Chatterbox Winter 2019-2020

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Posted by JoeKoh on Wednesday, February 5, 2020 4:50 PM

evening

Did errands after work.Heard some Ns trains.Stacey says NS was looking at the box uptown where the crossing is.Thing is the other part of the crossing signal was put away somewhere.Carl Ohio is considering having drivers have a permit for 1 full year before getting their license.Mother nature is going to send us some stuff tomorrow.I bought some more ice melt just in case.

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Joe

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Posted by Electroliner 1935 on Wednesday, February 5, 2020 8:51 PM

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We are getting snow later--maybe starting tomorrow--and it may be "an accumulating event".

In other news, possibly related, my elder granddaughter has gotten her learner's permit, effective today. 

My grandson also has his permit, don't think that Dad will let him on the road for the next few days (I hope)Whistling 

Presuming there is a nearby expanse of paved space that no longer has cars parked or too many light poles - take the 'new' drivers out and let them learn from experience how to spin or stop the spinning of a vehicle.  Real world skills that are rarely if ever taught to drivers.

My Dad took me to a nearby shopping center when it snowed so I could learn the critical aspects of car control - fortunately in the middle 60's parking lots weren't 'beautified' with flower and tree planters all over the place.

Thats how I learned and I told my son to do the same. But he got into trouble when he did it because the school where he did it had had some issues and neighbors alerted the police who came and for some reason, when they ran the plates, they came  back to some individual in Chicago. I got called and they let him go but removed the plates from the car until I came in with the title & registration. Secretary of State error. He was dating a girl who was the school principals daughter and this was the grade school he had gone to. Would love to have watched that conversation when this occurred. 

It is hard these days to find empty parking lots that you can do this. But it is still the best way to find what a car does on snow.

PS, For Carl, it was Pleasant Lane 

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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, February 5, 2020 9:29 PM

It's too bad GMPG in Milford, MI can't do something along that line with "Black Lake," the Vehicle Dynamics Test Area.  Eighty-some acres of uninhibited blacktop.  No islands, no light poles, no nuthin'.  With a little supervision (no demolition derbies, please) people could do donuts to their heart's content.  

You can easily find it on a satellite image, about three miles west of Milford.  "Black Lake" is inside the circular track on the northern portion of the facility.

That's what they basically do with it anyhow, just not for the general public.

We're expecting winter weather over the next couple of days, but not a lot of accumulation.  The snowblower is ready...

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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, February 5, 2020 10:58 PM

Ah, yes, Pleasant Lane School.  I've been in the building, and I presume that the parking lot doubles as a playground.  That would be typical.

We were kept awake one night by some teenagers doing donuts on the lot of the school across the street from us (Madison School, formerly the Junior High).  We weren't watching until the squeal of cornering tires was punctuated by the sound of the car hitting the wall!  We observed a cloud of either coolant vapor or tire smoke, called 911, and I can't remember what transpired after that.  Pretty sure the car couldn't be driven away, though.

I'm not sure what will transpire downstate when Kates gets behind the wheel.  She has a very good head on her shoulders.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Thursday, February 6, 2020 10:12 AM

Left for work this morning with about three inches of snow already fallen.  Drive to the station wasn't too bad but overall conditions made me glad that I don't drive to work.  Train was only about five minutes late.

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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, February 6, 2020 1:21 PM

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Left for work this morning with about three inches of snow already fallen.  Drive to the station wasn't too bad but overall conditions made me glad that I don't drive to work.  Train was only about five minutes late.

We saw about an inch and a half of snow by 10:00 AM.  As of right now we've gotten maybe another quarter inch or so.

OTOH, some schools outright closed, others are releasing early, and this is all supposed to continue into Friday.  Might turn serious yet...

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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, February 6, 2020 2:11 PM

Final 2 1/2 years of high school were in NE Ohio.  We got 1 Snow Day in those 2 1/2 years - the Superintendent of the system had his car slide into a ditch trying to exit his driveway - thought busses might have some issues and called it a Snow Day.

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Posted by JoeKoh on Thursday, February 6, 2020 4:09 PM

evening

Saw an Ns eastbound after work.When Matt did get his permit took him right to an industrial drive.Still is just a road right now.Got to feel what it was like to drive on the ice and snow.Guessers say more stuff tonight.Looking at the county roads I told Matt he will probably off tomorrow as well.

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Thursday, February 6, 2020 8:34 PM

Hope none of you snow birds get into trouble.  My rain guage just broke 


correction 5".  We have flood wanings all over the place.  Due to the past rains over January all the lakes are at over full.  So with no place to go the dams are having to open flood gates.  Columbus ga's river walk under water from West Point lake. 

EDIT:  Just read that the Great Lakes are also over full.  What are the authorities doing to mitigate this problem ?  Does that mean Niagra Falls is open 24/7 ?  Saw Houses being washed into lake and other houses are being moved back where possible ?

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Posted by CShaveRR on Thursday, February 6, 2020 8:55 PM

Paul, you've gotten more snow toward the city than we have in the 'burbs.  I'm not even bothering to shovel here.

We went back to being docents at the Sheldon Peck House Museum in Lombard today, after a break during the winter months (as a point on the Underground Railroad, our winer ends in February (Black History Month), same as Dairy Queen locally (open next Monday).  We had a few freights, mostly stackers, come through, as well as a unit train of empty soybean covered hoppers.   They're slightly larger than your typical corn cars, closer to 5400 cubic feet instead of 5200.

Flooding:  nothing immediate, but there is a definite crisis along the shores of the upper Great Lakes.  In my stomping grounds (the "Land of No Trains" in western Michigan), there have been cottages that have fallen into the Lake, due to the wave action coupled with record high levels.  Water is high everywhere, so allowing Chicago to flush out its rivers with Lake Michigan water would be bad downstream on the Illinois River, and not lower the water level all that much.  Somebody from further east would have to address whether Niagara Falls is flowing more heavily than normal, with the full amount being diverted to power-plant usage.  In my home town, the marinas are pretty much out of business because the water is rendering the docks useless.  My sister says (tongue in cheek) that she now has lakefront property since Spring Lake rises with the height of Lake Michigan.  The south pierat the mouth of the Grand River, recently rebuilt, as quite frequently awash with wave action.  It's not going to be damaged, but I'm not venturing out there, either.

Bad news for me this week:  my cancer has returned with a vengeance, affecting lower spine, ribs, and pelvis.  We're still having imaging done, but within a couple of weeks we should have a course of action planned.  I'm not in much pain, and the doctors are working together to decide the right course of treatment (I would have preferred radiation, but it may be too widespread for that).  I hope you won't mind if I keep you, my friends, informed on this...I felt a bit bad about not being in the loop when Saints Mookie and Blysard were dying from their afflictions.  As of now, I'm not dying yet, I hope.  But having just lost my daughter, and finding that my cancer is taking pretty much the same course as hers did...I'm here to fight this.

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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, February 6, 2020 10:07 PM

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Just read that the Great Lakes are also over full.  What are the authorities doing to mitigate this problem ?  Does that mean Niagra Falls is open 24/7 ?  Saw Houses being washed into lake and other houses are being moved back where possible ?

The only lake with any sort of level control is Lake Ontario - all of the others flow unfettered (by man) into the next lake.  All of the Great Lakes are a foot and more over normal for this time of year.  We can only hope that the good side of the limited snowfall we've seen so far this year will be less runoff and thus lower lake levels further into the year.

The flip side may be lower water tables - a problem for those reliant on wells.

We have an ongoing battle here along Lake Ontario and the St Lawrence River over plan 2014D, which dictates how the levels of the lake and river will be managed.  Many blame the new plan for recent flooding in the area.  Ominous in that respect was a statement by an environmentalist who advised that lake and river shore property owners should get used to the "new normal."

Those who favor the new management plan point out that all of the lakes are high - not just Lake Ontario and the St. Lawrence River.  In addition, near-record flows on the Ottawa River in Canada contributed (along with high levels on the St. Lawrence) to much flooding in the Montreal area this past spring.

It's a complicated issue, for sure.

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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, February 6, 2020 10:24 PM

tree68
It's a complicated issue, for sure.

Very Illuminating.

https://www.facebook.com/NOVApbs/videos/188512298879727/?t=0

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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, February 6, 2020 10:34 PM

CShaveRR
Bad news for me this week:

Carl - Very sorry to hear that.  I know you've been fighting this battle for quite a while.  We're with you.

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Posted by NorthWest on Thursday, February 6, 2020 11:49 PM

Carl,

Know that you're in our thoughts. Best wishes, and good luck.

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Posted by JoeKoh on Friday, February 7, 2020 4:41 PM

evening

Matt was closed for school today again.He still had to go do dishes.The sunshine did wonders today for the roads.Was able to go uptown and give our new Deshler friends a map and pictures for them to look at.Watched csx for a bit and saw some trains.They have a slow order on track 2 around the maumee bridge area.Going to take brother out tomorrow and see what we can find.Carl always keep you and those in the chatterbox family in our prayers.

stay safe

Joe

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Posted by tree68 on Friday, February 7, 2020 8:03 PM

I think all of our schools were closed today, between last night's freezing rain and today's snowing and blowing.  I only measured 3.25" of snow here, but folks further east were talking a foot or more.

It's a very fine snow, too.  Not exactly "heart attack" wet snow, but still pretty heavy.

Getting ready for a training day on Sunday, to keep area firefighters up to snuff on safety knowledge requirements.  It's an annual thing.  Tomorrow it's shopping for morning snacks and lunch.  

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Posted by BaltACD on Friday, February 7, 2020 8:38 PM

The same storm system that snowed and blowed in the Mid-West and up the Atlantic Coast - blew through the Jacksonvill area last night- a nunber of large trees were blown down - the local schools canceled their scheduled 'after school' activities in anticipation of the storm.  There were winds in the 50-60 MPH range to go along with thunderstorms and a few tornado warnings.

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Posted by samfp1943 on Friday, February 7, 2020 8:57 PM

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The same storm system that snowed and blowed in the Mid-West and up the Atlantic Coast - blew through the Jacksonvill area last night- a nunber of large trees were blown down - the local schools canceled their scheduled 'after school' activities in anticipation of the storm.  There were winds in the 50-60 MPH range to go along with thunderstorms and a few tornado warnings.

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Friday, February 7, 2020 9:36 PM

This weather is having a field day putting all the pine trees down.  That is especially the results on CSX and NS not keeping their ROW cleared back  PSR probably does not help ?  

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Posted by Deggesty on Saturday, February 8, 2020 7:57 AM

Carl, I am sorry to hear of the recurrence. You are in my prayers.

I just now was able to read your post--for some unknown reason, I could not get tothe current page for two days; I would click on the "6," and it took me to page 5.

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Posted by BaltACD on Saturday, February 8, 2020 8:00 AM

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This weather is having a field day putting all the pine trees down.  That is especially the results on CSX and NS not keeping their ROW cleared back  PSR probably does not help ?  

Many of the blown down trees that block tracks have their roots off of railroad property.  Keeping the right of way clear of vegitation is one thing, cutting timber off railroad property is called Trespass.

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Posted by mudchicken on Saturday, February 8, 2020 8:32 AM

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This weather is having a field day putting all the pine trees down.  That is especially the results on CSX and NS not keeping their ROW cleared back  PSR probably does not help ?  

 

Many of the blown down trees that block tracks have their roots off of railroad property.  Keeping the right of way clear of vegitation is one thing, cutting timber off railroad property is called Trespass.

 

So is the drainage from off the property that winds up directed/dumped on the property. (at a bridge/culvert that was not designed to handle it.)

Our 2"-6" of snow turned into 14"+....Going back out to shovel off the tail end of the snowstorm.

Then again - Living out on the Colorado high prairie - What's a tree?.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Saturday, February 8, 2020 10:05 AM

A tree is a rather large plant growing in your neighbor's front lawn that sheds all of its leaves onto your front lawn every fall.

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Posted by JoeKoh on Saturday, February 8, 2020 2:36 PM

afternoon

Took brother out today.Saw some good stuff on CSX and NS today.Also saw some real horsepower as well.They were using them to pull some logs out of the woods.Matt gets to go do dishes tonight.Mother nature to send snow tomorrow night.We'll see what we get.

stay safe

Joe

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Posted by tree68 on Saturday, February 8, 2020 7:32 PM

CSSHEGEWISCH

A tree is a rather large plant growing in your neighbor's front lawn that sheds all of its leaves onto your front lawn every fall.

Hey - leave me out of this...    Smile, Wink & Grin

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Posted by BaltACD on Saturday, February 8, 2020 7:58 PM

mudchicken
 So is the drainage from off the property that winds up directed/dumped on the property. (at a bridge/culvert that was not designed to handle it.)

Drainage is natures way of saying F U.

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Saturday, February 8, 2020 9:07 PM

At least in my state if my tree hangs over your property line you can cut it back to the property line including any limbs.  Had a couple of nasty incidents here in town of a tree that leaned over another's property line.  Leaning tree owner would not co-operate so other person had it cut back to property line.  Leaner lost big in court !   

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Posted by mudchicken on Saturday, February 8, 2020 10:08 PM

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A tree is a rather large plant growing in your neighbor's front lawn that sheds all of its leaves onto your front lawn every fall.

 

Hey - leave me out of this...    Smile, Wink & Grin

 

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All a roadmaster needed to know was drainage/drainage/drainage until it was beyond your control.

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Posted by JoeKoh on Sunday, February 9, 2020 2:33 PM

afternoon

Worked some Ot today.Saw a Detroit Edison train put out of the siding and go east this morning.Ns was clear when I left work.Matts work called and said he didn't have to do dishes tonight.Had a snow squall on the way home.We'll see what comes for tomorrow.

stay safe

Joe

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, February 10, 2020 7:15 AM

Long day yesterday (Sunday) - I've been working on putting together an all day training session with several speakers and yesterday was the day.  Kind of disappointing - only twenty or so area firefighters showed up.  Another department ran a similar session on Saturday, which might have "stolen" a few attendees, but there were people who should have been here that weren't...

It's a rainy day and Monday here - time to relax and refresh.  With retirement, it seems like weekends are my workdays...

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