The same thing can be said about fences and decorations put into place by landscapers at shippers and receivers that trucking companies service. My hubby was going into a brand new place about 22 years ago for Kraft foods. He was the first truck into the place. Well the designer of the place thought that the place was only going to get straight trucks into their delivery point not 53 foot trailers being pulled by 265 in wheelbase tractors. Well he shows up goes I can not get into the door without taking out most of the trees you planted. The plant manager comes out goes your kidding they planted those after we said NOT TO DO IT. He went yes sir they did. He was told run them over and I will call the designer and tell him he is getting the bill for the damages to the trailer and anything else. 15 Trees later and a few choice words on the phone from the plant manager to the designer needless to say the designer paid out close to 4 grand to repair a brand new trailer.
Jeff, the man who was bending low over the top of the car may well ahve been there before. I trust no one had been hurt because he was unaware of the danger there.
Johnny
Paul_D_North_Jr Deggesty There used to be signs that indicated that there was insufficient clearance at such points. T the moment, I do not recall the exact wording. Usually "Close Clearance", "Close Side Clearance", or "Close Overhead Clearance", at least in this part of the country. Here are links to a couple of examples: https://www.aldonco.com/store/p/462-Danger-Close-Clearance-sign.aspx https://www.accuform.com/traffic/rail-sign-FRR752 Mr. mudchicken has some horror stories about situations like that, especially at agricultural-related industries. - PDN.
Deggesty There used to be signs that indicated that there was insufficient clearance at such points. T the moment, I do not recall the exact wording.
Usually "Close Clearance", "Close Side Clearance", or "Close Overhead Clearance", at least in this part of the country. Here are links to a couple of examples:
https://www.aldonco.com/store/p/462-Danger-Close-Clearance-sign.aspx
https://www.accuform.com/traffic/rail-sign-FRR752
Mr. mudchicken has some horror stories about situations like that, especially at agricultural-related industries.
- PDN.
Also "No Clearance" or "No clearance for man on side (or top) of car."
Somewhere out there is a vintage picture of a man riding the side of a car near the top. He's bending over the car's roof as they shove into a customer's dock with a roof overhang. IIRC, there is a no clearance sign on the edge of the building/overhang.
Jeff
Paul_D_North_Jr BaltACD . . . the construction did not survive the placement of the first car for the customer. . . . Note - no railroad personnel were on site during the construction of the original door and stairway. "The first train through the limits of a project will confirm and resolve any concerns about clearances." - No. 14 from "Brian’s 21 Cardinal Rules of Railway Design" (AREMA Committee 25 Education and Training, Track Alignment Design 2 seminar subcommittee working document). The part about no railroad personnel being present is typical, too. - PDN.
BaltACD . . . the construction did not survive the placement of the first car for the customer. . . . Note - no railroad personnel were on site during the construction of the original door and stairway.
"The first train through the limits of a project will confirm and resolve any concerns about clearances."
- No. 14 from "Brian’s 21 Cardinal Rules of Railway Design" (AREMA Committee 25 Education and Training, Track Alignment Design 2 seminar subcommittee working document).
The part about no railroad personnel being present is typical, too.
At the time - the owner was converting three bays of a 15 or more bay commercial warehouse facility into office space for use by Chessie System. At the time the renovations were taking place Chessie System had not taken occupancy of the facility.
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The commercial warehouse space that Chessie System rented to house the Baltimore Terminal Services Center needed to have a door and stairway out the back of the rented space so that clerks could get in a position to 'check' both inbound and outbound trains.
The need for the door and stairs was communicated to the organization that the space was being rented from - their contractors arrived and installed a doorway at nominal floor height (which was about 2.5 feet ABOVE ground level) and installed a stairway from the porch they built at the doorway - right at the end of the ties of the track that served other customers that were housed in the building - the construction did not survive the placement of the first car for the customer. Thereafter, the contractors constructed a stairway INSIDE the buiilding, with a inward opening door to give the clerks access to the outside.
Note - no railroad personnel were on site during the construction of the original door and stairway.
DeggestyThere used to be signs that indicated that there was insufficient clearance at such points. T the moment, I do not recall the exact wording.
CSSHEGEWISCH Amtrak train crews periodically remind passengers to wear shoes while walking through the train and also mention that there are pinch points between the cars.
Amtrak train crews periodically remind passengers to wear shoes while walking through the train and also mention that there are pinch points between the cars.
Not railroad, but further illustrates the point - you'll see such warnings on "bend-in-the-middle" construction equipment.
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There used to be signs that indicated that there was insufficient clearance at such points. T the moment, I do not recall the exact wording.
A "Pinch Point" is any place that may look to be without danger, but in certain situations might result in a crushing injury. I have seen that sign on the side of a building that a RR track goes past. It is a warning to anyone that when a train is present, there is not room for a person to be in that place. Either standing at that point or hanging on the side of a moving train.
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Pkgs.
JPS1On or near the cab door of an Amtrak P42 that I saw today there was a sign labelled "Pinch Point" What does that mean?
Put your hand or finger in the area and operate the door to find out. You will never ask the question again.
On or near the cab door of an Amtrak P42 that I saw today there was a sign labelled "Pinch Point" What does that mean?
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