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News Wire: Forbes names CSX one of 'America’s Best Employers'

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Posted by bobyar2001 on Monday, June 12, 2017 9:47 PM

This reminds me of when Railtex took over our Central Vermont Railway and won Short Line of the Year, scarcely a month later.  The award was for finally beating our employees' 15-month fight against them and the 10901 exclusion in the ICC and courts.  It had nothing to do with running a railroad and everything to do with squashing labor.

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Posted by jeffhergert on Saturday, June 3, 2017 1:46 PM

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These brags about companies saying they are great to work for remind me so much of the TCA and ATA one's they put out. Guess who wins in large truckload carrier over 1000 trucks your going to laugh at this Swift and for refrigerated carriers England. We in the industry say Swift stands for Swing What I F'ed Up Today and England means Every New Guy Leaves After Ninety Days. 

 

Yet carriers with under 20 percent turnover aren't even looked at. Why getting a job for us well it takes either a retirement or a driver termination. Yet we never get surveys on how our drivers feel. Why because the big boys would be screwed. 

 

This particular Forbes survey may not reflect whaat the average employee feels.  It's IMO, more of a top down look based on selected items (most likely cherry-picked to benefit the employer) the company offers to it's employees.  And then probably those employees above a certain level.

There are also "best employers/places to work for" lists floating out there that reflect actual employee views.  How they really feel towards their employer and if they would encourage people to work there.  A quick perusal of a few lists, usually only top 50 or 100, that I looked at didn't have CSX (or any other railroads) listed.

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Posted by Norm48327 on Saturday, June 3, 2017 7:32 AM

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Yet carriers with under 20 percent turnover aren't even looked at. Why getting a job for us well it takes either a retirement or a driver termination. Yet we never get surveys on how our drivers feel. Why because the big boys would be screwed.

Perhaps you are "Luckey" you don't get those surveys. Wink

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Posted by Shadow the Cats owner on Friday, June 2, 2017 9:34 PM

These brags about companies saying they are great to work for remind me so much of the TCA and ATA one's they put out. Guess who wins in large truckload carrier over 1000 trucks your going to laugh at this Swift and for refrigerated carriers England. We in the industry say Swift stands for Swing What I F'ed Up Today and England means Every New Guy Leaves After Ninety Days. 

 

Yet carriers with under 20 percent turnover aren't even looked at. Why getting a job for us well it takes either a retirement or a driver termination. Yet we never get surveys on how our drivers feel. Why because the big boys would be screwed. 

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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Friday, June 2, 2017 8:36 PM

Mischief This study should be this year's nominee for the "Dewey Beats Truman" award . . . Whistling 

As comedienne Paula Poundstone likes to say: "Who does these studies ?!?"

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Friday, June 2, 2017 5:56 PM

   The article said they interviewed 30,000 employees at 18,000 companies. That averages out to about 17 per company. It would seem like the margin of error could be pretty big. How do they determine which 17 out of the 36,005 employees at CSX to sample?

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Friday, June 2, 2017 5:51 PM

Ulrich

These distinctions often have little or no meaning, although CSX may very well be an excellent employer of choice. In Canada we have companies vying for "the 50 Best Managed Companies" distinction. The funny thing is that the vast majority of companies in Canada are never surveyed or tested, so "50 best" only really applies to those companies who've put themselves forward for testing. It would be like me saying that I'm one of the 50 fastest runners in Canada.. because I can outrun 50 fat guys who came out to the track on Saturday while the real running aficionados go unnoticed because they weren't invited to participate.  

 

Wouldn't you only have to beat 49 fat guys to make the cut? I'm just asking on behalf of our demographic group. If we have to cut one guy from our team and I don't have to run I'm OK with that.Geeked

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Posted by tree68 on Friday, June 2, 2017 5:34 PM

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...are never surveyed or tested...

Just watched a YouTube video entitled "best fire truck responses of 2016."  Most appeared to have been shot within 25 miles of the submitter's home - a truly limited sample.  A few were rather lame besides...

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Posted by jeffhergert on Friday, June 2, 2017 5:08 PM

If this is the list, 

https://www.forbes.com/best-employers/list/6/#tab:rank

Norfolk Southern (86) and Amtrak (200) rated higher.  (So did Rockwell Collins (133). Smile, Wink & Grin) However, they did do better than UP (371) and BNSF (386).

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Posted by Ulrich on Friday, June 2, 2017 4:22 PM

These distinctions often have little or no meaning, although CSX may very well be an excellent employer of choice. In Canada we have companies vying for "the 50 Best Managed Companies" distinction. The funny thing is that the vast majority of companies in Canada are never surveyed or tested, so "50 best" only really applies to those companies who've put themselves forward for testing. It would be like me saying that I'm one of the 50 fastest runners in Canada.. because I can outrun 50 fat guys who came out to the track on Saturday while the real running aficionados go unnoticed because they weren't invited to participate.  

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Posted by samfp1943 on Friday, June 2, 2017 3:36 PM

tree68

Given recent events, I would question the time period during which the survey was conducted...  A study like this doesn't happen overnight.

 

I think you are Spot ON! Larry (tree68) .. First, I would question the sample size (too small(?). Then, extrapolation of that sample size gives a lot of room for the Sampler to make assumptions based on their own bias.*

*{ie: systematic error introduced into sampling or testing by selecting or encouraging one outcome or answer over others..}

Or more cynically; Follow the Money...He who pays for the statistical poll, gets the results they were looking [paying] for. Sigh

Good examples of that are the errors in the recent presidential political poling. My 2 Cents

 

 


 

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Posted by BaltACD on Friday, June 2, 2017 3:34 PM

Notice has been given that CSX Dispatchers are being recentralized in Jacksonville.

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Posted by tree68 on Friday, June 2, 2017 12:10 PM

Given recent events, I would question the time period during which the survey was conducted...  A study like this doesn't happen overnight.

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Posted by BaltACD on Friday, June 2, 2017 12:06 PM

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Based on what metrics?

Interview with EHH.

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Posted by CandOforprogress2 on Thursday, June 1, 2017 6:06 PM

Based on what metrics?

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Posted by Brian Schmidt on Thursday, June 1, 2017 12:30 PM

JACKSONVILLE — For the third year in a row, CSX Transportation was named one of America’s best employers by Forbes Magazine. Forbes Media, in partnership with research firm Statista, interviewed 30,000 workers at 1,800 U.S. companies in...

http://trn.trains.com/news/news-wire/2017/06/01-csx-best-employer

Brian Schmidt, Editor, Classic Trains magazine

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