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Question on the CN Derailment inside the Port Huron rail Tunnel

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Question on the CN Derailment inside the Port Huron rail Tunnel
Posted by CMStPnP on Thursday, July 11, 2019 10:07 AM

If you spill Sulphuric Acid in such a large quantity..........doesn't that impact the integrity of the concrete tunnel lining?     I would think there would be some corrosive action there to the concrete tunnel lining.    None of the articles about the derailment have mentioned that at all.   So that is why I asked.

Also what about the rail cars impacting the tunnel walls during the derailment itself, wouldn't that also remove chunks of concrete or result in cracks?

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Posted by Deggesty on Thursday, July 11, 2019 10:44 AM

It is well that the tunnel has a good lining; when concentrated sulfuric acid finds water, it gobbles water up and releases heat. 61 years ago, I was rinsing acid bottles and, for some disremembered  reason, ran only a little bit into one sulfuric acid bottle. When I lifted the bottle up to empty it, the bottom stayed in the sink, with a nice round edge--the heat of hydration broke the glass at the top of the liquid level.

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Posted by SD70Dude on Thursday, July 11, 2019 12:30 PM

I heard from an inside source that there was indeed a neutralization accident while a acid tank car was being dragged out of the tunnel, a sizeable quantity of acid spilled and ran into the ballast, which of course contains limestone.

Apparently it was quite the performance to watch, multiple side-boom CATs and a whole gang of workmen sprinting out of the tunnel, being chased by a very large cloud of smoke!

All the little explosions and fires outside the tunnel were from the gas tanks and batteries on crushed automobiles. 

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Posted by CMStPnP on Thursday, July 11, 2019 2:56 PM

SD70Dude
ballast, which of course contains limestone.

I was thinking of limestone being in pebbles contained within the cement itself....forgot about the ballast.

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