eddie on Wednesday, August 12, 2020 11:59 AM

Thank you!

I discovered two Canadian films from the 1950's on "Periscope Films". Meilleville, SK on the CN. The second one is about the Canadian Pacific.

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