Churchill Line Progress

[Flintlock76]

SD70Dude

 

 

BaltACD

SD70Dude

A freighter loaded with grain has finally left Churchill:

https://www.producer.com/2019/09/grain-leaves-churchill-for-first-time-in-four-years/

July though October is not much of a shipping season.

 

 

 

It gets longer every year, on account of global warming.

 

Well there you go.  "It's an ill wind that blows no-one any good."

[SD70Dude]

BaltACD

SD70Dude

A freighter loaded with grain has finally left Churchill:

https://www.producer.com/2019/09/grain-leaves-churchill-for-first-time-in-four-years/

July though October is not much of a shipping season.

It gets longer every year, on account of global warming.

[BaltACD]

SD70Dude

A freighter loaded with grain has finally left Churchill:

https://www.producer.com/2019/09/grain-leaves-churchill-for-first-time-in-four-years/

July though October is not much of a shipping season.

[SD70Dude]

A freighter loaded with grain has finally left Churchill:

https://www.producer.com/2019/09/grain-leaves-churchill-for-first-time-in-four-years/

[Miningman]

Hisorical information 

 

 

https://ia800908.us.archive.org/BookReader/BookReaderImages.php?zip=/0/items/the-saturday-evening-post-1950-02-11/the-saturday-evening-post-1950-02-11_jp2.zip&file=the-saturday-evening-post-1950-02-11_jp2/the-saturday-evening-post-1950-02-11_0026.jp2&scale=1&rotate=0

 

https://ia800908.us.archive.org/BookReader/BookReaderImages.php?zip=/0/items/the-saturday-evening-post-1950-02-11/the-saturday-evening-post-1950-02-11_jp2.zip&file=the-saturday-evening-post-1950-02-11_jp2/the-saturday-evening-post-1950-02-11_0025.jp2&scale=1&rotate=0

 

https://ia800908.us.archive.org/BookReader/BookReaderImages.php?zip=/0/items/the-saturday-evening-post-1950-02-11/the-saturday-evening-post-1950-02-11_jp2.zip&file=the-saturday-evening-post-1950-02-11_jp2/the-saturday-evening-post-1950-02-11_0119.jp2&scale=1&rotate=0

 

https://ia800908.us.archive.org/BookReader/BookReaderImages.php?zip=/0/items/the-saturday-evening-post-1950-02-11/the-saturday-evening-post-1950-02-11_jp2.zip&file=the-saturday-evening-post-1950-02-11_jp2/the-saturday-evening-post-1950-02-11_0121.jp2&scale=1&rotate=0

 

https://archive.org/details/the-saturday-evening-post-1950-02-11

 

[NDG]

 

Thank You Mr SD70Dude for the Data and the Operating Time Table! Shows in cold hard facts just how far it is to Churchill thru some of the barrenest land out there. Parts of the North were not known historically as The Barren Lands for nothing.

 

The climate is a factor, with Cold and Wind, then long-day summers to bring out the insects, and soften the Muskeg and Permafrost.

 

Would you have access to the southern Time Tables below Gillam and Below The Pas to illustrate just how ' far ' that is by rail, Please? 

 

Nothing else has detail as do Operating Timetables.

 

With cold, pull aparts and frost heaves wonder if Slow Orders abound?

 

FWIW From Internet.

 

Elevation Winnipeg 784 feet. The Pas 889 feet, Gillam 476 feet.

 

 

When the Unit Coal Trains and C-C 251 took over down here, there was a wreck a month as the rails, ties, surface and grade were not up to the sustained heavy units and 130-ton cars.

 

When first new, it was found the Cylindrical Covereds would Harmonic Roll at certain speeds on jointed rail and rock right off the track. One loaded for the Smelter at Tadanac derailed one axle and broke ties for eleven 11 miles in January, resulting in a panic tie program to replace every third tie or so just to get the line open,  a Ten 10 Miles per hour Slow Order followed with requisite Yellow and Green Flags and Lamps, adding to an already long trip as whole route under a long slow as track from steam era.

 

( Another Story.  East of town, in '69, another covered derailed one 1 axle dragging in truck frame, the wheel next to the rail peeling all the track bolt nuts off as CP Policy then was to have all bolts on one side, and nuts on the other, and the shorn joint bars flopped onto the ties by wheels moving joint up and down.

 

Another big panic, and, new policy to stagger bolts a la CNR forthwith and henceforth.

 

Railfans used to be able to determine the Railway by it's bolt pattern in the day.

 

CWR was just coming in, and jointed steel being Annulled on main tracks.

 

 

H-16-44s had a Low Water Alarm in Expansion Tank which would drop engine speed to idle as water got low.  ( C-Lines did NOT. )  On jointed steel these units would rock back and forth in harmony w joints at certain speeds, the Rerailer below creaking on it's hinge, and some times the Bell ringing, and the float in expansion tank would move up and down. Eventually the contacts would open and close, and the Diesel revolutions rise and fall until water fell so they stayed open.

 

( Some Units ' Hunted ', the revs rising and following continuously at certain throttle settings. )

 

The Brake Stands vented into the Cab.

 

The Cure for rocking back and forth, as long as water lasted, was speed up and try and get above the harmonic roll of the units and water settled down.

 

Ditto with Covereds if you saw them oscillating in train.

 

One trip we got an SD40 CP 5541, and it smoothed out all the crappy track like an Linoleum floor.

 

Lots of catching up had to be done, as the new big Propane tanks for the SI liked to tear up track and roll over, too.

 

Branch line track, but nicer climate.  Mosquitoes and the bugs the same.

 

Aeons ago, CWR and so much else, new.

 

Thank You, Again, Sir. 

[Miningman]

 

http://peel.library.ualberta.ca/search/?index=postcards&search=follow&pageNumber=1&subjectdisplay=%22Canada--Manitoba--The+Pas%22&sort=score

On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at approximately 0105 hours Kevin Alfred Anderson, loving son, grandson, brother, uncle, nephew, cousin, friend and co-worker to us all, died much too early, at 38 years of age. He was the only son of Donald Anderson and Debbie and George Leeper. 

Kevin was born on Monday, September 24, 1979 in The Pas, Manitoba at St. Anthony’s Hospital. He spent his early years on Keewatin Street with many hours being spent at his good friend’s home Richard, Mike and Chris Gordillo. At the age of 9 years, the family moved to Clearwater Lake and he planned to never leave the lake. 

Kevin started his career with the railroad at the age of 19. He comes from a long line of railroaders. He followed in the footsteps of his great-grandmother, one of the first women in Canada to work as a CN telegraph operator, and his grandfather and great uncle who also worked for CNR/VIA. Presently keeping with family tradition Kevin’s uncle Ken Hiatt and cousin Matt Hiatt, uncle Ralph Anderson and step-dad George Leeper have worked, or are currently working in the railroad industry. If you do the math, that is a total of 288 years so far! 

He started as a Carmen’s helper. He eventually worked as a Machinist and earned his Railway Machinist Ticket. He worked in the offices as a RMI Clerk and then became a Conductor. Kevin eventually followed his grandfather’s Alfred Hiatt’s steps and became an Engineer. He currently was working as a Conductor/Engineer. He spoke highly of his coworkers and was so grateful for coworkers that he could depend on and look up to due to their many years of experience. He was a dedicated employee and valued and respected the fact that he worked in a safety critical job. 

He loved spending time with family and friends whether it was boating, barbequing or sitting by the fire pit. He spent many hours on the lake with his brother-in-law BJ fishing and many hours by the fire with a good rum in hand. His most recent hobby was the stock market with his good buddy Paul. He enjoyed planning different trips he wanted to take including returning to the Philippines with his good friend Richard. He was also planning a trip to Las Vegas with his step- dad, George. Tragically this was his last week of work before starting his vacation. 

Family means everything to Kevin. He was okay knowing his family was okay. He was known to make many phone calls just to see how everyone was doing. If you were one of the lucky ones he frequently called, one would expect to be greeted on the phone as hello potato head or buffalo back or hammer head to name a few.

Kevin never had any children of his own but never felt like he missed out. He would say, “I don’t need children, Kerri’s (sister) children are like my own.” He was there for Tyler, Jessica and Brandon’s milestones as they grew up. He was there for all the good times and the more difficult times. We are all so grateful he was able to be with us for his niece Jessica’s wedding three weeks ago. 

He so loved his family and we so loved him. This family has been forever changed. We will miss his kind gentle spirit. We will miss his sense of humour and most of all we will miss the security of knowing our son, brother, uncle and friend is no longer here.

 
Kevin leaves behind to cherish his memory, his parents, father Donald Anderson, mother Debbie Leeper, step-father George Leeper; grandmother Lorrie Hiatt; sister Kerri Lajambe; brother-in-law BJ Lajambe; niece Jessica (Paul) Pillipow; nephews Tyler and Brandon (Regan) Lajambe; uncle Ken and aunty Patsy Hiatt of Winnipeg; cousin Kristen (Christopher) Werbeniuk and their children Lauklyn and Ridley of Gilliam; cousins Joel (Char) and Matthew (Leslie) Hiatt from Winnipeg.

Kevin was an uncle to his good friend Paul and Donna Salamandyk’s children; Seth, Riane, Anson and Lenah. Kevin is survived by many aunts, uncles and cousins on the Anderson side of the family. 
Kevin was predeceased by his grandparents Edith and George Anderson; grandmother Edna Leeper and grandfather Alfred Hiatt.

The family would like to thank the community for their out pouring of love and support. The many phone calls, visits, flowers and food is much appreciated. Thank You. 

http://www.mhs.mb.ca/docs/sites/ourladythepas.shtml

The funeral service was held Thursday, September 27, 2018, 11:00 am, at Our Lady of the Sacred Heart Cathedral, The Pas, with Rev. Dr. Rebecca Graham officiating. Thanksgiving for life was shared by Debbie Leeper (mom), Kristen Werbeniuk (cousin) and Ernie Foster (co-worker and teamster). Scripture readings were proclaimed by Jessica Pillipow (niece), BJ Lajambe (brother-in-law), Lorrie Hiatt (grandma).

A reception was held at the Royal Canadian Legion Hall, The Pas, Manitoba.

Honorary Pallbearers were Chris Rushton, BJ Lajambe, Tyler Lajambe, Brandon Lajambe,
Paul Salamandyk, Richard Gordillo, Mike Gordillo, Chris Gordillo, Rusty Krys, Paul Pillipow, Joel Hiatt, Matt Hiatt, Chris Werebeniuk, and all Kevin’s Railroad co-workers and Kevin’s Teamster Brothers.

In lieu of flowers, donations to the Precious Pet Kennels Spay and Neuter Fund, Box 539, The Pas, Manitoba, R9A 1K6, would be appreciated by Kevin’s family.

[Miningman]

Beth Macdonell, Reporter

@BethCTV 

Published Saturday, November 3, 2018 6:25PM CST 
Last Updated Saturday, November 3, 2018 7:36PM CST

The province is weighing in on the emergency response following a train derailment that left two men trapped for hours.

The Hudson Bay Railway train went off the tracks near Ponton, Man. on Sept. 15.

The train's 59-year-old engineer has life changing injuries. The 38-year-old conductor, Kevin Anderson died.

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PHOTOS

 

Images of the train derailment near Ponton, Man. (Source: Transportation Safety Board of Canada)

Anderson’s family has been questioning how long it took for help to arrive and why he did not survive, saying he was trapped for close to nine hours,

"Every level of effort was performed by all police, firefighters, paramedics and rescue crews throughout the duration of this incident. All emergency responders did their best under extremely difficult conditions. The province sends its condolences to the family of the deceased and wishes a full recovery to the surviving employee," said a provincial spokesperson in a statement sent to CTV News.

The province said emergency calls came in just after 6 p.m. before RCMP advised breathing apparatus was needed to safely access the victims.

It said police reported the smell of propane. With potential risk of explosion, emergency responders were delayed until it was deemed safe by the HAZMAT crew to begin extrication.

To get the men out, gas powered tools were used, and although there was no detectable propane leaking, tanks had ruptured leaking diesel fuel.

The statement said the men were also in an extremely difficult spot at the bottom of the wreckage, and while the 59-year old man was freed, due to the level of entrapment Anderson could not be.

Around 5:30 p.m., flying a helicopter, Brad and Jackie Gogal said they saw a hand waiving from the wreckage. Upon landing, they found the trapped men.

"I thought what a miracle that these two guys are alive and I just thought they're going to need some good, heavy equipment,” said Jackie Gogal.

RCMP said Anderson died close to 1 a.m..

The Gogals said they flew officers to the site and offered to bring the men pain medication or take other responders there, but were only given blankets, dropped off around 8: 20 p.m., before they left the site.

“I don't know if they weren't allowed or wanted to,” said Brad Gogal. “I have to wonder why they allowed us to stay there for three hours, but not allow their own people.”

The province said a standard operational review of the situation will take place.

Anderson's mom, Debbie Leeper hopes an inquest is called into his death.

"That's a huge window of time for something to happen that would have saved his life and eased the suffering," said Leeper.

The provincial spokesperson also said emergency response in remote locations is extremely difficult and creates special challenges, and that knowing the train had dangerous goods emergency responders followed protocol.

The spokesperson said rescuers worked in a pool of fuel with power running to the locomotives.

A hot zone around the wreckage was set up with only the most critically needed responders, or those with appropriate training and equipment.

10 rescuers including RCMP officers, paramedics and fire fighters worked in that hot zone.

The Medical Examiner’s office told CTV News it won't know if an inquest will be called until it finishes its process, likely sometime in 2019. 

 Full text of the province's statement:

 https://winnipeg.ctvnews.ca/province-responds-to-concerns-over-emergency-response-to-fatal-train-derailment-1.4162507

 

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[Miningman]

Good Lord! I'm sick

Waiiting for permission???!! 

Mine Rescue in Thompson could have handled this very quickly.

Idiots must be held accountable here.

 

 

[SD70Dude]

NDG

FYI.

Derailment, Manitoba.

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/train-derailment-thompson-manitoba-1.4825707

 

https://www.google.ca/maps/place/Ponton+Service+Station/@55.5598215,-98.6991656,6z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x52f5947ad80bb93d:0x84b714839ed697cc!8m2!3d54.672978!4d-99.1590034

 

https://www.google.ca/maps/place/Ponton+Service+Station/@54.6544633,-99.0624199,14731m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x52f5947ad80bb93d:0x84b714839ed697cc!8m2!3d54.672978!4d-99.1590034

 

https://globalnews.ca/news/4454844/weekend-train-derailment-south-of-thompson-manitoba-leaves-two-men-trapped/

Thank You.

New Snow on Mtns, Here.

The latest update:

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4882798

I still can't believe this.  What a travesty.  

In my mind those actions amount to criminal negligence causing death.

[tatans]

The first 2 locomotives, a caboose and a flatcar arrived in Churchill yesterday, even the Prime Minister was there.

[MidlandMike]

CatFoodFlambe

 

 

MidlandMike

 If anything, Canada is projected to make significant gains in overall agriculture production as the pace of warming continues.   So is Russia. 

 

 

BaltACD

With Climate Change and global warming, the shipping season at Churchill should be lengthened over the historic norms.  There is money to be made from global warming and people out there willing to bet on it.

 

 

 

 

What happens if that global climate change dries up the grain crop?

 

 

 

 

 

Still hard to say if the climate may dry up.  It's more likely that Churchill will be under seawater if the climate warms.

[SD70Dude]

NDG

I know little about the maximum weights allowed on the Railway re the soft Subgrade and Muskeg,  may not be just the rail weights and bridges..

 

These cars, were constructed  as an answer.

 

http://tracksidetreasure.blogspot.com/2018/03/cn-398000-articulated-grain-car.html

I heard somewhere that the grain car, CN 398000, was scrapped a few years ago.  But now I can't find that source. 

I actually got to switch the potash car, CN 399000, not long after I hired on.  I last saw it on a train heading to Vancouver in spring 2013, but have not seen it since.  Unfortunately, some quick Googling has revealed that my sighting was the last time anyone has reported seeing either of the articulated cars. 

Both were still in service in 2012:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynIcCqVzhxY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oifv7gr018w

[SD70Dude]

NDG

Churchill.

 

Mr SD70Dude would know.

 

Those locomotives seem large for a line such as the Churchill Route??

 

The whole railway might be much safer once everything freezes SOLID??

As CN has not owned the trackage north of The Pas, MB for over 20 years I can't provide any recent inside information, but the line received much upgrading in the 1990s to handle covered hoppers.  The grain boxcars also disappeared around that time. 

Before those upgrades locomotives the size and weight of SD50's would not have been allowed north of Gillam, MB:

http://www.cwrailway.ca/cnrha.ca/Timetables/Prairie/Assiniboine/Herchmer%20all.pdf

Those restrictions prohibited GP38, GP40, SD40, FP9/F9B, FPA-4/FPB-4, passenger RS-18, C424 and large 6-axle MLW units.

Omnitrax made a big deal about 8 or 10 years ago of assigning the SD50's to the HBRY to replace old second hand (ex-CN?) MLW units, as a sign of their commitment to northern Manitoba.  There was a brief article in Trains Magazine at the time. 

No idea what condition the Herchmer Sub is in today, or what it is being rehabbed to, but any track structure capable of handling 263,000 lb grain cars (let alone 286k) should be able to handle high-horsepower 6-axle locomotives as well.

I can say that riding SD40's and SD60's on 85 lb jointed rail is quite an experience...

[Miningman]

Linn Tractors would leave in fleets from Flin Flon and The Pas hauling a land train behind them and also used for logging. Finally the railroad was built.

Also famous show dogs!!!

[Miningman]

So much history around The Pas, Flin Flon and up to Churchill.

I arrived at St. Anthony's hospital once, quite unconscious, in an Ambulance. Initially rushed to the Flin Flon hospital, they soon decided that The Pas knew how to handle my condition. Don't remember much even though it was in 2013. Ticker failure. Flash Pulmonary Edema. St. Anthony's saved my sorry self. 

They have one of these at the Museum in Flin Flon ( the old CNR station) ...the Linn Tractor. This is how the North up from Winnipeg to Churchill was built. Hard wooden bench seat, open sides. Can you imagine in -40. These guys were beyond tough. 

[NDG]

 

OT?

 

Wreck, Manitoba. 1943.

 

http://images.ourontario.ca/Schreiber/2303534/image/917058

 

Quote.

 

Posted by Christian, 27 August 2013 at 3:59

 

This is a photo of the July 17, 1943 train crash at Cranberry Portage, Manitoba. It's on the CNR's Flin Flon line between The Pas and Flin Flon, Manitoba. Seven people were killed.

 

I recently did a blog post about it and hyperlink to the photo. An image very similar to this appears on the front page of the following day's Winnipeg Tribune.

 

http://westenddumplings.blogspot.ca/2013/08/manitobas-worst-train-disasters_9748.html

 

End Quote.

 

Note Cupola Caboose to left.  These are side opening cars for Lidgerwood, left.

 

Thank You.

[NDG]

 

HBRy.

 

The following may be of interest?

 

http://www.zambonista.com/hbr/

 

 

The Telegraph line is suspended from tripods as ground is too soft.

 

http://www.zambonista.com/hbr/hbr_8.gif

 

Bucking snow w/steam.

 

http://www.zambonista.com/hbr/hbr_1.gif

 

It appears each locomotive has a Water Car behind tender. A Wood cistern on a flat cat.

 

Example.  Water car with wood tank on flat car behind tender.

 

https://www.gov.mb.ca/chc/hrb/plaques/images/plaq0036.jpg

 

FWIW. ' Watering ' locomotives would take HOURS, esp if tank small and pump output low.

 

In winter water supplies would be FROZEN!!, A big Problem! A Desert made of ICE!

 

 

Lidgerwood.

 

Lidgerwood ' Plow ' is pulled thru side dump gons by cable on winch on Lidgerwood coupled next to locomotive ( for steam ) The car sides hinge out from top as spoil pushed outward by plow. The plow blade can be angled left or right depending where fill required.

 

http://www.zambonista.com/hbr/wktrain1.jpg

 

The plow is crossing over between cars, metal plates laid across the gap.

 

 

Lidgerwood Winch. Locomotive beyond.

 

http://www.zambonista.com/hbr/winch1.jpg

 

http://www.zambonista.com/hbr/mclean1.jpg

 

 

From this site. 

 

http://www.zambonista.com/hbr/sherrit.htm

 

Thank You.

[NDG]

Miningman

I was thinking the same thing NDG, that the Dude knows or could easily find out. 

Thought all the VIA equipment went out by boat but apparently not. Even if it was in use for track crews you would think it would be not VIA stainless Budd but MOW equipment. Probably left there still. 

Im heading to Thompson Manitoba first week of December and I'm certain I can garner more info from the locals on all what's happened. 

 

 

Weight.

 

 

Thank You, Sir, for the Roster. Good looking Units and Caboose.

 

I know little about the maximum weights allowed on the Railway re the soft Subgrade and Muskeg,  may not be just the rail weights and bridges..

 

These cars, were constructed  as an answer.

 

http://tracksidetreasure.blogspot.com/2018/03/cn-398000-articulated-grain-car.html

 

And remember this Dialogue.

 

 http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/195731.aspx

 

Canadian National Employee Time Table from the past would show locomotives allowed, Diesel and Steam, and the usual restrictions about Rolling Stock and Auxiliary Cranes, Pile Drivers and so on. 

 

Thank You!

[Miningman]

I was thinking the same thing NDG, that the Dude knows or could easily find out. 

Thought all the VIA equipment went out by boat but apparently not. Even if it was in use for track crews you would think it would be not VIA stainless Budd but MOW equipment. Probably left there still. 

Im heading to Thompson Manitoba first week of December and I'm certain I can garner more info from the locals on all what's happened. 

Maybe those units are part of this group. Can't quite make out the numberboards.

5000	EMD	SD50	847049-23	847049-23	12/1985	ex HBRY 5010; ex NREX 5082; ex UP 5082; nee CNW 7022
5001	EMD	SD50	847049-35	847049-35	12/1985	ex NREX 5094; ex UP 5094; nee CNW 7034			to IR/HBRY 5001
5002	EMD	SD50	847049-15	847049-15	12/1985	ex NREX 5074; ex UP 5074; nee CNW 7012			to NKCR/HBRY 5002; to GWR/HBRY 5002
5003	EMD	SD50	847080-16	847080-16	2/1986	ex NREX 5468; ex NS/PRR 5468; nee CR 6820			to NKCR/HBRY 5003; to NRE
5004	EMD	SD50
5005	EMD	SD50	847008-3	847008-3	11/1984	ex UP 9835; ex UP 5002; nee MP 5002
5006	EMD	SD50	847008-40	847008-40	12/1984	ex UP 9840; ex UP 5039; nee MP 5039			to IR/HBRY 5006
5007	EMD	SD50	847008-56	847008-56	12/1984	ex NREX 9844; ex UP 9844; ex UP 5055; nee MP 5055
5008	EMD	SD50	847049-19	847049-19	12/1985	ex NREX 5078; ex UP 5078; nee CNW 7018			to IR/HBRY 5008
5009	EMD	SD50	847049-28	847049-28	12/1985	ex NREX 5087; ex UP 5087; nee CNW 7027

 

[NDG]

 

Churchill.

 

Mr SD70Dude would know.

 

Those locomotives seem large for a line such as the Churchill Route??

 

The whole railway might be much safer once everything freezes SOLID??

 

Could be wrong.

 

Kills all the insect life, too!

 

VIA equipments still there in video @ time 01:47.

 

Thank You, Sirs, Everywhere!!

[blue streak 1]

Overmod

 

 

NDG

Lovely.

 

 

YES!!!

And they did it, if I understand the story, in just about a month.  Long enough before the winter to get a good amount of provisions in. 

 

Can the people of Churchill hope that provisions were staged at the tempoary end of track that can be immediately put together onto a train ?  Anyone know what the load limit on the route is for each freight car ?

[Miningman]

The operating line has been there longer than you have been around and the Native settlements and peoples longer yet. 

[Ulrich]

Would have been cheaper to move Churchill 500 miles south..  

[Overmod]

NDG

Lovely.

YES!!!

And they did it, if I understand the story, in just about a month.  Long enough before the winter to get a good amount of provisions in. 

[Ulrich]

Good news for the folks in Churchill for sure... Hopefully they've got a plan for sustaining the line.. 

[NDG]

 

FYI.,

 

First Train into Churchill. 

 

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/video?playlistId=1.4159214

 

Lovely.

 

Thank You!!

[Miningman]

[CatFoodFlambe]

MidlandMike

 If anything, Canada is projected to make significant gains in overall agriculture production as the pace of warming continues.   So is Russia. 

 

 

BaltACD

With Climate Change and global warming, the shipping season at Churchill should be lengthened over the historic norms.  There is money to be made from global warming and people out there willing to bet on it.

 

 

 

 

What happens if that global climate change dries up the grain crop?