BaltACD What are the dates of the Form 19 orders and the Clearance Form A's.
What are the dates of the Form 19 orders and the Clearance Form A's.
Thought I mentioned that all of the forms were PC. Something hung and I lost that version of the post.
All are dated April 1, 1970.
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There's an Adams in Indiana that is on the Big Four line northeast of Greensburg, toward Shelbyville. No junction or crossing, but anyplace that was capable of issuing a train order would also issue a clearance to accompany it.Your assumption about Sugar Street in Lima is correct. However, to get to Dunkirk would require use of the former PRR, not NYC (definitely a double-track route). Is it possible that the appointment of Mr. Shaw took place post-PC? PRR would be more likely to name a division Fort Wayne than NYC would have been!If the two clearances can be shown to be on the same line, there was a junction named Adams on that line, closer to Fort Wayne than to Lima. Van Wert is between Fort Wayne and Lima, again on the old PRR main line.
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Today at a local train show (Utica) I picked up an employee timetable for NYC (Number 22) effective November 4, 1967.
It's for this area, which is why I got it (and the price was right - $5.00)
Inside the ETT were two Form 19's and two Clearance Form A's. At first, before careful study, I assumed that they were for this area as well. Nope.
One Form 19 noted that one "R. A. Shaw" was the new superintedent of the Fort Wayne Division.
The other Form 19 gave Extra 3123 East superiority over opposing trains on the number two track from Sugar Street to Dunkirk.
A little map research shows that Sugar Street was probably a tower at a diamond (with DT&I) in Lima, OH. Dunkirk is east of Lima.
The clearance forms raise a question, however. One was issued at Sugar Street.
The other Form A was issued an hour earlier at "Adams." The only Adams on the NYC in Indiana is a good distance south, I'm not finding an Adams in Ohio.
Tracing the line west shows a current diamond at Van Wert, making me wonder if that was the location of a tower named "Adams." I'm guessing it might be an hour by rail between Van Wert and Lima.
Anybody got any more information than I do?
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