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Posted by Brian Schmidt on Friday, September 22, 2017 9:43 AM

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. — Renovations to CSX Transportation's headquarters can move forward now that city of Jacksonville officials have approved building permits affecting more than 20,000 square feet of office space. The Jacksonville Daily Recor...

http://trn.trains.com/news/news-wire/2017/09/21-csx-headquarters-permits

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Posted by BaltACD on Friday, September 22, 2017 9:55 AM

Sounds like plans to stick it to the pee on's and feather EHH's nest.

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Posted by BaltACD on Friday, September 22, 2017 6:24 PM

For those who don't know - The coffee shop and cafe on the 1st & 2nd floor that is being 'demolished' was for employees in the GOB that weren't privy to eating in the Executive Dinning Room on the 15th floor.

When I was in Jax for a training class in the 1980's, the class was 'treated' one afternoon with lunch in the Executive Dinning Room.  Service worthy of Office Cars that I had the opportunity eat on several times.  Not for the masses.

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Posted by wanswheel on Sunday, September 24, 2017 2:30 PM

 

Excerpt from Wilmington Star News, Dec. 11, 2005

 

http://www.starnewsonline.com/news/20051211/end-of-the-line

 

Dec. 15, 1955: They call it “Black Thursday.”

 

On that date, the board of directors of the Atlantic Coast Line announced that after 115 years, the railroad’s headquarters would be moved out of Wilmington. The Port City’s No. 1 employer would move hundreds of jobs, and local families, somewhere else…

 

Five years later, in a massive rail odyssey, the Coast Line shipped 2 million pounds of files and office equipment, along with 3 million pounds of workers’ household goods, south to its new headquarters in Jacksonville, Fla…

 

The headquarters might have moved sooner, except for the massive figure of Champion McDowell Davis (1879-1975), a key executive with the Coast Line and, beginning in 1942, its president. “Champ,” who grew up in Wilmington, loved his hometown and usually arranged to have his personal train park in the city for the weekends…

 

The ACL would not officially choose Jacksonville as its new headquarters until March 1956…

 

On Oct. 16, 1958, though, ground was officially broken for a 15-story headquarters building in Jacksonville. Construction was completed early in 1960. It was time to move…

 

The actual move began on July 5, 1960, with the offices of the chief engineer. Thomas W. Rice, who had succeeded Davis as company president, moved his offices on Aug. 1.

 

 

 

https://www.floridamemory.com/items/show/39182

 

 

https://www.floridamemory.com/items/show/39156

 

 

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Posted by Norm48327 on Sunday, September 24, 2017 3:06 PM

Balt,

I have long questioned why management thought centralization of dispatching was a 'cost saving measure'. Sure, things can be run from Jacksonville, Fort Worth or Omaha in most circumstances but what happens if power and communication line to those centers goes down? It is certain they have some kind of backup but is it adequate to run the whole system? I'm doubtful.

As I understand it your dispatching center had specific needs to keep things moving in your area; things a dispatcher in J'ville might not have personal knowledge of or a handle on while those in Baltimore knew the ins and outs.

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Posted by n012944 on Sunday, September 24, 2017 6:31 PM

Norm48327

 

As I understand it your dispatching center had specific needs to keep things moving in your area; things a dispatcher in J'ville might not have personal knowledge of or a handle on while those in Baltimore knew the ins and outs.

 

You understand incorrectly.  I can dispatch the B&OCT from anywhere.  It doesn't matter if I am 2 miles from the railroad or 2000.

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Posted by BaltACD on Monday, September 25, 2017 6:47 AM

Norm48327
Balt,

I have long questioned why management thought centralization of dispatching was a 'cost saving measure'. Sure, things can be run from Jacksonville, Fort Worth or Omaha in most circumstances but what happens if power and communication line to those centers goes down? It is certain they have some kind of backup but is it adequate to run the whole system? I'm doubtful.

As I understand it your dispatching center had specific needs to keep things moving in your area; things a dispatcher in J'ville might not have personal knowledge of or a handle on while those in Baltimore knew the ins and outs.

There is no area of the country, in fact no area of the world, that isn't subject to some form of natural disaster. 

Part of the 'qualification' procedure in learning to work as a dispatcher is to learn the 'in's and out's' of specific territories and the personalities of the employees that work that territory (both operating, MofW, and management).  That learning process takes place no matter where the office is located.

The CADS computer power is backed up in multiple locations and can be accessed through multiple means from on or 'off the property' if and when necessary.

However, this thread is about improvement to the Exec. dining room vs. elimination of the employee dining space.

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Posted by samfp1943 on Monday, September 25, 2017 8:57 AM

BaltACD

For those who don't know - The coffee shop and cafe on the 1st & 2nd floor that is being 'demolished' was for employees in the GOB that weren't privy to eating in the Executive Dinning Room on the 15th floor.

When I was in Jax for a training class in the 1980's, the class was 'treated' one afternoon with lunch in the Executive Dinning Room.  Service worthy of Office Cars that I had the opportunity eat on several times.  Not for the masses.

 

     Based on recent happenings (and' potentials' for more of the same to occur in Jax(?. )    Might not any changes to their downtown office structure be made to move essential services to something above the third floor, above the next high water mark? The lower levels could become some sort of parking garage?   Whistling

 

 


 

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Posted by wanswheel on Monday, September 25, 2017 11:13 AM
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Posted by BaltACD on Monday, September 25, 2017 10:19 PM

samfp1943
 
BaltACD

For those who don't know - The coffee shop and cafe on the 1st & 2nd floor that is being 'demolished' was for employees in the GOB that weren't privy to eating in the Executive Dinning Room on the 15th floor.

When I was in Jax for a training class in the 1980's, the class was 'treated' one afternoon with lunch in the Executive Dinning Room.  Service worthy of Office Cars that I had the opportunity eat on several times.  Not for the masses. 

     Based on recent happenings (and' potentials' for more of the same to occur in Jax(?. )    Might not any changes to their downtown office structure be made to move essential services to something above the third floor, above the next high water mark? The lower levels could become some sort of parking garage?   Whistling

Essential services are already on the 3rd floor and above.  I don't believe the structure of the building would permit a parking type use, but I am not a construction engineer.  I have only used the facilities as a employee.

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Posted by Miningman on Monday, September 25, 2017 11:28 PM

Those '59 pictures are fabulous....I can almost see Hyman Roth and Johnny Ola. 

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Tuesday, September 26, 2017 7:06 AM

n012944
 
Norm48327

 

As I understand it your dispatching center had specific needs to keep things moving in your area; things a dispatcher in J'ville might not have personal knowledge of or a handle on while those in Baltimore knew the ins and outs.

 

 

 

You understand incorrectly.  I can dispatch the B&OCT from anywhere.  It doesn't matter if I am 2 miles from the railroad or 2000.

 

Or, if you think about, from India.

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Posted by n012944 on Tuesday, September 26, 2017 3:08 PM

Murphy Siding

 

 
n012944
 
Norm48327

 

As I understand it your dispatching center had specific needs to keep things moving in your area; things a dispatcher in J'ville might not have personal knowledge of or a handle on while those in Baltimore knew the ins and outs.

 

 

 

You understand incorrectly.  I can dispatch the B&OCT from anywhere.  It doesn't matter if I am 2 miles from the railroad or 2000.

 

 

 

Or, if you think about, from India.

 

 

 

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/49/part-241

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Tuesday, September 26, 2017 3:26 PM

n012944
 
Murphy Siding

 

 
n012944
 
Norm48327

 

As I understand it your dispatching center had specific needs to keep things moving in your area; things a dispatcher in J'ville might not have personal knowledge of or a handle on while those in Baltimore knew the ins and outs.

 

 

 

You understand incorrectly.  I can dispatch the B&OCT from anywhere.  It doesn't matter if I am 2 miles from the railroad or 2000.

 

 

 

Or, if you think about, from India.

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/49/part-241

 

I have to say that I'm impressed that someone along the way had seen the possibility of that happening and nipped it in the bud.

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