Murphy SidingRead? What a concept. Last week we were walking through a busy restaurant. There was a kid about 10 years old with his family that had his head down in cellphone zone-out position. As we got closer, I could see he was reading a book! Yee-gads!
It's a more common event than some think, often using tablets and e-readers.
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Norm48327 tree68 The various lakes in the central Adirondacks provided ice not only for local use, but for use by the NY Central for icing reefers. When I tell folks on the trains that tidbit, it's usually a "I'd never thought of that before" reaction. Larry, Why is it that people aren't aware that the amenities of today weren't available to the generations before us? I would hazard a guess they didn't read their history books.
tree68 The various lakes in the central Adirondacks provided ice not only for local use, but for use by the NY Central for icing reefers. When I tell folks on the trains that tidbit, it's usually a "I'd never thought of that before" reaction.
Larry,
Why is it that people aren't aware that the amenities of today weren't available to the generations before us? I would hazard a guess they didn't read their history books.
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CMStPnP ... Second, my memories of ICE and the Railroad were excursions on those really old Bluewater Michigan Chapter Cars that had a Block Ice rack underneath and blew in outside air over the ice for A/C. Wonder if that was a Bluewater invention or if the railroad cars they picked up always did that back in the day. ...
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Second, my memories of ICE and the Railroad were excursions on those really old Bluewater Michigan Chapter Cars that had a Block Ice rack underneath and blew in outside air over the ice for A/C. Wonder if that was a Bluewater invention or if the railroad cars they picked up always did that back in the day. ...
I traveled on a few Michigan fan trips, some of which were Bluewater. On one trip (can't remember if it was specifically Bluewater) they air conditioned the car with a compressor off a refrigerator truck fed by a diesel tank.
GrampSo you really couldn't get to Hell on a handcar?
Not directly. There would be a bit of a hike involved. GTW ran through Pinkney, a few miles north.
Hell: N 42 26' 5" W 83 59' 5"
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First side note before I get started: Railroad Tie Tongs and Ice Block Tongs look awefully similar, so much that I wonder if they were one in the same.
Second, my memories of ICE and the Railroad were excursions on those really old Bluewater Michigan Chapter Cars that had a Block Ice rack underneath and blew in outside air over the ice for A/C. Wonder if that was a Bluewater invention or if the railroad cars they picked up always did that back in the day. The system worked well but the problem was the cars had to keep rolling at a specific speed or they would not blow air over the ice and it would get very hot inside the car........same deal if the train was very, very late and the ICE melted (which also happened on the trip I was on).
MidlandMike There was a Hell, Mich. which was just off the GTW.
There was a Hell, Mich. which was just off the GTW.
So you really couldn't get to Hell on a handcar?
tree68 Norm48327 Why is it that people aren't aware that the amenities of today weren't available to the generations before us? I would hazard a guess they didn't read their history books. I would opine that things like icing reefers probably isn't found in most history books. Even things like the ice man, delivering a block of ice to place in a home's icebox, don't get the exposure. I suspect the White Lake ice house I mentioned existed as long as it did because it took electricity a while to reach such areas. This might also be indicative of the fact that many people have no idea where their food comes from. I often tell people about the "salad shooter" and the great possibility that the salad they have with supper tonight may have travelled on that train. Thus, they have no idea that said service predates mechanical reefers, therefore requiring cars to be iced at regular intervals. In defense of that shortcoming, there's a lot of history to be taught - at some point things start to drop off the list...
Norm48327 Why is it that people aren't aware that the amenities of today weren't available to the generations before us? I would hazard a guess they didn't read their history books.
I would opine that things like icing reefers probably isn't found in most history books. Even things like the ice man, delivering a block of ice to place in a home's icebox, don't get the exposure. I suspect the White Lake ice house I mentioned existed as long as it did because it took electricity a while to reach such areas.
This might also be indicative of the fact that many people have no idea where their food comes from. I often tell people about the "salad shooter" and the great possibility that the salad they have with supper tonight may have travelled on that train. Thus, they have no idea that said service predates mechanical reefers, therefore requiring cars to be iced at regular intervals.
In defense of that shortcoming, there's a lot of history to be taught - at some point things start to drop off the list...
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Norm48327Why is it that people aren't aware that the amenities of today weren't available to the generations before us? I would hazard a guess they didn't read their history books.
tree68The various lakes in the central Adirondacks provided ice not only for local use, but for use by the NY Central for icing reefers. When I tell folks on the trains that tidbit, it's usually a "I'd never thought of that before" reaction.
Norm
CMStPnP I think everyone missed the point of the article which was more the ICE HARVESTING then the name of the station.
I think everyone missed the point of the article which was more the ICE HARVESTING then the name of the station.
We can go there, too.
I think ice is a little heralded commodity - many thousands of tons of it were hauled by the railroads in the days before mechanical refrigeration came to be.
The various lakes in the central Adirondacks provided ice not only for local use, but for use by the NY Central for icing reefers. When I tell folks on the trains that tidbit, it's usually a "I'd never thought of that before" reaction.
Many areas still do ice cutting each winter, more as a show than anything else.
It wasn't a rail facility, but the ice house in White Lake, NY burned at one point, leading to local lore about the huge pile of ice that took a long time to finally melt.
The East End of CSX's Cumberland Terminal is in Mexico.
MidlandMike There is a Paradise, Mich., but unless there was a logging RR, you couldn't get there by train. There was a Hell, Mich. which was just off the GTW.
There is a Paradise, Mich., but unless there was a logging RR, you couldn't get there by train. There was a Hell, Mich. which was just off the GTW.
You beat me to it. As I recall, there was a news item when it became possible to direct dial from Hell to Paradise...
At one time, you could take a train from Carthage (NY) to Copenhagen (NY). The village of Copenhagen is located in the township of Denmark...
You could travel to Mexico (NY) by rail at one time, too...
B&O on it's P&W Subdivision went to Mars.
Remeber as a kid (1953-54ish), attending a Pittsburgh Division picnic that was held at a facility at Mars that was adjacent to the tracks - A Westbound coal train was climbing Bakerstown grade - 1 mallet on the head end and 2 mallets on the rear end shoving - cinders fell from the sky for 10 minutes after the train's passing.
My favourite such destination is Hell, just north of Trondheim in Norway.
I could have visited it but didn't realise how close it was when I was in Trondheim.
Postcards are sold for English speaking visitors of the freight forwarding shed at Hell station, preferably under snow in winter.
The signs on the shed read "Hell" and "Gods Expedition"....
Peter
You could go to Denmark, S.C. on three roads--ACL, SOU, and SAL. You can still get there by Amtrak.
Johnny
mudchicken Lets see.... Moscow,KS; Siberia,CA; Bagdad,CA; Paris, TX; Nowhere & No Name, CO; North Pole, CO, Earth, TX, Cairo, IL ... worked or visited in all those places. (and two placenames that the software is pre-disposed to sensor)
Lets see.... Moscow,KS; Siberia,CA; Bagdad,CA; Paris, TX; Nowhere & No Name, CO; North Pole, CO, Earth, TX, Cairo, IL ... worked or visited in all those places. (and two placenames that the software is pre-disposed to sensor)
There is a Paris, AR also; went there a number of times.
There is also a Two Egg, FL.
The towns of Wewahumpka and Coleman are near each other in Central FL. Federal Bureau of Prisons built a prison complex between the two, but nearer Wewahumpka. They chose to call it FCC (Federal Correctional Complex) Coleman; guess FCC Wewahumpka just didn't have the right "ring" to it.
Maine central ran through China and St. lawrence and atlantic runs through Paris and Norway.
SALfan On the Strasburg RR, you can take a train from Intercourse to Paradise. Kind of a short trip, but fun.
On the Strasburg RR, you can take a train from Intercourse to Paradise. Kind of a short trip, but fun.
The FEC could have taken you to Jupiter, Florida.
mudchicken (and two placenames that the software is pre-disposed to sensor)
(and two placenames that the software is pre-disposed to sensor)
Are any of them on here?
http://www.estately.com/blog/2016/09/the-complete-list-of-lewd-sounding-town-names-in-america/
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You may no longer take a train to Gravity, Iowa. You can fly there, if you have a helicopter.
What's the big deal? You can take Metra to Mars or Metro North to Vahalla.
Interesting reading I grew up near there and never heard of this station or the one mile long spur as a kid. Allegedly some of the rail is still in place.
http://www.dupyrail.com/alaska.html
http://www.dupyrail.com/pewaukee.html
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