M&StL Cedar Lake Yard

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M&StL Cedar Lake Yard
Posted by CNW_4009 on Wednesday, June 06, 2018 8:24 PM

     Where was the M&StL Cedar Lake Yard? Can you give me a map of it?

 

                 Thank you.

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Posted by mudchicken on Thursday, June 07, 2018 1:59 PM

CNW_4009

     Where was the M&StL Cedar Lake Yard? Can you give me a map of it?

 

                 Thank you.

 

SW of Downtown Minneapolis - sections 28 &29 T117N R24W 4thPM, base of Kenwood hill with GN running along the NW side of the yard. ...now caught in a local trails squabble (Cedar Lake Trail @ Kenilworth Trail), the railroad and yard are long gone. (South of I-394 & Penn), MP-14  circa 1871-1984

* at the gore area between the BNSF Wayzata sub and the CP Bass Lake spur at Cedar Lake Junction. Had a roundhouse and large shop complex on the south side...UP/CNW/M&StL never had a large yard in town, just a string of smaller sattelite yards scattered everywhere.

Either look at an old USGS 7.5 minute quad or get a copy of the val map ($125-$200) from National Archives-2 RG134 or UPRR's map librarian in Omaha.

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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Thursday, June 07, 2018 8:33 PM

CNW_4009, I hope you realize you just got a couple thousand dollars' worth of info for free. 

mudchicken, you're very generous.  Be careful about that . . . Whistling

- PDN. 

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Posted by dpeltier on Thursday, June 07, 2018 10:11 PM

Looking at at Google Earth or Google Maps with the aerial background turned on:

Start at the intersection of I-94 and I-394 just west of downtown Minneapolis. Go west on I-394 until it crosses over a set of railroad tracks; this is the BNSF (GN) Wayzata Sub. Just west of I-394 you will see a junction where a track breaks away from the Wayzata Sub and goes off to the southwest; this line is owned by the Hennepin County Regional Rail Authority, operated by Twin Cities & Western (TCW), approximately in line with the M&StL main line, and the most controversial segment of the proposed Southwest Light Rail Transit alignment.

Right near the junction, southeast of the TCW track, is a grassy field with some bike trails going through it. It backs up against hill, on top of which sit some houses and then the Kenwood Parkway.  This grassy area was the location of the M&StL Cedar Lake Yard.

If you trace back east across I-394, you see a huge parcel of land (split in half by the new Van White Memorial Blvd) belonging to the Minneapolis department of public works for, among other things, salt and sand storage. The GN had a yard here named Lyndale.

The M&StL ran along the south edge of that GN yard. I believe they had a small yard there as well, also called Lyndale. There is a yard office or depot building still standing there just east of I-94 along the Cedar Lake Trail - in the aerial it is the building just to the west of the tall cell tower.

Hope this helps.

Dan

 

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Posted by dpeltier on Thursday, June 07, 2018 10:19 PM

mudchicken

 

Either look at an old USGS 7.5 minute quad or get a copy of the val map ($125-$200) from National Archives-2 RG134 or UPRR's map librarian in Omaha.
 

 

Depending on how much detail you need, Don Hofsommer's book _Minneapolis and the Age of Railways_  has an undated map showing locations (but not track layouts) of all yards in and around downtown Minneapolis on the inside back cover.

Dan

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Posted by CNW_4009 on Friday, June 08, 2018 12:25 PM
Thank you but what happened to the GN line that ran south of Cedar lake(I am talking about the actual lake not the yard)?
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Posted by Euclid on Friday, June 08, 2018 4:00 PM

CNW_4009
Thank you but what happened to the GN line that ran south of Cedar lake(I am talking about the actual lake not the yard)?
 

That was the original route of what later became the G.N. line on the north side of Cedar Lake (the lake) that is today's BNSF line to Wayzata and westward to Willmar, etc.  That original route ran southwesterly alongside of the M&StL to about Kenwood, and then it ran west along the south side of Cedar Lake (the lake).  I if I recall correctly, the road along the south side of the lake is called Sunset Blvd.  That was the orginal pre-Great Northern route.  I guess that must have been the St. Paul, Minneapolis, & Manitoba R.R.  That old route roadbed can be found here and there all though the suburbs and undeveloped land between Kenwood and Wayzata.  It is quite evident in that Big Willow Park just east of the Minnetonka Mills location, on the south side of the current BNSF mainline there.

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Posted by CandOforprogress2 on Saturday, June 09, 2018 11:16 AM

Try Sanborn Maps-http://libguides.mnhs.org/maps/fi

Most citys have a collection of these map that show buildings and Industry and railroads in there planning and enginnering departments

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Posted by CNW_4009 on Sunday, June 10, 2018 11:58 AM
Thank you.

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