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Posted by SD70Dude on Wednesday, July 18, 2018 11:46 PM

This one must have been near the head end. 

Additional factors to consider include the Conductor's physical fitness and pre-planning, is he already packing a spare hose and wrench?

I got tired long ago of explaining to Trainmasters that there is no such thing as a "5-minute move".

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Posted by BaltACD on Wednesday, July 18, 2018 11:13 PM

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1 hour to fix a busted air hose sounds about right to me. 

About a hour per mile of train length is about right.  Remember any inspection must originate from the head end to the rear end and then back to the head end.  So a one mile long train is a two mile stroll for the Conductor.  A two mile long train is a four mile walk for the Conductor. 

When you hear 4 MPH being 'walking speed' it is - on a hard surface without many slip, trip and fall obsticals.  Railroad rights of way are not hard surface walkways and have many slip, trip and fall situations to protect against.

 

Yep, will have the train moving in 5 minutes. [/sarcasm]

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Posted by SD70Dude on Wednesday, July 18, 2018 10:55 PM

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A railroad is a railroad, and even when the EJ&E was independent there was nothing stopping them from running numerous long trains every day. 

But it didn't prior to CN.  Once CN took over, things changed.  Some communities did force CN to make some changes as a condition of the takeover, as I recall.

Yes, operations changed.  But the rules that would have allowed them to run long trains did not, which was why CN did not have to jump over the moon to close the EJ&E deal. 

Obviously there are also rules governing how long trains may block crossings.  I don't know the American regulations, but in Canada a through train is not allowed to stop on a crossing for more than 5 minutes before starting a move to clear said crossing.  Of course, if one interprets our rules directly then there is no time limit as long as the train is moving.  

We are also supposed to clear the crossing as quickly as possible when emergency vehicles require passage.  But a problem such as a broken air hose makes it physically impossible to move the train until it is repaired.  And if a large traffic jam develops or the train is strung out around a curve the emergency vehicles may not be visible to the train crew.

1 hour to fix a busted air hose sounds about right to me. 

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Wednesday, July 18, 2018 10:28 PM

SD70Dude
A railroad is a railroad, and even when the EJ&E was independent there was nothing stopping them from running numerous long trains every day. 

But it didn't prior to CN.  Once CN took over, things changed.  Some communities did force CN to make some changes as a condition of the takeover, as I recall.

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Posted by SD70Dude on Wednesday, July 18, 2018 9:55 PM

A perfect storm! 

Great timing too, literally the day after the town lost their appeal of a lawsuit trying to get CN to pay more towards grade separations. 

Agree that they knew this could happen, and have not done enough to prevent it.  A railroad is a railroad, and even when the EJ&E was independent there was nothing stopping them from running numerous long trains every day. 

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Posted by BaltACD on Wednesday, July 18, 2018 8:47 PM

They (Barrington) have had 10 years to fund and build their solution - additionally within the 10 years they SHOULD have developed a game plan for all crossings being blocked at the same time - THEY KNOW IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN - THEY KNOW IT HAS HAPPENED - THEY KNOW IT WILL CONTINUE TO HAPPEN.

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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, July 18, 2018 7:57 PM

Well, there's maybe a little bit of NIMBY there, but I get their concern.  

Apparently they've been working toward a solution, reference the funding they've already secured.  Hopefully work will begin on that sooner rather than later.

As was noted in the article, traffic is far different than it had been pre-CN.  However, the stalled train was mostly the luck of the draw.

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Barrington incident
Posted by wilmette2210 on Wednesday, July 18, 2018 6:28 PM

A stalled train happened in Barrington and delayed the fire deparment https://www.dailyherald.com/news/20180716/barringtons-perfect-storm-stalled-train-on-ejampe-blocks-ambulances Thoughts? Is Barrington beeing NIMBY?  Thanks

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