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Shadow the Cats owner When a carrier like Prime or KLLM or Stevens all whom use IM shipments extensively start to switch over to containers I will pay attention.
When a carrier like Prime or KLLM or Stevens all whom use IM shipments extensively start to switch over to containers I will pay attention.
May we have your attention please..
https://www.kllm.com/transport-services/intermodal-transport/
610 reefer rail intermodal containers for KLLM!
Their will be some excuse that it want work.
greyhounds610 reefer rail intermodal containers for KLLM!
Russell
Both of you need to read the sides of the containers again they are a joint venture between FFE and KLLM combined those are less than 10 percent of the combined trailers of the 2 companies about 10 percent of their trades for the year combined.
Shadow the Cats ownerBoth of you need to read the sides of the containers again they are a joint venture between FFE and KLLM combined those are less than 10 percent of the combined trailers of the 2 companies about 10 percent of their trades for the year combined.
Oh, good grief. KLLM and FFE are the same company under common private ownership. The FFE brand has been retained for specialized operations, such as refrigerated LTL. The FFE over the road operations, which are what is rail compatible, were merged in to KLLM six years ago.
Those are KLLM refrigerated rail containers.
Under the eyes of the FMCSA they are still considered 2 different carriers with seperate DOT#'s insurance plans and by LAW different BOD's unless they are fully merged then they are considered the same carrier. Trust me Jerry Moyers does the same thing to protect his butt with his Central Refrigerated Knight and Swift carriers all are legally owned by him but have the same differences listed above and legally are considered 3 different carriers even though you will see a Swift Trailer pulling any of the 3 trailers going down the road. The same thing with the Crete pair Crete and Shaffer legally 2 different carriers. It's a holdover from the ICC days that still affects the OTR industry in terms of paperwork.
My bosses acid tanker fleet is considered a different carrier by the FMCSA when I file the IFTA paperwork I literally have to file 2 full sets of it one for the van and puenmatics and one for the acid boys. Yet they are maintained in the same shop as the rest of the fleet. Oh yeah the paperwork can be fun at times dealing with the FMCSA and DOT.
Yes, but...
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Shadow the Cats owner you will see a Swift Trailer pulling any of the 3 trailers going down the road.
you will see a Swift Trailer pulling any of the 3 trailers going down the road.
That must be quite a sight to behold! Sure saves on fuel.
charlie hebdo Shadow the Cats owner you will see a Swift Trailer pulling any of the 3 trailers going down the road. That must be quite a sight to behold! Sure saves on fuel.
THREE trailers? Does it at least have a caboose?
The third trailer in a triple does not always track very well and can swing all over the place during a lane change. They may be cheaper to operate but can be quite hazardous to others on the road.
She said, "any of the three trailers".
York1 John
I have yet to see a trailer, Swift or her little outfit's, pulling another trailer. Y'all needs a tractor, pal.
I guess I assumed to know what she meant.
charlie hebdoI have yet to see a trailer, Swift or her little outfit's, pulling another trailer. Y'all needs a tractor, pal.
I have seen triple 27 foot trailers being hauled in a number of locations. I have not seen double or triple 53 footers.
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CSSHEGEWISCHThe third trailer in a triple does not always track very well and can swing all over the place during a lane change.
I have noticed that even with double trailers, the rear one tends to fish-tail a little with slight steering corrections.
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A trucker friend of mine calls them wiggle wagons. Detests them.
Shadow the Cats owner Both of you need to read the sides of the containers again they are a joint venture between FFE and KLLM combined those are less than 10 percent of the combined trailers of the 2 companies about 10 percent of their trades for the year combined.
I'm not getting that vibe from reading the article and looking at both websites(KLLM's and FFE's) as there is not a single mention of intermodal on the FFE site, this entire intermodal offering is from KLLM, and if you want to read between the lines, then just look at the graphics of those two logos(they're practically identical, which regardless of rules indicates that the two companies are operated as "one"), which isn't that hard to imagine, it happens in numerous industries so nothing unusual. I'm not an expert and I'm not going to dispute your other statements, just pointing out the obvious.
Also notice that they specifically mention 3500 total trailers and 611 intermodal containers, further evidence that this is strictly being handled by KLLM(which makes it the equivalent of 20% of the trailer fleet of KLLM).
BaltACD charlie hebdo I have yet to see a trailer, Swift or her little outfit's, pulling another trailer. Y'all needs a tractor, pal. I have seen triple 27 foot trailers being hauled in a number of locations. I have not seen double or triple 53 footers.
charlie hebdo I have yet to see a trailer, Swift or her little outfit's, pulling another trailer. Y'all needs a tractor, pal.
I have seen a double 53 once, in the U.S.(wwill not speak of another other country where this is quite common though if interested you can look it up on YouTube).
As for whether or not refrigerated intermodal is a game changer all you need to do is look towards our northern neighbor's two railroads and see how many 53' refrigerated containers they own(they also have the advantage of a two tier weight limit for two different seasons and selling intermodal directly to customers as retail operations as opposed to wholesale only like the U.S. railroads do).
I see triple pups and double 53's on the Ohio Turnpike all the time.
GERALD L MCFARLANE JR I'm not getting that vibe from reading the article and looking at both websites(KLLM's and FFE's) as there is not a single mention of intermodal on the FFE site, this entire intermodal offering is from KLLM, and if you want to read between the lines, then just look at the graphics of those two logos(they're practically identical, which regardless of rules indicates that the two companies are operated as "one"), which isn't that hard to imagine, it happens in numerous industries so nothing unusual. I'm not an expert and I'm not going to dispute your other statements, just pointing out the obvious. Also notice that they specifically mention 3500 total trailers and 611 intermodal containers, further evidence that this is strictly being handled by KLLM(which makes it the equivalent of 20% of the trailer fleet of KLLM).
Interesting 'conversation'; particularly, for a long-retired OTR driver. The term 'Wiggle Wagons' was coined many years back to indicate a 'pair of short trailers {about 22 ft/ea. around that time}.
For over twenty years in states that have 'turnpikes [closely connected after short distances] ; all manner of multiple trailer combinations have been accepted for transit on those roads, and short connector routings. My first set of 'doubles' were a pair of 45's from Chicago to Boston (actually, started in Indiana, and 'broke' them at Oh/Pa for transit on NYT to 'break' Framingham, Ma. for a final dely to Boston))
Here in Kansas [Kansas T-pike] we see triple 'pup' sets, and combinations with a couple of 45/48(?) boxes; occasionally, mixed box sets, but not often.
I have yet to see any of the KLLM/FFE container boxes on any of the BNSF's trains; although their standard reefer and occasional dry boxes are frequent riders, in both directions through here. The posted linked ad for KLLM/FFE says they are capable of a loading of 44,500 lbs. I'd hate to be the one to have to 'scale' a box with that load for OTR travel.
samfp1943I have yet to see any of the KLLM/FFE container boxes on any of the BNSF's trains; although their standard reefer and occasional dry boxes are frequent riders, in both directions through here. The posted linked ad for KLLM/FFE says they are capable of a loading of 44,500 lbs. I'd hate to be the one to have to 'scale' a box with that load for OTR travel.
From my observations, one of the hallmarks of railroad intermodal, TOFC etc. - containers/trailers go to the rails when they know the vehicles can pass everything on the road except a scale.
Railroads don't price container/trailers on a weight basis only on a per box basis, for the most part.
BaltACD From my observations, one of the hallmarks of railroad intermodal, TOFC etc. - containers/trailers go to the rails when they know the vehicles can pass everything on the road except a scale.
Every day I commute to work on I-275, the main N-S bypass around Detroit. I average at least one 160,000# 11-axle gravel train per mile. Yesterday, I wasn't seeing any. Then I passed an old, closed rest area and ther MSP weightmasters had set up a portable inspection station...word travels fast by CB. I still saw some steelhaulers but their lading is more easily weighed at the shipper. That leads me to believe that double the national limit isn't enough for local trucking companies.
Shadow, what I noticed on both FFE's and KLLM's website is the alledged desire to hire drivers.
FFE's says: WE NEED DRIVERS NOW!
kllm's says: $5,000.00 signing bonus
KLLM and FFE are 2 of the better mega carrier options to work for however the driver's that I have talked to that left there have painted a less than pretty picture of them. The sign on bonus they're offering is about standard for larger carrier's anymore just to fill seats. US Express was offering teams 20 grand for each driver last year.
Just saw two of the containers on a train on a California cam and lots of KLLM and Frozen Food Express trailers.
csxnsJust saw two of the containers on a train on a California cam and lots of KLLM and Frozen Food Express trailers.
Made a trip to Armonk, NY and back today. Saw several FFE/KLLM containers on the move - behind KLLM tractors.
Is that by Anorak
rdamonIs that by Anorak
No! You actually have to pass through Connecticut to get there on I-684.
Paul of Covington CSSHEGEWISCH The third trailer in a triple does not always track very well and can swing all over the place during a lane change.
CSSHEGEWISCH The third trailer in a triple does not always track very well and can swing all over the place during a lane change.
I have towed several trailers - there must be 'adequate' tongue weight on the trailer hitch for the trailer to track straight.
I had one trailer with a very light tongue weight, I had to use a trailer sway bar to even think about keeping the trailer behind me.
I am guessing the same principles may apply to commercial trailers - have too much weight on the duals and not enough on the 5th wheel and the trailer will have a mind of its own.
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