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News Wire: South Carolina police looking for suspect in CSX freight train derailment

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Posted by Euclid on Saturday, August 26, 2017 7:52 PM

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Here is one with a very large motivation:

http://www.snopes.com/2017/06/09/killdozer-day-marvin-heemeyer/

 

 

Was not this related to the Richard Bachman story "Roadwork"?

 

No, I thought I had included a video in that link, but here is is.  The guy went on a revenge spree because he felt persecuted by a variety of people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zRsmcIaB1Q

 

 

 

 

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Posted by tree68 on Saturday, August 26, 2017 6:33 PM

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Can it be operated by someone with a portable oxygen tank?

Total aside:  Some years ago there was a highway collision involving a tanker with hazmat.  As it was cold, the hazmat wasn't much of a problem, but there was still clean-up to be done.  One DOT worker, who also happened to be a volunteer firefighter, operated his front loader with a regular fire department "air pack" beside him in the cab, as he wore the mask...

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Posted by RME on Saturday, August 26, 2017 6:28 PM

Euclid
Here is one with a very large motivation:

http://www.snopes.com/2017/06/09/killdozer-day-marvin-heemeyer/

Was not this related to the Richard Bachman story "Roadwork"?

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Posted by Euclid on Saturday, August 26, 2017 12:49 PM

Here is one with a very large motivation:

http://www.snopes.com/2017/06/09/killdozer-day-marvin-heemeyer/

 

 

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Saturday, August 26, 2017 11:05 AM

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Someone with access to a bulldozer?  And I wonder what was his/her motivation?

 

In the early 80's there was an incident with a bulldozer in Gillette Wyoming. Some fool came home from the bar in the wee hours and saw a bulldozer in front of his apartment building, so he took it for a ride. He crushed cars, smacked into buildings, tore up pavement and chased police around for quite some time.  He did an incredible amount of damage. Of course the next morning when he woke up in jail he said he didn’t remember a thing.

       Sometimes things like this really don't have any motivation behind them.

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Posted by greyhounds on Saturday, August 26, 2017 12:46 AM

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Someone with access to a bulldozer? And I wonder what was his/her motivation?

OK, true story then some speculation.

I was a brand new US Army 2nd lieutenant fresh out of Transportation Officer Basic when I was assigned to a troop unit at Ft. Eustis.  I properly reported to the company commander and told him I'd been assigned to his unit.  The first words out of his mouth were:  "Well I'll Be Damned."  The words "Oh ***" came to my mind.

One of the first assignments he gave me was to go find a bulldozer.  He was signed for a D7 but had no idea where it was.  I had been trained for many things, but locating a missing D7 bulldozer wasn't one of them.  With the help of an old head NCO the dozer was located.  (As further info one of my next assigments was to get one of our troops out of civilian jail.  Again, the Army had neglected to train me for this.  I asked what the soldier had been arrested for and was told he had a gun and was headed to kill his wife.  All I had to control him was that little gold bar. Just another day in the life of a 2nd lieutenant.) 

Anyway, my speculation is that someone was either trying to steal the dozer fouling the CSX track or taking it for a joy ride.  When they got to the track they couldn't get the machine across due to inadequate operating skills.  They left it where it was.   Just my guess.

 

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Posted by rrnut282 on Friday, August 25, 2017 11:15 AM

Joyrides happen.  I was on a project constructing a connecting track between two mainline.  During the long 4th of July weekend, someone walked back in 3/4 of a mile and drove a dozer and roller around.  Fortunately, they got stuck in the creek before reaching the tracks.  After that, the contractor removed battery terminals when leaving the site. 

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Posted by samfp1943 on Friday, August 25, 2017 10:45 AM

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Can it be operated by someone with a portable oxygen tank?

 

  Possibly, but only if the individual can run for a ways, with that O2 cylinder at 'high port', from the scene. Mischief     

       The 'dozer will be a different story.Huh?

 

 


 

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Posted by Euclid on Friday, August 25, 2017 6:59 AM

The story seems to be missing a few signficant points.  Where the dozer came from can't be a mystery. 

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Posted by rdamon on Friday, August 25, 2017 6:33 AM

The dozer looks like the ones commonly seen in logging operations.

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Posted by caldreamer on Thursday, August 24, 2017 8:48 PM

This makes my blood boil.  Why someone would want to intentonatly derail a train and possibly cause a major catastropy I cannot fathom.  IF I EVER CAUGHT UP TO SOMEONE WHO DID SOMETHNG LIKE THIS HE WOULD BE SINGING HI SOPRANO PERMENENTLY.

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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, August 24, 2017 12:25 PM

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Anyone know more about the dozer itself?

If it's the one in the images on this site, it's a smaller one.

http://www.wltx.com/news/local/cargo-train-derails-in-lugoff-no-injuries-reported/462139754

As already noted, access to such a machine isn't difficult.  Even if there is a key, it's probably hidden on the sun visor, if you get what I mean.  Current satellite images don't necessarily show any construction nearby, but that's not to say those images are current.

What's interesting is that they haven't said anything in the media reports about who it may have belonged to, and whether it was reported stolen.

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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, August 24, 2017 12:18 PM

Can it be operated by someone with a portable oxygen tank?

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Posted by ruderunner on Thursday, August 24, 2017 11:37 AM

acessing a dozer isn't hard at all. Getting it to the accident site is much more difficult. Unless someone stole a MOW unit or it's was from a nearby construction site.

 

Depending upon size, it may have needed professional transport possibly including permits.  Anyone know more about the dozer itself?

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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, August 24, 2017 10:17 AM

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Someone with access to a bulldozer?  And I wonder what was his/her motivation?

I tried pennies, quarters, and rocks, and none of them worked.  Let's see how a bulldozer works....

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Posted by schlimm on Thursday, August 24, 2017 9:39 AM

Someone with access to a bulldozer?  And I wonder what was his/her motivation?

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Posted by Brian Schmidt on Thursday, August 24, 2017 9:20 AM

LUGOFF, S.C. — Kershaw County Sheriff's deputies are looking for a suspect in a CSX Transportation derailment near Lugoff, S.C., earlier this month. According to a law enforcement investigation, a bulldozer was intentionally placed along a CSX ...

http://trn.trains.com/news/news-wire/2017/08/24-south-carolina-police-looking-for-suspect-in-csx-freight-train-derailment

Brian Schmidt, Editor, Classic Trains magazine

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