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Posted by MMLDelete on Friday, June 7, 2019 4:20 PM

But some do.

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Posted by BaltACD on Friday, June 7, 2019 3:58 PM

mudchicken
The existing Siaracha plant down near Redondo Junction has its own issues caused by regentrification.

Seem to recall the neighbors 'Didn't like it Hot'.

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Posted by mudchicken on Friday, June 7, 2019 11:51 AM

The existing Siaracha plant down near Redondo Junction has its own issues caused by regentrification.

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Posted by Shadow the Cats owner on Friday, June 7, 2019 8:49 AM

The biggest issue in California when it comes to their homeless issue is overregulations.  It literally can take 10 years to get a permit to build anything out there by the time the permitting process is done.  I know that JB Hunt wants to build a new terminal near the BNSF IM Hub in San Bern.  They started 4 years ago with the permitting process they think they can break ground in about 6-8 more years.  That's not a typo they are being asked for more crap than guy that wants to run a casino.  Get this we all love that Siaracha hot sauce right.  Well the company that makes it built a brand new plant the neighbors of that plant are trying to close it down for emitting to many air polluants aka the fumes from the peppers and it looks like they might win the case.  Yeah California the land of Fruit and Nuts and they are running the state and are in the trees also as produce.

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Posted by Gramp on Thursday, June 6, 2019 10:30 PM

One of my brothers just spent three weeks in San Jose training new employees for a store his company is opening there.  He said he found it so depressing there seeing all the homelessness and rag-tag living.  All he could think of was the lyrics of Dionne Warwick's song.  I guess it's the perils of years of one party rule - no checks and balances.

Do you know the way to San Jose?
I've been away so long. I may go wrong and lose my way
Do you know the way to San Jose? 
I'm going back to find some peace of mind in San Jose
L.A. is a great big freeway
Put a hundred down and buy a car
In a week, maybe two, they'll make you a star
Weeks turn into years. How quick they pass 
And all the stars that never were 
Are parking cars and pumping gas
You can really breathe in San Jose
They've got a lot of space. There'll be a place where I can stay
I was born and raised in San Jose
I'm going back to find some peace of mind in San Jose
Fame and fortune is a magnet
It can pull you far away from home
With a dream in your heart you're never alone
Dreams turn into dust and blow away
And there you are without a friend 
You
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Posted by Convicted One on Thursday, June 6, 2019 6:18 PM

Railroads are not always the best neighbors, either.  I've seen entire bundles of new ties that "got away" from the track gang and rolled down the embankment onto non railroad adjoining property that were just left there for years, not to mention modular circuit boards  from locomotive repair that evidently were changed out in the field, just cast off into the weeds.

Could be that San Jose has had it's fill of that kind of stewardship, and is about to try to do something about it.

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Posted by Convicted One on Thursday, June 6, 2019 6:07 PM

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I have nothing but sympathy for the homeless. I just don't get what this has to do with UP.

The mention of "grafitti, trash, and homeless encampments" were mentioned in only one paragraph of the linked-to article......while nightime trains, their noise, and NIMPY discontent  got the lions share of the story.

America does a really poor job addressing the homeless problem, but that is a political issue....and we dasnt debate politics here.

But what really appears to me to be going on in this news item, is that San Jose is angry with the railroad,  and is gathering up as many grievances as they can (it's called "posturing"),....so that when they finally get around to seeking redress, they will barter away some issues in favor of making gains on others.

I remember back in the bad old days, Southern Pacific used to send it's railgrinders up the East Bay main in the middle of the night, used to get all kinds of complaints from the locals.  I always thought it was cool....rail grinders put on quite a show at 2 o'clock in the morning

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Posted by rdamon on Thursday, June 6, 2019 6:00 PM
SJC also has strict curfew laws that result in a line of planes waiting to take off at 6:30AM.  If you are in the nearby hotels or houses you do not need an alarm clock.
 
It must be UP’s fault, not the ridiculous real estate prices that are forcing people to live in cars and campers in the streets around while they work at some of the biggest companies.
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Posted by mudchicken on Thursday, June 6, 2019 5:51 PM

(1) With California government, it's always somebody else's fault (hopefully with deep pockets, Big government run amok)... Because railroads are their own jurisdiction (UPRR Special Agents are licensed federal marshalls), the locals run them off their jurisdiction and onto UP controlled R/W where they don't have to deal with the problem.

(2) UP will run the homeless off, but the local government almost always sends them back.

(3) The local roadmaster/MTM probably has a huge cleanup bill, courtesy some of San Jose's "finer" citizens. 

(Thankfully California PUC and the FRA have the ultimate say in the end here. The city nitwits and oxymoron planners have failed to do the right thing, for decades. All the sabre-rattling is just digging them a deeper hole.)

-LA Roadmaster in a prior life.

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Question about UP and San Jose
Posted by Lithonia Operator on Thursday, June 6, 2019 5:33 PM

Just read this article: http://trn.trains.com/news/news-wire/2019/06/06-san-jose-calif-considers-taking-union-pacific-to-court-over-nighttime-trains-other-complaints

Not sure I get why UP is getting blamed for homeless-people encampments. Is it because people are squatting on UP-owned land, and the city thinks the railroad should get rid of them?

I have nothing but sympathy for the homeless. I just don't get what this has to do with UP.

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