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Short National Geographic DOc on the Mauritanian Railway

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Short National Geographic DOc on the Mauritanian Railway
Posted by DavidH66 on Tuesday, July 17, 2018 5:22 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEo-ykjmHgg

This video was released 6 days ago as of the 17th. Anyone else seen it? Railroads like this are always fascinating.

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, July 17, 2018 5:52 PM

DavidH66
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEo-ykjmHgg

This video was released 6 days ago as of the 17th. Anyone else seen it? Railroads like this are always fascinating.

Would be interesting to understand how the track is maintained in such an location.  

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Posted by Backshop on Tuesday, July 17, 2018 7:23 PM

At least they don't have to do any weedspraying...

Did anyone see C&OFP riding any of the cars? Smile

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, July 17, 2018 8:44 PM

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Did anyone see C&OFP riding any of the cars?

Yeah - I think he was taking a bunch of fish, too...

I just spent a little while following the route - there is a lot of tangent there.  I'd have to imagine that it's notch 8 and kick back for most of the trip.

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Posted by greyhounds on Tuesday, July 17, 2018 9:10 PM

First of all, I absolutely despise National Geographic.  I have a good and valid reason for doing so, but it has nothing to do with railroads.

The main question the video raises in my mind is why no one, in all these years, has developed a better, more efficient, system for moving the fish inland?  Having each man carry a cooler/box of fish in a ore gon is wasteful, inefficient, and frankly, nutty.  It takes days of his time when he could be doing something more productive, such as catching more fish.  

In North America, and elsewhere, commercial systems developed to make things more efficient.  And they developed early on.  Merchants (wholesalers) bought the fish at the dock.  Express companies developed to efficiently move the products (fish) inland from the ports.  Other merchants (retailers) sold the fish to the people who needed the fish.  So why hasn't this happened in Africa?  

Why is this guy still relegated to hopping an ore train with his one box of fish?  It makes no sense.   

 

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Posted by Deggesty on Tuesday, July 17, 2018 9:21 PM

From the Wikipedia article on the railroad, the road has some passenger cars, which sometimes are run on the train. Apparently, there is not enough passenger traffic to warrant regular operation of them. Still, this is highly inefficient transportation of food, especially fresh food.

I wonder how long the trip is.

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, July 17, 2018 9:27 PM

Remember the hallmark of 3rd World countries - fight efficency except as it puts hard currency into the pockets of the leaders.  Mere human residents of the country be damned - keep them down and indegent with a subsistance level existance.

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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, July 18, 2018 7:18 AM

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Remember the hallmark of 3rd World countries - fight efficency except as it puts hard currency into the pockets of the leaders.  Mere human residents of the country be damned - keep them down and indegent with a subsistance level existance.

Indeed - the simple addition of a reefer to the consist would allow the fish (and other products) to move more efficiently.

But this introduces the possibility of creating a middleman - someone to buy the fish from the fishermen at the port and handle getting it to the final destination - where perhaps another vendor handles the sale.

So you have three people/entities doing what is currently done by one.  Safe bet the fisherman won't see all of that $50 he now nets for the trip.  And it's also a safe bet that someone will eventually control the trade, to their own benefit, as Balt suggests.

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Posted by SD70Dude on Wednesday, July 18, 2018 10:37 PM

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Indeed - the simple addition of a reefer to the consist would allow the fish (and other products) to move more efficiently.

Just such an operation, though not in Africa:

http://www.railpictures.ca/?attachment_id=27403

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Posted by SD70Dude on Wednesday, July 18, 2018 11:11 PM

greyhounds

First of all, I absolutely despise National Geographic.  I have a good and valid reason for doing so, but it has nothing to do with railroads.

I have never been a big fan of their ethics.

But I highly recommend this photo essay from the April 1923 issue:

http://www.catskillarchive.com/rrextra/ngstory.Html

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Posted by DavidH66 on Wednesday, July 18, 2018 11:44 PM

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 Indeed - the simple addition of a reefer to the consist would allow the fish (and other products) to move more efficiently.

The railroads main purpose is to carry Iron Ore and it's path is from a Mining facilty in the intereor to a port city on the Atlantic. Seems more the fisherman happen to use the train more than the train actively encourages them.

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Posted by runnerdude48 on Thursday, July 19, 2018 3:25 PM

Yes, but the video said that they sometimes add passenger cars to the train.  When they do, does the diner serve hot meal items?  I'm not riding if they don't.

Another note.  It says that the temperatures sometimes reach 40 degrees C.  That is equivalent to about 110 degrees F.  Yet the trains seem to move along at a better speed than Amtrak does when the temps are in the 90s in the U.S.

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Posted by Backshop on Thursday, July 19, 2018 4:11 PM

In the Sahara, all meals are "hot".

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Thursday, July 19, 2018 9:44 PM

runnerdude48

Another note.  It says that the temperatures sometimes reach 40 degrees C.  That is equivalent to about 110 degrees F.  

 

 
  NO
C           =               F
30                         86
35                         95
40                        104
45                        113
50                        122
55                        131
 
Note 55C about highest temp any commercial aircraft and engines is certified to. Older aircraft max to 50C  or 45C . 

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