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Iced Reffers
Posted by Northtowne on Sunday, April 23, 2017 6:24 PM

I rode an ATSF freight, mostly reefers (but I found an empty box), east, CA to TX in summer 1953 (I was 17yrs old). I watched them load large cubes of ice thru the top at the ends of the reffers. They worked off a wide catwalk that was about level with top of the cars. What I am asking is, did these cars have mechanical blowers to circulate the cold air? I don't remember anything on the outside that looked like grilles, shafts, etc.

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Posted by BaltACD on Sunday, April 23, 2017 6:57 PM

For the most part - basic physics.  Hot air rises, cold air falls.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, April 23, 2017 7:27 PM

A lot of the ice-bunker reefers had circulating fans to aid the normal flow of things.  They were operated by a drive connected to an axle (rubber Question wheel against the tread of a flanged wheel) that could be put down or lifted off.  There was a little circle toward the bottom of the side that showed the end of the fan shaft; you could easily tell if it was spinning.

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Posted by wanswheel on Sunday, April 23, 2017 9:19 PM
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Posted by samfp1943 on Sunday, April 23, 2017 9:42 PM

Here is a link to a previous discussion of railroad reefers, and railroad reefer car icing facilities from 2011.. Mike (wanswheel) has a couple of interesting links he contributed to that Thread as well !   Link @ http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/p/188454/2059423.aspxhttp://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/p/188454/2059423.aspx

THe Illinois Central RR played a major role in transporting perishable fruit to many places in the upper midwest and other regions as well. IC's Passenger trains hauled fresh strawberries in their baggage cars out of Louisiana. The railroad had a major car icing facility at Fulton, Kentucky; it was the junction of the IC's 'Eastern-most' Main line, and its' 'Western-most' main Lines. In fact Fulton at one time proudly called itself the 'Banana Capital of the US' !

 

 


 

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, April 24, 2017 12:01 AM

The New York Central cut thousands of tons of ice from Adirondack lakes, all bound for use in reefers around the system.  It was one of the larger commodities shipped out of the Adirondacks.

It does make me wonder, though...  Would the melt from such ice, since it was dripping far from it's point of origin, be considered a bad thing today?

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Posted by DSchmitt on Monday, April 24, 2017 12:19 AM

According to this blog http://modelingthesp.blogspot.com/2013/07/modeling-open-ice-hatches-on.html  

Ventilation service:  Ice reefers run with Ice Hatches open when cooling by outside air was considered sufficient to for the perishable casrgo.  No ice.

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Posted by Northtowne on Monday, April 24, 2017 5:14 PM

I couldn't get the link to transfer.   Northtowne

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Posted by BaltACD on Monday, April 24, 2017 5:37 PM

DSchmitt
According to this blog http://modelingthesp.blogspot.com/2013/07/modeling-open-ice-hatches-on.html  

Ventilation service:  Ice reefers run with Ice Hatches open when cooling by outside air was considered sufficient to for the perishable casrgo.  No ice.

The need for refrigeration or ventilation depends upon the requirements of the commodity that is being shipped.

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